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Apple Addresses 'Bendgate' By Strengthening Weak Points of 'iPhone 6s' Shell
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Not one person here can quote a statistic that demonstrates the absence of a bending problem. That's because the statistics aren't publicly known. The "non-issue" position is untenable.
To be fair, I think phones nowadays are a lot more future-proof than they were still five or six years ago.
A company makes improvements to their products. Wow, what a revelation!
But there was nothing wrong so why did it need to be strengthened?
So the 6S will be thicker than the 6?
Wonder how Jony's coping.
Probably in Primal Scream Therapy right now...
Wonder how Jony's coping.
Probably in Primal Scream Therapy right now...
The existence of weak points does not imply a lack of structural soundness. Every single structure has a weak point somewhere. I don't think anyone denied that the 6 enclosure had a weak point somewhere. What people denied was whether that weak point was weak enough to cause alarm and hysteria affecting every single owner.
Strengthening a structures weak point also does not imply an admittance to a major flaw in the original structure. It simply means, they found a way to strengthen the weak point, and naturally would want to improve and iterate. If there was a major lack of structural rigidity to the enclosure, it wouldn't have passed a 3 point bend test. In case you forgot, the Galaxy S6 scored lower on 3 point bend tests done by a third party.
Only irrational and immature people deal in such absolutes like that. Thinking, the existence of weak points therefore means the whole thing is weak. A structure has to have a weak point somewhere, unless you want a solid block for a phone. The iPhone 5s weak point was the join between the top/bottom antenna frames with the mid-chassis. Which Apple strengthened in the iPhone 6 design. Does improving that imply that there was some terrible flaw in the iPhone 5s structural rigidity? You probably never even knew that weak point existed. Because it's a weak point, not a catastrophe waiting to happen.
We're talking about phones here people.
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It seems like Jony has one of the best jobs at Apple. Despite his highly touted skill as a designer the iPhone remains largely unchanged and certainly hasn't had an injection of style ever.
Resembling nothing more than a rectangular slab, flat in front and back it's just like the Nokia "candy bar phones" circa 1998. If that's not old, dull and boring I don't know what is.
Personally I really like the iPhones plain basic shape. I just don't see why Jony is so highly revered. Any experienced designer can do rectangular slabs.
That's like saying "I pay all my bills so why do I need to make more money?"
iPhone 6 here. I am a General Contractor who builds Custom Homes and does Solar. I keep my 6 in my right front pocket all day long and have no issues with the screen, frame or anything else. I do not know anyone with a 6 or a 6+ who have any issues either.
Huh? So I guess that makes the "issue" position tenable?
Making it so would require major "bending" of reality...
There is proof and then there is preponderance of evidence.
This evidence for non issue is :
reflected in the very low amount of Internet whining (past the first **** stirring weeks) compared to 200M Iphone 6 that will be produced in this calendar year.
reflected in third party tests that don't show an issue in normal use.
In those test that show other phones, including this year's S6, performed worse!
The fact that Apple's credibility built over a long time is behind the "non issue" statement
That they have the responsibility of fixing any issue, and it will cost them money to do so if it was major; it is not in their best interest to produce a product with a major problem.
That for Apple there legal and financial ramifications behind their statements, vs some clown on the internet, which can say or do anything without any repercussion.
That the Internet Clown made tens of thousands from their video and the video even shows significant editing.
While not absolute proof, I'd say it's good enough for court.
The evidence for the "issue":
- Clowns of dubious background doing unscientific circus trick for money... Conclusive... (sic)
- A few anecdotes on a few sites... Sampling of Iphone owners is fantastic, we got a winner here (sic).
- Media/blogger ADHD frenzy that faded in 2 weeks... Think they should take pills to stay focused was it just another thing they used to stuff their 24h news cycle?
Yep, that's very ahem convincing...
As for switching to 7000, linked to this "issue". If you consider they've worked on this alloy for the watch and how much work and money it would take to switch manufacturing to the new alloy, I'd say it is more logical that there be no link at all; that the switch is linked to the watch use.
The problem was the people who expect a large glass and plastic phone to not bend in a tight jeans pocket. Their is no problems with the iPhone Plus, just the complainers who like complaining.
I stand by what I said. Plus, this is an online message board. You should take everything with a grain of salt. I don't baby my phone, and I've tried repeated to find slightest hint of bending and mine is still perfectly straight. Just as it's easy to say that my phone isn't bent, it isnt much harder to post a picture of a bent phone and proclaim it bent in their front pocket. Therefore, I'm still going go with the PR reasoning.
After the original media frenzy, bend gate died quick. Funnily enough, I only hear about bend gate again when Lew from unboxtherapy brings it up in a video, which is the one person on the planet who gained the most over the media frenzy and millions of views to his YouTube channel.
The unfortunate thing with Lou, was all the, putting it VERY politely, idiots who bent iPhone 6 Plus's in Apple stores. But you go with the PR reasoning if you wish, we are all different with different opinions. I just find it interesting how they are going to strengthen, well according to this report, the part of the chassis that bent so easily by Lou and others. If their was no problem then why change it and all..
I also have to say someone bending a phone with their bare hands is a lot better test than a machine with a hydraulic ram doing it!
Even when they strengthened the weak points of the previous design, there sure will be weak points in the new strengthened design. No matter how the design is , there are always some points weaker than other points.
Of course it does.
- People have little motivation to lie here. The rare, internet publicity seeking "clown" isn't representative of those with the problem.
- Short-term tests - by definition - are non-comprehensive and lack the proper conditions
- Apple has strong motivation to keep it quiet
- Apple tried hard to engineer against this (self-evident) potential problem, but it still occurs
- Apple has now re-designed the new model to avoid this issue (probably successfully)
- Millions of owners may have this problem (whether they've noticed it or not) and still be happy with their phones
- Apple PR loves the fact that - without them even saying a word - ignorant naysayers like yourself keep propagating the lie that only careless morons have this problem
Yes, your anecdotes are conclusive proof, while Apple makes up stuff.Yup!
Every company is part of a conspiracy or lies 100% of the time,
while your mental constructions are bulletproof.
I'm ignoring you because seriously, you make no sense.
You are the one calling yourself a moron BTW, not me.
I called one guy a clown, because, he was a clown...
Have fun talking to yourself.
Yes, after weeks after MASSIVE WHINING and 10M+ sales. Did you read it yourself?
BTW, if people swim with their watch (despite Apple saying not to do it) and a few go to get it replaced for water damage, does it mean the watch suddenly got a "water problem" too? Seems so by those criteria.
It must to resist to everything...
If I put it in my back pocket and sit or even walking around (depending on the fit of my pants) Then yes that is stupidity and I am responsible for misuse of my device.
But I walk around it my slacks to/at the office and I can't put my phone in my front pocket otherwise I am liable for the defected product that I spent hundreds on? Because placing a phone in your front pocket is not normal use? We are meant to have our phones in our hands at all times?
You spend several hundred dollars for a device that regular use includes being put into your pants pocket. Why is it that the previous iterations that are also made of metal (hell there were models made of plastic, which is more malleable) didn't bend?
I really don't believe that has anything with first world problems, and everything with a poor quality build.