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And why not have english hand writing support as a standard. I find it strange that apple has the technology to do so, nevertheless, they choose to keep their computers one step behind PCs
I don't think English handwriting is really as useful as Asian script recognition, simply because computers have long-since been perfectly suited to our 52 alpha character + 10 numeric character, etc. western system. And, has already been pointed out up-thread, nobody can write as fast as one can type.

Legitimately handicapped persons aside, I'm amazed there's anyone using computers who doesn't know how to type. Geez...
 
Where can we talk about
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ard_apis_as_software_nears_final_stretch.html ?

Sounds like Apple in 10A354
Tweaked Grand Central Dispatch
Made the last "programming-oreinted changes" planned ahead of 10.6's release - "no further API changes planned for Snow Leopard"

Added support in the Language & Text Preference Pane for bidirectional text support - Persian and Hebrew support, or for allowing Chinese symbols both ways - i'd go with Chinese symbols for now.
MPEG-4 High Efficiency AAC codec debuted also - one of the features touted in the Snow Leopard page at Apple.com
 
Is there a reason why this has to be multi-touch trackpads only? Does this exclude MacBook Pro 2007 models and prior?
 
Seriously?

Apple is still seeding developers with 10.5.7??? There has to be something more severe than simple Safari 4.0 Beta issues. No way would Apple be taking so long unless there was something else.
 
Apple is still seeding developers with 10.5.7??? There has to be something more severe than simple Safari 4.0 Beta issues. No way would Apple be taking so long unless there was something else.

For all the talk about the length of time it's taking with 10.5.7 - has anyone heard back from developers about Safari's progress? If it is Safari holding things up - then wouldn't looking at Safari's status be useful? Admittedly Safari is critical for iPhone - it's not just Macs and Windows PCs they have to think about.
 
For all the talk about the length of time it's taking with 10.5.7 - has anyone heard back from developers about Safari's progress? If it is Safari holding things up - then wouldn't looking at Safari's status be useful? Admittedly Safari is critical for iPhone - it's not just Macs and Windows PCs they have to think about.

The only news re: Safari relates to Safari 4.0 Beta not installing on 10.5.7, which seems simply due to the set requirement of 10.5.6 in the installation check (easily fixed). Otherwise, I have heard/read/seen nothing on any forum regarding the progress of Safari 4.0. If the only known issue being reported by Apple is Safari 4.0 Beta, I'm surprised Apple has not simply fixed it and sent both out (assuming Safari 4.0 is to be released with 10.5.7).

This (going on 5 months) time frame for a 10.x.x update seems rather long in comparison to previous updates. There has to be something else under wraps. A few people mentioned the release of a new Mighty Mouse is delaying 10.5.7, but that is simply speculation (although I would mind a new M.M. as the scroll ball is a pain in the arse).

EDIT: I wonder if the rumor mills are true in that 10.5.7 is to be released around WWDC along with a possible new product/iPhone, and Snow Leopard will be released this Fall
 
The only news re: Safari relates to Safari 4.0 Beta not installing on 10.5.7, which seems simply due to the set requirement of 10.5.6 in the installation check (easily fixed). Otherwise, I have heard/read/seen nothing on any forum regarding the progress of Safari 4.0. If the only known issue being reported by Apple is Safari 4.0 Beta, I'm surprised Apple has not simply fixed it and sent both out (assuming Safari 4.0 is to be released with 10.5.7).

This (going on 5 months) time frame for a 10.x.x update seems rather long in comparison to previous updates. There has to be something else under wraps. A few people mentioned the release of a new Mighty Mouse is delaying 10.5.7, but that is simply speculation (although I would mind a new M.M. as the scroll ball is a pain in the arse).

EDIT: I wonder if the rumor mills are true in that 10.5.7 is to be released around WWDC along with a possible new product/iPhone, and Snow Leopard will be released this Fall

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Apple?!

Pushing an OS update forward due to a new mouse being released... /facepalm
 
I want Japanese. :mad:

I guess it would be helpful for when you know how a kanji looks but don't know how to say it.

Aside from that romaji input is a billion times faster than "handwriting" it. Like... Kinyoubi takes about 1 second to type, but try 金曜日.. that's 30 strokes, very TINY strokes. Be happy Japanese sounds translate easily to english letters!
 
I want Japanese. :mad:

I guess it would be helpful for when you know how a kanji looks but don't know how to say it.

Aside from that romaji input is a billion times faster than "handwriting" it. Like... Kinyoubi takes about 1 second to type, but try 金曜日.. that's 30 strokes, very TINY strokes. Be happy Japanese sounds translate easily to english letters!

I was thinking the same thing. I would love to be able to draw characters in and find the meaning and pronounciations, but right now it only works for Japanese kanji that are also Chinese (I know, most are and it works on my iPod for those, but not all Japanese kanji are in the Chinese kanji dictionary).

It's still much faster to type Japanese than handwrite it though, no doubt about it.

It is technologically cool, but would it really be faster to draw on the touchpad than to type? Maybe for old people who don't like keyboards?

I've seen Japanese keyboards that have various pen strokes on the keys that they combine to get a character. Also, they can type Japanese using an English keyboard by approximating the sound.

I've tried both, and coming as a native English speaker it's easier to use the Qwerty layout and just type the characters in phonetically, but then I don't know a lot of Japanese. I can see times when the reverse might be true, and it might be nice to have both options available at any given time (type until you reach a character you'd rather draw, and just move slightly down to the trackpad to draw it in).

jW
 
The only news re: Safari relates to Safari 4.0 Beta not installing on 10.5.7, which seems simply due to the set requirement of 10.5.6 in the installation check (easily fixed). Otherwise, I have heard/read/seen nothing on any forum regarding the progress of Safari 4.0. If the only known issue being reported by Apple is Safari 4.0 Beta, I'm surprised Apple has not simply fixed it and sent both out (assuming Safari 4.0 is to be released with 10.5.7).

This (going on 5 months) time frame for a 10.x.x update seems rather long in comparison to previous updates. There has to be something else under wraps. A few people mentioned the release of a new Mighty Mouse is delaying 10.5.7, but that is simply speculation (although I would mind a new M.M. as the scroll ball is a pain in the arse).

EDIT: I wonder if the rumor mills are true in that 10.5.7 is to be released around WWDC along with a possible new product/iPhone, and Snow Leopard will be released this Fall

Any word on the MM thing? Never heard about that so far...
Taking their time. As they should do. As long as 10.5.7 was done before WWDC - which it is, they have time to debug it (10.5.7.1 anyone?) and then get on that dev version of 10.6 for WWDC.

Why a touchpad can't be an acessory we shall find out ;)
I can't see why a bonjoured iPhone/Touch can't become one, tres soon (its already done through apps)
 
What about Desktop Computers?

I have a mac mini and would like to use the handwriting feature with my mouse. Is this possible?
 
It is technologically cool, but would it really be faster to draw on the touchpad than to type? Maybe for old people who don't like keyboards?

I've seen Japanese keyboards that have various pen strokes on the keys that they combine to get a character. Also, they can type Japanese using an English keyboard by approximating the sound.

I don't understand how its even possible with as many characters as there are. Wouldn't you have to memorize quite a few different keyboard layouts?
 
Input methods

There are many input methods for Chinese characters using the keyboard. The one that is most widely used is the WuBi method. They essentially give the first three strokes that are used in the character and if needed a fourth can be added which is the last stroke.

The Pinyin method is a phonetic approximation of the sound of the character which brings up a huge list of characters that need to be sorted through to find the correct character.

WuBi is extremely fast. Just think if all english words were 4 characters or less, there are however some "words" that are multiple characters. I know people here in China that type in excess of 160 words per minute.

The interesting thing is that I find the track pad writing extremely useless because I have difficulty keeping my strokes positioned in the same place on the trackpad.
 
There are many input methods for Chinese characters using the keyboard. The one that is most widely used is the WuBi method. They essentially give the first three strokes that are used in the character and if needed a fourth can be added which is the last stroke.

The Pinyin method is a phonetic approximation of the sound of the character which brings up a huge list of characters that need to be sorted through to find the correct character.

WuBi is extremely fast. Just think if all english words were 4 characters or less, there are however some "words" that are multiple characters. I know people here in China that type in excess of 160 words per minute.

The interesting thing is that I find the track pad writing extremely useless because I have difficulty keeping my strokes positioned in the same place on the trackpad.

Only problem with WuBi is if you don't have a Chinese keyboard, it doesn't work. I have a bluetooth keyboard from Taiwan, but I'm more used to pinyin/bopomofo anyway. But the writing works fine for me, too. I actually like it more because it's faster when I know the actual character.
 
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