So now your advocating deliberate discriminatory hiring practices. Nice.
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she. Is. Not. A. New. Hire.
Beats is run by majority white men.
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So now your advocating deliberate discriminatory hiring practices. Nice.
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she. Is. Not. A. New. Hire.
Beats is run by majority white men.
Nah this is Tim Cook's Apple now. Just took him a while to put his stamp on the company. Wonder how he feels though about Jony Ive spending $17M on a house in the most exclusive, WASP-y neighborhood in San Francisco. Not much diversity there I'll bet.
Nope. 1) There are definitely nefarious forces running Apple now - ones which Steve Jobs managed to keep at bay (I've always wondered how), 2) Ive's house in Pacific Heights or wherever was a golden cage and a publicity stunt to get people to believe he's still living in California full time and working at Apple full time which I doubt.
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No, let's try to be logical here, you are advocating discriminatory hiring practices against White males. Beats is run by a majority of White men - of a sort. Dr Dre has never been anything more to Beats than a licensed token.
Diversity ≠ "Diversity for the sake of numbers"
When people say ********* like this they are implying women and people of colour are not qualified. Do you think Apple is going to jeopardize their future by hiring unqualified people, especially at this level?
So was Steve Jobs. Oops.
I guess I ultimately did fall into your flame trap. 10/10 Good job.
No, but why is it so now?
I don't think anybody is forcing more men and less women to be part of the tech industry.
Btw, Denise Young Smith has been VP of human resources for at lest a year. At most companies the leader of HR is an executive officer level position and this person is listed on the company's executive leadership page. So it makes complete sense she'd be on Apple's leadership page.
Basically because they said " we are unhappy and we want more diversity" and then a couple of days later there is a page of vice whatever with 3 males, 2 females and 1 of them is black. In other words, they are trying too hard to show us they are diverse. Yeah, like anybody cares ....
The problem about being diverse for the sake of it does't mean they'll hire some schmuck just because he's black. He might be qualified, but there might be someone SUPERqualified, but they need that diversity report to be equal so it worries people that apple might hire somebody who's qualified, only not the BEST just for that stupidass report.
It's kinda an inverted racism. Like.. we don't want to be racists so we will discriminate against whites and hire more black just to show you we love blacks too.
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So was Steve Jobs. Oops.
I guess I ultimately did fall into your flame trap. 10/10 Good job.
Actually you illustrated the perfect point for this thread: Steve Jobs made Apple through a lifetime of hard work and daring ingenuity - not to mention admirable perseverance and dogged determination. He did this without any Affirmative Action or entitlement, despite the fact that he was adopted and half-Arab.
Just because someone is qualified doesn't mean they are the best. Would you want the doctor transplanting your heart that graduated med school dead last? Because surely they are "qualified". No you want the best person.
That's the entire point. How did this even become about race? Mums even claimed that she's a Token. Wow. I usually don't get offended by posts, but if that isn't blatant racism I don't know what is.
She's not a new hire by any means. You guys obviously care about her race since you are so focused on Denise in particular.
I don't know, I've seen equal amounts. Maybe some data can prove my anecdotal evidence wrong.
Yeah right - especially in conjunction with the recent Beats acquisition and Cook's new policy on Affirmative Action. It's ironic that she should be the head of "Human Resources" - the most heinous part of the company.
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Well, i wrote about "showing off". They said a couple of days earlier they want more diversity and now they created this page. It's just silly. If she isn't a new hire, good for her. But they are using her image for other means, and it surely not for showing her their gratitude.
I work in the tech industry and I hire the tech people that work in the industry. What is clear to me (and more than just my opinion) is that for engineering jobs (hardware or software), the majority of applicants are male. However, the majority of those males have not been white.
The numbers have shifted over the years but the majority currently are either Indian or Pakistanis that seem to be coming in. I cannot speak to other areas such a finance or HR. In the engineering world, I have had several data architects and DBAs as women (only one of them white). In the SA and BA realm I do see more women applying. However, in the Operations, Hardware, and even Software Development area, it has been mostly male and currently mostly non-white.
In twenty plus years, I have hired a grand total of 2 black (2 additional were inherited when I came into a position), and a total of 2 Hispanics (myself excluded). The majority of what I have hired has been Indian and Pakistani. I would say that 30-40% has been white.
These have all been lower level jobs up through line managers. What is interesting is that since the majority is non-white at the lower level, why is it that bleach is applied the higher up the chain you go?
I think that by far the number one criteria are that the candidate must be qualified to do the job; second is team fit. Especially in down economic times you can get a room full of people that fit both criteria, so this is when diversity should and must come in. If I am building a team and I have the option to have my pick, I want diversity of experience and opinion. Experience and all studies show that this produces the best quality work.
Now someone please promote this Cuban boy to VP at Apple (oh wait I think Eddie has that slot, darn it!)
This kind of reeks. So they used to list only executive VPs, now they're adding regular VPs and they added 5 to the page. Are the only 5 VP positions at Apple? Seems to me they cherry-picked a few VPs to show a female and a black female.
If there's only 5 VP positions in the company then I stand corrected.
If there's only 5 VP positions in the company then I stand corrected.
The point is is that MR posters assume she is a Token HIRE! Stop playing ignorant please.
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The point is, i'm not "MR posters". I'm I. I say what i think. I'm not being ignorant. Diversity is a beautiful thing. But it has to be natural and with no strings attached. I said all i wanted to say, have a nice day.
Too bad. The company needed to raise the diversity percentages!
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By the way, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Apple went out of it's way to find this Black woman.
Are you talking about the black woman who's been working for Apple since 2000?
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I assume you've never had the responsibility for hiring someone to work for you.
Only a fool picks a job candidate because that person is a color or sex that the boss is comfortable with.
Successful bosses pick the best person for a job because that person will make the boss look good.
Too late to show facts now. His post was on front page. Thus no one will make the effort to read and educate themselves, and his comment will continue to get upvotes from people desperately trying to prove there is a direct assault on white male jobs.