In general, though, it feels like my iPhone and iPad are slowing becoming less of my device and this is just another example of that.
If this were on your iPhone/iPad's home screen (vs. the home screen of a service's app), then I could see that.
In general, though, it feels like my iPhone and iPad are slowing becoming less of my device and this is just another example of that.
Citation required.
Build yourself a large Plex library.Ok, how do we get away from this? What company isn't doing it?
My concern is if Apple are going down this road and letting us see it what is Tim Crook doing behind our backs ?
Hmm, I'd like to think if Steve was still in charge, they'd kick him off from being CEO on account of not making the shareholders more money.Once again Apple is becoming the very thing Steve Jobs worked so hard to destroy.
This is squarely in the "make shareholders, bean counters, and sociopaths happy" camp and not "make users happy"
That's a strong possibility though I'd like to think if Steve were still in charge there would beHmm, I'd like to think if Steve was still in charge, they'd kick him off from being CEO on account of not making the shareholders more money.
Your question is "when did Apple ever promise or even imply that?""Think Different" is in reference to how they design their products and operating systems. Obviously Apple has always done a lot of things business-wise the same as the competition and even many things about the products and software are not all different. Apple TV+ and the App Store are services (albeit one paid and one free), and I really don't understand why people are so up in arms about a few ads on the home page of these apps. Just scroll away! It's really not that complicated. But I guess if you and others were Apple users because you were under the false impression that you would never seen ad on an Apple service, then I can understand your disappointment. But when did Apple ever promise or even imply that?
I presume there’ll be an opt out , charged extra of course
Like YouTube premium etc
Hopefully
Your question is "when did Apple ever promise or even imply that?"
Take a look at the article that was just published: https://www.macworld.com/article/1374547/apple-google-advertising-revenue-image.html
It should start giving you a history of the sense of how a large part of Apple users have regarded Apple and its relationship to ads and the internet.
It is an opinion piece. It begins to give you an idea of how Apple has been understood. You could certainly do historical archival work to analyze how Apple has both positioned itself over the years and also how the American public has understood Apple's various stances as the internet grew. Think back to how it talks about ads and privacy; you can do the research.That's just an opinion piece of one individual. That doesn't answer my question, since he doesn't speak for Apple any more than you or I do.
It is an opinion piece. It begins to give you an idea of how Apple has been understood. You could certainly do historical archival work to analyze how Apple has both positioned itself over the years and also how the American public has understood Apple's various stances as the internet grew. Think back to how it talks about ads and privacy; you can do the research.
Dude.Well it's obvious that many here have "understood" Apple to be this way or that, but I'm not seeing it backed up by sources. "Do your own research" is a cop-out for failure to provide sources. If you're making a positive claim about a company's stance, then the onus is on you to do your research to back that claim up.
For example, when Apple announced the CSAM scanning for iCloud Photos, it quickly became clear that many here totally did not understand Apple's stance on privacy. They were posting pictures of "What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone" banners, apparently failing to realize that iCloud photos are photos you've moved from your iPhone onto Apple's servers, and those have always been accessible by Apple per the iCloud terms and conditions. So that's just an example of just because people (even many people) "understand" something to be so doesn't make it so.
Dude.
There’s enough out there to show how this increasing ad focus by Apple is contrary to how people external AND internal to Apple understands the company.
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Apple's $4B ad business at odds with internal culture and values | AppleInsider
Apple has big plans to expand its home-grown advertising business. However, it could be a struggle both in dealing with a privacy-focused public image and from its own engineers.appleinsider.com
What are you talking about? We're talking about ads. While ads can be related to privacy, I think we weren't really gonig that route. We're talking about ads, whether they are targeted or not.More opinion pieces and heresay. But, hey, it's on the Internet so his opinion in the article title must be fact, right? Apple's stance on privacy is that what you do on your iPhone stays on your iPhone. But what people seem to forget is that when you're connected to an Apple service such as iCloud or AppleTV or Apple Music, you're sending out information (.e.g what you're watching/listening to) to their servers, thus voluntarily leaving the secure enclave of your iPhone. This has always been the case.
This just proves how easy it is to rile people up online when people think primarily with their emotions and thus have knee-jerk reactions.
What are you talking about? We're talking about ads. While ads can be related to privacy, I think we weren't really gonig that route. We're talking about ads, whether they are targeted or not.
The privacy issue is one issue for ads. The other one we were also talking about is ads in general which the article does talk about. Privacy is ONE of many issues that ads brings up as the article pointed out.Did you not even read the article you linked beyond the headline? For example:
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The privacy issue is one issue for ads. The other one we were also talking about is ads in general which the article does talk about. Privacy is ONE of many issues that ads brings up as the article pointed out.
Many complaints that I recall from this thread were not specific to the issue of privacy. There's also the issue of just seeing ads which was what a lot of the grumbling has been about. This isn't to discount the issue of ads and privacy.
Edit: the gambling ads debacle, for example, I don't think was related to privacy issues. It was merely that gambling app ads were associated with certain keywords that it shouldn't have been (something like that, roughly) and so when people searched for certain things, the gambling ads came up. That's not really a privacy issue, for example.
The privacy issue is one issue for ads. The other one we were also talking about is ads in general which the article does talk about. Privacy is ONE of many issues that ads brings up as the article pointed out.
Many complaints that I recall from this thread were not specific to the issue of privacy. There's also the issue of just seeing ads which was what a lot of the grumbling has been about. This isn't to discount the issue of ads and privacy.
Edit: the gambling ads debacle, for example, I don't think was related to privacy issues. It was merely that gambling app ads were associated with certain keywords that it shouldn't have been (something like that, roughly) and so when people searched for certain things, the gambling ads came up. That's not really a privacy issue, for example.
LOL. SMH.So, again, I know of no stated Apple principle that says they won't run ads. Just because Apple does something different than it did in the past doesn't mean they were against it based on principle in the past and have now contradicted themselves.
As for the implementation of ads and how they could be improved, that's a different topic.
For me it is a two-prong issue:
1. Getting ads I never expected in places I never expected nor wanted
2. Collection of data that I specifically declined - turned off in Settings and harvesting of that data
LOL. SMH.
This is helpful. I like Apple making suggestions because I can never seem to figure out what I really want to watch.