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Imagine Rolex, who are kings of brand loyalty/marketing (irrespective of the product) sold a watch for $8000 and when you wished to re-sell your Rolex they offered you just $3000 for it.
There’s also such a thing as rarity. I’m sure if Apple only made 1 million Macs a year, there would be a far different exchange rate in the market. :) Even so, Rolex, just like anyone doing trade-ins, doesn’t provide a better return than the many, many non-Rolex sites.

Gaining new customers is the key, retention of long standing customers comes second.
Many years ago is used to be the other way around. It was very hard for new customers to get things, but once you have been a customer for ages, you got benefits.

Weird and sad how the world has flipped in this regard.
Not really weird. Any company PRIMARILY focusing on retention of long standing customers will find themselves in in the future with a LOT of customers that are no longer standing (or breathing for that matter).
 
Our daughter has a base MBP 13" early 2015 which we paid $1349 (no tax - good old days). That price also included 3 year Apple Care. The laptop is mostly fine, but it had developed the infamous screen coating issue which we never addressed on time unfortunately. Apple is now offering $75 for it but at this price we might as well keep it cause it still works fine and has a new OWC battery which I replaced about 1-2 years ago.
See, Apple DOES care about the environment. They're encouraging us to keep and use our stuff to the bitter end.
 
Review of M1 pro:
It’s an impressive upgrade from the previous Intel powered systems, provides extended battery life AND performance in a package that runs cool, BUT we can’t suggest that anyone buy this system as Apple will only give you 4 dollars during a trade in. So, we recommend you keep your current system even though it’s aging and getting ever more difficult to get your work completed quickly on.

Sure, you COULD sell your device via one of the many, many sites set up to provide a FAR better return on your investment, but who wants to go through THAT? We also can’t recommend that you purchase a new computer from anywhere else either, because none of the companies are set up to provide as significant return on the trade in as you’ll get from, say, Swappa or eBay.

Until first party companies will give you almost ALL of your money back from a several years old purchase, we suggest you just sit tight. They’ll likely understand they need to do this eventually and make that change. Annnny day now!

Nah, don’t reckon I’m the one looking foolish here. :)
The fact you actually think you don’t shows just how foolish you truly are. Something that apple has touted for years is how well their device retain value. No different than those that buy a Toyota and pay a premium for them, better quality and better resale value. All things that factor into a buying decision. And while you won’t get the same high value on a trade in vs selling, you sure would get a lot more on a trade in then bringing them an equivalent car from chrysler. Yet apple is giving us less back on these then I could get for an old Samsung A series.

Well… sorry, all this logic applies to those of us who can actually think for themselves I mean. I can see how that goes over your head. Clearly you’re more about wherever the apple wind blows, you follow along. Looks good on you, please keep going.
 
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If you use these services you’re an idiot. They reach far far higher amounts on eBay and the trade in service tends to make much lower offers than the up to amount.

Just traded my XS-Max in for 14PM and got the max offered which was 200.
The key is to never put any scratches on the screen.
Get a really good screen protector, I always use Belkin, and it'll pay itself off in the end.
 
Just traded my XS-Max in for 14PM and got the max offered which was 200.
The key is to never put any scratches on the screen.
Get a really good screen protector, I always use Belkin, and it'll pay itself off in the end.
I agree with your statement.

However, once I went with no screen protector, I could not go back. To me, the screen protector degrades the tactile feel enough that I would rather scratch the screen and live with it knowing that I will not be able to sell my phone. I used a screen protector starting from the original iPhone and stopped in 2010. While using Apples leather case exclusively, I have not had a scratch until recently on my 12 mini.
 
Apple needs to encourage people to buy more iPhones by increasing the trade-in value. I just traded-in my 5 year old iPhone X with a Pixel for €300 here in the EU, while Apple offered €80.

Apple does run bonus trade-in credit promotions from time to time as a sale/incentive to get more people to trade and buy. However, Apple may feel they don't need to run promotions as much as some other companies like Google and Samsung. Discounts, trade-in deals, etc. are much more common with other phone brands.
 
Wouldn't it be interesting if the public stopped purchasing Apple products because they are over-priced? LOL

This tactic by Apple seems (to me) obvious -- they hope you'll embrace the convenience of this trade-in arrangement, so they can reclaim the materials from your device and make a profit from their recycling -- that nets Apple higher income ratio on your purchase.

It is most definitely unfair and blatantly cheap of Apple -- not long ago, their trade-in values were reasonable.
 
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I don't understand the kind of thinking present in the comment I am responding to. There is a huge sense of entitlement present in that kind of comment.

This is business, not a social service.

I've said this on the other thread from not long ago, but yep, THIS. People complain about someone else (Apple, Phobio, whoever) trying to make the most profit by offering perceived low trade-in, because they themselves could make more profit elsewhere (ebay, craigslist, yada). The irony.

This was the fastest thumbs down I've ever given. Just wow... I honestly can't comprehend the kind of person that thinks its morally right to buy back something at less than 1/50th of the price and then sell it again refurbished for $47,000.

If someone spends 5 grants on a computer, they're not going to replace it within a couple of years. They're actually gonna USE it and use it for a long time. Their use case will not change that dramatically within just a few years that will make that computer suddenly obsolete. Also, literally no one would buy a refurbished computer for almost 5 grants.

If people could just stick to actual real-world scenarios to get upset about, that would be great.

If people could also stop thinking that computers become useless within a few years for 99% of use cases just because a newer model comes out, that would be great, too.
 
The fact you actually think you don’t shows just how foolish you truly are. Something that apple has touted for years is how well their device retain value.
Something Apple has NEVER touted is “We will buy back your device at a rate HIGHER than you can get anywhere else. Guaranteed.”

No different than those that buy a Toyota and pay a premium for them, better quality and better resale value.
Good point… how much will Toyota… the company… pay folks for a used car? (Do they even buy cars? I’m guessing only the dealerships do that.) Would you say that a user would get a better or worse price than selling to a third party OR individual?

And while you won’t get the same high value on a trade in vs selling, you sure would get a lot more on a trade in then bringing them an equivalent car from chrysler. Yet apple is giving us less back on these then I could get for an old Samsung A series.
I doubt that Toyota is buying anything. I think you’re confusing the car manufacturer with the many dealerships all over the country. Hm, almost like what everyone is saying which is you’ll always get a better deal from a third party. Seems to be somewhat of a trend across all types of devices and markets.

Well… sorry, all this logic applies to those of us who can actually think for themselves I mean. I can see how that goes over your head. Clearly you’re more about wherever the apple wind blows, you follow along. Looks good on you, please keep going.
If you can think for yourself, then you understand that trading in to Apple is the WORST option available for someone wanting to make money from their old device. As a matter of fact, trading in ANYTHING, regardless of what it is, back to the first party is always going to be the worst deal.
 
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It is most definitely unfair and blatantly cheap of Apple -- in my opinion.
So, this trade in program “simply existing” is unfair. A trade in program that no one is forced to partake in and that a cursory search on the internet can show that it’s not a “good deal”, by it’s mere existence, is unfair.

I guess Apple could just… end the unfair program. Change their service to “return it to us and we’ll recycle, free”. Is NOT giving people money MORE fair?
 
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I'm not sure why Apple is being cheap about the Trade-In value. At the end of the day, it is their innovating enriching lives products. This makes me NOT want to go through the Trade-In value program or even Recycle. I blame Apple for that.
Yeah its quite disgusting to be honest especially during a recession. From an accounting perspective I'm not sure, if at all, how Apple losses money by having a higher trade-in value for 1-3yr older iPhones or even a 5-6yr old iphone, as the latter enables users to use Apple Services, increasing revenue potential.
 
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I mean, I agree with many: they are free to basically offer whatever they want for anything. You aren’t obligated to trade it in to them. They could offer more, and it would be more enticing, obviously, but the trend seems to go downward instead of upward.

The amount offered is laughable: they offer $45 for my impeccable 9.7-inch iPad Pro. I wouldn’t give it to them for $100, or $200. But it has always been like this, even if it used to be better at some point.
 
It is most definitely unfair and blatantly cheap of Apple

It's unfair for Apple to give customers a CHOICE to trade through them (for the convenience) or not trade through them and only buy the device?

For iPhones, Apple even displays carrier promotions showing higher trade values so people can consider other trade-in options besides Apple.

It would be one thing if Apple forced you to trade your old device through them in order to get a new one but that's not the case at all.
 
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I mean, I agree with many: they are free to basically offer whatever they want for anything. You aren’t obligated to trade it in to them. They could offer more, and it would be more enticing, obviously, but the trend seems to go downward instead of upward.
And, I’d imagine if Apple offered much more, our friends in the EU would call it anti-competitive. Apple already has a monopoly on everything they sell, they’d have a monopoly on everything that got bought back, too!
 
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The trade-in value was already too low ... It should have gone up, not down! You can get a much higher price by selling it.

It is as if Apple is admitting that their products are overpriced and they don't want to spend a lot on them.
 
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After announcing new Mac and HomePod models last week, Apple adjusted its trade-in values for select devices in the United States.

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iPhone trade-in values decreased by up to $80, and most Android smartphones also went down. Mac trade-in values remained unchanged or increased by up to $40 depending on the model, while some Apple Watch models increased in value and others decreased. Trade-in values were not changed for any iPad models.

Apple's latest trade-in values are listed below.

iPhone
  • iPhone 13 Pro Max: Up to $570 (vs. $650)
  • iPhone 13 Pro: Up to $470 (vs. $550)
  • iPhone 13: Up to $400 (vs. $450)
  • iPhone 13 mini: Up to $350 (vs. $380)
  • iPhone 12 Pro Max: Up to $400 (vs. $480)
  • iPhone 12 Pro: Up to $330 (vs. $400)
  • iPhone 12: Up to $300 (vs. $300)
  • iPhone 12 mini: Up to $250 (vs. $250)
  • iPhone SE (2nd generation): Up to $100 (vs. $100)
  • iPhone 11 Pro Max: Up to $280 (vs. $330)
  • iPhone 11 Pro: Up to $230 (vs. $250)
  • iPhone 11: Up to $200 (vs. $200)
  • iPhone XS Max: Up to $200 (vs. $200)
  • iPhone XS: Up to $160 (vs. $160)
  • iPhone XR: Up to $150 (vs. $150)
  • iPhone X: Up to $130 (vs. $130)
  • iPhone 8 Plus: Up to $100 (vs. $100)
  • iPhone 8: Up to $75 (vs. $75)
  • iPhone 7 Plus: Up to $50 (vs. $60)
  • iPhone 7: Up to $40 (vs. $40)

iPad
  • iPad Pro: Up to $445 (vs. $445)
  • iPad Air: Up to $230 (vs. $230)
  • iPad: Up to $160 (vs. $160)
  • iPad mini: Up to $240 (vs. $240)

Mac
  • MacBook Pro: Up to $670 (vs. $630)
  • MacBook Air: Up to $460 (vs. $440)
  • MacBook: Up to $110 (vs. $100)
  • iMac Pro: Up to $600 (vs. $600)
  • iMac: Up to $530 (vs. $530)
  • Mac Pro: Up to $1,250 (vs. $1,250)
  • Mac mini: Up to $340 (vs. $305)

Apple Watch
  • Apple Watch Series 7: Up to $160 (vs. $155)
  • Apple Watch Series 6: Up to $105 (vs. $105)
  • Apple Watch SE: Up to $65 (vs. $70)
  • Apple Watch Series 5: Up to $75 (vs. $80)
  • Apple Watch Series 4: Up to $45 (vs. $45)
The full list of trade-in values, including those for Android smartphones, can be found on Apple's trade-in website.

(Thanks, Brad P.!)

Article Link: Apple Adjusts Trade-In Values for iPhones, Macs, and More
Probably get lots of Android trade ins since most want to ditch the platform and upgrade to IOS.
 
Yes. Apple Apple is happily charging you over thousand for iPhone 11 Pro Max on their refurbished store. LOL
They are not buying for refurbishment. They are buying back the intrinsic parts. Jeessh. Why don't you get that? 🙄
 
Apple are using a third party vendor for this, and that third party sets the prices doesn't it? Which makes some of the arguments in this thread kinda silly and pointless. Shows how little the general public understands how this stuff works, but are quite happy to judge and rage about it.
 
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