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Apple Adopting Custom-Designed Bluetooth and Wi-Fi Chip in 2025, Cutting Reliance on Broadcom
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Didn’t MR report on this chip with the new SE, alleging that the modem chip would be gimped or am I mistaken?
This will likely reduce costs. Apple doesn't always raise prices. The Mac Mini is only $599, same price as the original Mac mini from 2006, thus beating inflation since it was introduced.
Cellular connectivity for something as important as a phone is a bigger concern, in my opinion.
I was scratching my head and started thinking:
maybe Broadcom did also generate price hikes in licensing for the use of their Wireless, that are as high as they where for VMWARE wich lead us to move to Proxmox in early 2024.
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maybe Broadcom did also generate price hikes in licensing for the use of their Wireless, that are as high as they where for VMWARE wich lead us to move to Proxmox in early 2024.
Disgruntled customers discuss quitting VMware
Ars Technica speaks with users and channel partners disgruntled by Broadcom’s changes.
arstechnica.com
This is how a certain type of person currently thinks they can be cool. By being cynical.
Problem is, this only works if you're trying to show off to people who are as clueless as you...
So, mission accomplished -- you've looked cool to people no sane human being would care about impressing.
Meanwhile, in the REAL world, I'd remind people that Apple ALREADY ship
- the H2 (Bluetooth 5.3, in current AirPods, AirPods Pro, and Vision Pro)
- the W3 (BT5.3, WiFi 4 at 2.4GHz, in all recent Apple Watches)
- the U2 (UWB location/communication, in recent watches and phones, and presumably soon to replace the U1 in AirTags)
It's not like Apple has zero experience with RF or BT and WiFi protocols.
it would cool if they make a wifi router with that custom wifi chip i would buy in a heartbeat
Seems in many threads you simply want to play victim.
Apple is not victimizing you.
That's not a problem.
You shouldn't be concerned how much a company makes, only the value the product provides for you and if it's worth the price.
I guess, if you like the product and it's not a commodity, it might be good that they make a profit making it less likely they cancel it.
You can't, but the patent costs will probably be less because some of these companies charge a percentage of the product (while also having max prices).
This is why I've said Apple wants a singular communications chip that combines 3GPP LTE, 3GPP NR 5G, WiFi 7, Bluetooth 6.0 and UWB support. That will allow a much smaller circuit board internally on an iPhone, which means Apple can use a bigger battery even if we see an 5 mm thick iPhone, not to mention cooling running since a single chip likely generates less heat than separate I/O chips.
It depends. You may be able to because patents only protect the actual invention (the way it's designed/made), not the concept or idea. The invention must be unique and non-obvious to someone skilled in the art. And they have a limited term of protection.
I’m aware. I’m obviously talking about design. Qualcomm and Broadcom don’t manufacture any chips either.
Thanks for the article! After skimming thru it, I feel Broadcom is becoming the new Adobe. As long as they'e making money they won't abandon the subscription model or at least lower their prices.I was scratching my head and started thinking:
maybe Broadcom did also generate price hikes in licensing for the use of their Wireless, that are as high as they where for VMWARE wich lead us to move to Proxmox in early 2024.
Disgruntled customers discuss quitting VMware
Ars Technica speaks with users and channel partners disgruntled by Broadcom’s changes.
I don't think a single chip combining WiFi, Bluetooth and Cellular, will be in devices at least for the next 5 years. Wonder which iPad will get the new WiFI + Bluetooth chip. Might be the Air.
Apple is not a governmental or public entity. Their obligation is to their shareholders and meeting their performance objectives.
When they cut costs they have zero obligation to pass it to the consumers unless there is a different strategy for gaining more marketshare by increasing their competitive advantage.
Also, making the chip themselves they lower the risk of an external supplier's impact on their manufacturing, thus also reducing the risk of things they cannot control.
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Analog signal processing circuits don't benefit from smaller process nodes anymore, they will not be able to fully integrate the modems inside their ARM chips. They can certainly make a similar move like intel did with their laptop CPUs and use a similar technology like CNVio2 that keeps the processing logic and memory inside the SoCs and the RF components on a simpler die, with bigger (and cheaper) process nodes. Imagine it like what they do with SSDs currently. The controllers are located inside the silicon.