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Can anyone else confirm that spotify force closes when you first open it? This has happened on all 7.1 betas, including 5.
 
Enough cosmetics, deal with performance and core functionality issues

As of today last iPad, mini and iPhone generation with iOS 6 delivered way better user experience and performance in the functionality it was meant to be paramount on those devices ...

Browsing the internet,

right now this (among others ...) is (are) wrecked and crashed by memory issues

Whats the use of upgrading to a new mediocre generation device with a still beta os !?
 
Whats the use of upgrading to a new mediocre generation device with a still beta os !?

Yep! Supposedly, something like 80% of all iOS devices have been updated to iOS 7. Well, much of the reason that is true is because YOU CAN'T DOWNGRADE back to iOS 6 of 5! You're STUCK once you pull the trigger!

I have no significant complaints with iOS 7 on my iPhone 5S. There are things I like about the UI and there are things I don't like about it. But my iPhone 5S works fine with iOS 7.

On my iPad 3 it's a completely different story. It's slow and laggy with iOS 7. And the aforementioned incredibly slow loading of image thumbnails from memory card pretty much makes my iPad 3 useless for me (for my photography purposes).

If only Apple would let me "downgrade" back to iOS 5 or 6. It's MY iPad and I should be able to run whatever OS I choose.

Mark
 
What "suboptimal" product? iOS7 runs fine. There's nothing really that *prevents* you from running the operating system. Most of the "issues" are just from people who don't like icons or the look of the updated apps.

I love iOS 7, both on phone and iPad, relatively bug-free actually.

Except for Safari, which seems to crash about 5-10 times a say depending on what I'm doing. If I scroll too fast at the wrong time when it's loading, load too much on a page, or if i sneeze the wrong way it'll crash.

Which I can deal with because I know how to work around buggy software, however I know a lot of people can't.
 
Can anyone else confirm that spotify force closes when you first open it? This has happened on all 7.1 betas, including 5.

I've only had this happen a couple of times (other apps, not beta) which experience this behavior upon updating sometimes so it may/may not apply. However, it seemed to fix itself after double-clicking the home button to close the app and restarting the phone. I assume it has to do with some combination of sandboxing and app/phone updates because based on reviews it randomly affects a good portion of apps, but it's hard to reproduce so I can't say for certain.

Again, it may not work but it's probably worth a try.
 
If only Apple would let me "downgrade" back to iOS 5 or 6. It's MY iPad and I should be able to run whatever OS I choose.

It may be your iPad, but the software itself (iOS) is owned and licensed by Apple and they have no obligation or reason to continue the licensing of old software.
 
Probably the most feature-less iOS x.1 release to date?

Just minor design tweaks? really?
Keep in mind that this one seems to bring a lot of under-the-hood changes to really improve stability and performance (which, at least in the overall sense, are really more important than other tweaks or new features)...somehow a lot of people seem to overlook that completely.

That, and a lot of (at least more recent) iOS x.1 releases didn't really bring that many user facing changes.
 
A lot of x.1 releases didn't really bring that many user facing changes. Keep in mind that this one seems to bring a lot of under-the-hood changes to really improve stability and performance (which, at least in the overall sense, are really more important than other tweaks or new features)...somehow a lot of people seem to overlook that completely.

Exactly, many people expect all x.1 to bring new stuff to the table, when in fact it focuses less on features and more on polishing what needs to be polished.
 
if you collaborate with other people on latest versions, you HAVE to update.

no. you only have to update if your collaborators have the latest version. theres nothing saying none of you have to update at all.

but if you're complaining that your you can't open newer documents in your older client, what do you expect? thats par for the course w/ newer versions of almost anything, especially major client releases.

you know whats funny? the other bunch of whiners, who complained that iWork wasnt getting enough changes....hah, none of you are ever happy.
 
The performance of my retina mini and iPhone 5 on iOS 7 is unacceptable. The mini springboards at least 5 times a day (no exaggeration) and the iPhone suffers from nearly constant 2 second freezes and the music app (probably 60% of what I use my phone for) is damn near unusable from bugs and crashing.

6 months post release and my devices are still terribly handicapped. Unacceptable.
 
Still not crazy about a lot of the visual tweaks. Personally, I think they are a step backwards. Oh well... at least it should be more stable.

not me, i welcome them. iOS 7 is a new visual direction, and it will need routine tweaking. i plan on trying out the new Button Shapes feature for sure.
 
So far iOS 7.1 beta 5 (waited until 5 to load up the beta version) is a big improvement over 7.04. Much more stable, no crashes, pretty happy overall. Like most others have said, iOS 7 was just awful my iPad Air, if the thing crashed one more time while typing an e-mail, it was about to go trow it out the window. It's early, but I'm happy. Animations are much smoother, more so again in the iPad.
 
The performance of my retina mini and iPhone 5 on iOS 7 is unacceptable. The mini springboards at least 5 times a day (no exaggeration) and the iPhone suffers from nearly constant 2 second freezes and the music app (probably 60% of what I use my phone for) is damn near unusable from bugs and crashing.

6 months post release and my devices are still terribly handicapped. Unacceptable.

The music App? Fascinating, I've had problems but the music app seemed pretty streamlined and stable. I did have problems with iTunes Radio but no crashing.

How much music do you have loaded on there? I would probably try wiping the music and re-syncing it from a fresh iTunes library (even just as a diagnostic step) because my first thought is a corrupted library.

Disclaimer: I know nothing of your setup nor how common the problem has been for others in iOS 7.
 
IOS7...the worst update.....EVER

How about fixing the horrible battery life or the freezing issues or the countless other problems...How about hiring back Scott Forstall because I have seriously lost my respect for Apple over this horrendous bs and for the first time in 30 years I am seriously considering going over the fence...Bring me back Apple...please.. Why do I have to turn off almost every single feature of this stupid phone to get at least 4-5 pathetic hours of battery life....sad face indeed.
 
How about fixing the horrible battery life or the freezing issues or the countless other problems...How about hiring back Scott Forstall because I have seriously lost my respect for Apple over this horrendous bs and for the first time in 30 years I am seriously considering going over the fence...Bring me back Apple...please.. Why do I have to turn off almost every single feature of this stupid phone to get at least 4-5 pathetic hours of battery life....sad face indeed.
And who said that iOS 7.1 won't address at least some if not most of those issues (at least to some if not a larger degree)?
 
I hope it solves all the current issues and bugs.
I'm getting too many random safari crashes on my iPad Air.it's getting really annoying.
there are too many "low memory" crash reports.. :(
 
iOS 7 Crashes

Hello

i hope in the next update of iOS 7.1 or later they fix all the crashes. # because it is a realy pain.

iOS 6 /6.1.3 Crashed but not like iOS7. most of the apps crash. even the apple apps crash.

so i hope when Apple Comes out with iOS 7.1 Update the Crash issue has been fixed.
 
Some of you may be confusing crashes (hard reboots) with respringing (soft reboots). My iPhone 5S running iOS 7.0.4 was VERY susceptible to respringing WHEN I had the "Reduce Motion" setting turned ON. It would respring (soft reboot) every single day, sometimes multiple times in a day.

I turned OFF the "Reduce Motion" setting (off is the default, I had turned it on right after getting the phone) over a month ago and I haven't had another respring since. In fact, I've had ZERO reboots (hard or soft) on my iPhone 5S since then.

Rarely, an app (such as Safari) will quit and I'll be back at the home screen. But, other than that, my iPhone 5S has been pretty darn stable, even with iOS 7.0.4.

Likewise, my iPad 3 had been stable with 7.0.4, even with "Reduce Motion" turned ON (because the iPad 3 is HORRIBLY slow with it turned off). My ONLY complaint with iOS 7.0.4 is the problems with loading image thumbnails from CF and SD cards. THAT has made my iPad 3 pretty much worthless to me for my photography purposes! :mad:

Mark
 
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