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Apple Again Tops Holiday Sales With 44% of All New Mobile Device Activations
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Since this report didn’t come from Apple, how did you get to the conclusion that Apple is manipulating this???
Definitely will go with Apple being the single most popular brand during the holiday period... LOL, considering the iPhone x and 8 came out within 30 days of the holiday period. Samsung GS8 was the number one selling phone in the 30 days following its release by tenfold... Or how about we take a 30 day data sample when Samsung Galaxy 9 comes out in February and see how that looks. I just don't get it how Americans are so blind to statistical data. I think it's the cable news effect on people... people pick a data source (be it Fox or CNN) and just sit there and absorb the "facts" either side spew when both are based off a completely irrelevant set of data. Yeah, Apple sold more than Samsung the 30 day period after the release of their iPhons X\8... duhh. And Samsung obliterated Apple in the 30 days period following the release of the latest Samsung flagship. This isn't difficult people.
Apples iPhone absolutely crushes sales of Samsung flagships (Galaxy S and Note). Every single year regardless of who releases what and when.
The data didn't come from Apple. The data was presented by an Apple fansite. Android Forums could present the same data and title it "Android once again obliterated iOS"
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BAHAHAHHAa, do you really think Apple outsold Samsung Galaxy S8 April 21-May 21, 2017? If so, I have some oceanfront property in North Dakota to sell you.
And you do realize that Samsung has been releasing two flagships a year, compared to Apple's one, if you'd even consider Apple doing one a year (I'd really call it once every other year at this point, but let's go with once a year for giggles)
Since when is ~55% “obliterating” 44% in device activations? Again, addition is hard, my dude.
The word "Christmas"is right there in the article (second paragraph). And it is not the only holiday in December. People give and get gifts for Hanukkah, New Year and maybe some other holidays. Singling out Christmas would make no sense. Also, Orthodox Christmas is on January 7th. Those gifts are yet to come.
I'm shocked that iPhone 6 is #2 on the list... with its 2014-era A8 processor and 1GB of RAM.
These must be activations in places like China and India, right?
The article said Apple no longer sells the iPhone 6... yet it's the #2 most activated iPhone in the world.
The bright side is... all those heavily discounted iPhone 6 are bringing people into the Apple ecosystem. That could lead to app sales and/or Apple Music subscriptions.
So it's not all bad.
I'm sure Apple is still happy for someone to activate an iPhone 6 rather than some Android phone.
I see your point about older phone activations exceeding current generation phones. I'd love to see this same report from a year ago.
Then again... this is the first time Apple had an additional higher-priced model on top of their regular offerings. So last year's data wouldn't exactly line up.
No, it would still be 44% over their reporting period, so 10% would not be accurate. Assuming only iOS and Android, it would be 44% iOS and 56% Android. You don’t even understand the data you’re disputing the presentation of.
They are discussing device sales by manufacturer, aka what manufacturers try to do do. In that sense, there’s no debate that Apple does really well in this Christmas season
I guess the feeling is mutual. You don’t understand stats when presented, or why market share is important (third party dev support, and we get great iOS apps with the market), or what companies and shareholders want (sales, profits, growth: Apple's pretty good at that).
The idea that one manufacturer can have a majority device market share in the mobile is, frankly, absurd. I wouldn’t want to be lumped in with those with such a loose grasp of reality. 10% (if your figure is accurate) is pretty good, Apple's initial expectations were in the single digits.
You’re one to talk about cherrypicking data.
You are correct but only in the context of USA. The numbers probably look much more different worldwide.
No, this data (in the original article) is worldwide. iOS had 44% of activations per this data; Android had somewhere around 55%, and stragglers like BlackBerry and Windows Phone made up the rest (I’m being generous and giving them 1%). It’s just adding the Android manufacturers up.
Clearly the ones arguing thing Samsung is a smaller company than Apple, so they don't get out much. Samsung is like an Elephant and Apple is an ant. Samsung doesn't just have one business line, and therefor doesn't lump all of their businesses into one company. But hey, some of the people here seem to think the world revolves around the US.
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The report is comparing sales of a brand new phone released within the last 45 days to a nearly 8 month old phone due for refresh in the next 30 days. It's so funny how grasping the report is. But hey, have you read "Yahoo News" or "Yahoo Finance" lately... it's so hilarious. Every article is written as if through the eyes of a 14 year old's school paper.
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Oh I see, so it's fine to take data of the 30 day period following Apple's flagship release and compare it to the same 30 day period 7 months after the competition's release, but not the same cherrypicking in reverse? Wow, you really just lost any credibility you had.
Dude stop.
You played yourself with your very first inaccurate post on this topic.
Yes the data was present by Macrumors, but so what? It came from Yahoo.
The data shown was put together as shown by Yahoo.
If you bothered to look at the link you would know this:
Apple Wins 2017 Smartphone Holiday Season
This explains your first post.
Whenever a poster resorts to a Bahahaha you know you've won the battle.[/QUOTE]
Uh, where did I say the iPhone outsold the Galaxy S8 over a very specific period of time? Is that the only way you can claim a victory for Samsung? By cherry-picking a single month out of the year?
I’m talking about yearly overall sales. Again, the iPhone crushes Samsung flagship sales. By several times over
Samsung Electronics is the closest analog to compare to Apple. They make laptops, phones, tablets, smartwatches, displays, and of course, other things.
Even with all of that extra stuff, Samsung Electronics is not a “bigger company” than Apple by the standard metric of the size of a company, which is market capitalization. I’m waiting for you to cite a source on “Samsung Companies” financials, but as a hint, Samsung Electronics makes up a pretty good majority of Samsung Group’s business. It accounted for 70% of Samsung Group’s revenue in 2012, and I wouldn’t find it unreasonable to assume that share’s remained roughly steady or grown since.
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Sounds like Samsung should modify its release schedule if it wants in on a combined holiday and release sales bump. Not my fault or the data’s fault.
Also, yet another incorrect argument: This data is only a week leading up to Christmas, not 30 days. Neglecting the holiday bump, the iPhone launch sales bump, even for iPhone X, has likely mostly died off by now and begun to reset to a more normal rate of sales.
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This is really embarrassing man. All your posts are just so...discouraging. Just take the L and move on.
You are correct that the data is for worldwide sales but we probably should take into account that Christmas is a big holiday in a relatively few countries (especially accounting for population). I suspect that the distribution for Chinese New Year will look very different. Also, the data is provided by the US company that provides analytics tools to software developers. Only phones which owners installed the apps with these tools could have been counted. I expect that this also skews data towards US (and countries with similar app preferences) device owners.
It isn't just internationally. Two people I know just picked up brand new iPhone 6 devices from domestic pay-as-you-go providers. They were promoted pretty heavily going into Black Friday as a no-contract $199 option.
No, it’s for worldwide activations, not sales, which are close but markedly distinct. The data may be skewed slightly, but they wouldn’t call it worldwide if it weren’t at least somewhat representative. (Otherwise, any statistical analysis at all would be inherently invalid and this company would have no reason to exist because it would have no product.)
Can you imagine how bummed must be those who just got iPhone 6 (and newer models) and then learned about the power management flaw in it? Let's hope Apple does the right thing and comes up with a plan for free battery replacements for extended period of time (they may be forced to do this by courts).
I think you are referring to marketshare in that bolded statement. The article is referring to new device activations. This means that more iOS devices were sold and activated compared to others (at least that's how I interpreted it).