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Actually it looks sexy on the wrist of the lady, nice pict! Yes, it is a little bigger. But the screen is curved which makes feel smaller. And it looks more futuristically cool, while providing larger screen size. The curved retina OLED screen is very impressive. Larger screen also allows for a soft keyboard: you can text, add/edit contact data, dial phone etc - something you can't do with Apple Watch.

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Yes, you can do more with the Gear S, and, unlike Apple Watch, you can actually purchase it.

So the apple watch is just a wild rumour and might not actually exist? Have I missed something? You can purchase an apple watch, just not yet.
Its like saying my Mercedes can do more than a newly announced BMW and than the first comparison is that you cant buy the BMW yet. Duh
 
I didn't find a need for a smart watch either until I got a good pair of headphones. Since they didn't have an inline remote for controlling music on my iPhone I picked up a Pebble to pause+skip through music. Since then I've found it absolutely invaluable.

- My phone may be anywhere in my house but if it's within range of my Pebble I'll get call notifications on that instead of missing the call.
- Text message+social media notifications are equally useful. I don't have to pick up my phone to see the message any more.
- When I go hiking I can now just use my Pebble as a compass, before that I'd have to get my phone out (and failing that a real compass).

It basically means I can just bury my phone in my pocket and just look at my watch when I get notifications. That's the big thing for me, it just makes stuff easier to the point I couldn't go without out now. Equally I think there isn't anything I need in a smartwatch that the Pebble doesn't already do.

Ah okay, nice to hear about world world use of these devices. I can see the convenience you gain from it, but it also explains why its lost on me. I clearly just don't use my phone enough to warrant being constantly connected! I live my the idea that if a call is important enough, they can leave a voicemail! Haha #
 
The Apple watch should easily get a full day use with the display not staying on all the time. See attached for an example with a device with a crappy cpu and 300 mah battery.
 

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Actually it looks sexy on the wrist of the lady, nice pict! Yes, it is a little bigger. But the screen is curved which makes feel smaller. And it looks more futuristically cool, while providing larger screen size. The curved retina OLED screen is very impressive. Larger screen also allows for a soft keyboard: you can text, add/edit contact data, dial phone etc - something you can't do with Apple Watch.

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Yes, you can do more with the Gear S, and, unlike Apple Watch, you can actually purchase it.

If you think this HORROR is worth it.. Well, I can't help you, and the 100K people who will buy it, at all.
 
The battery reports are going to be hilarious, people with a dead piece of plastic on their wrist by midday because they weren't conservative with its usage
 
The battery reports are going to be hilarious, people with a dead piece of plastic on their wrist by midday because they weren't conservative with its usage

People will always complain, no matter what. I am really curious to see how well the Apple Watch will sell.
 
People will always complain, no matter what. I am really curious to see how well the Apple Watch will sell.

It's an apple product, it will sell millions. Also, terrible battery that doesn't even last a day isn't some simple complaint
 
been a loyal apple user for 25+ years now but this one feels like a miss. who on earth wants to take off a watch twice a day and charge it ALONG w. a phone.

? Who else builds a watch with 19 hour battery life, all the Android watches do not last that long, I bet if you do not use it heavily you might be able to get more, but think of what it is being designed to do. I think anyone will have a hard time getting much more.
 
? Who else builds a watch with 19 hour battery life, all the Android watches do not last that long, I bet if you do not use it heavily you might be able to get more, but think of what it is being designed to do. I think anyone will have a hard time getting much more.


As said before. My pebble easily lasts a week. 19 hours for a watch is just ridiculous.
 
My pebble easily lasts a week. 19 hours for a watch is just ridiculous.

Battery life in the watch form factor is dependent on depth of functionality.

One might as well say:

My casio easily lasts a decade. A week for a watch is just ridiculous.
 
? Who else builds a watch with 19 hour battery life, all the Android watches do not last that long, I bet if you do not use it heavily you might be able to get more, but think of what it is being designed to do. I think anyone will have a hard time getting much more.

My LG G gets a good 2 days worth of use.

As I've said before - this is where the tech is right now. Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, etc- all of these smart watches are going to be the same give or take when it comes to battery life with the assumption that the battery inside is about the same, of course).

There isn't going to be some dramatic variance.
 
Battery life in the watch form factor is dependent on depth of functionality.

One might as well say:

My casio easily lasts a decade. A week for a watch is just ridiculous.


Of course it is. Not even lasting a day is just plain stupid and non functional.
 
Battery life in the watch form factor is dependent on depth of functionality.

One might as well say:

My casio easily lasts a decade. A week for a watch is just ridiculous.

I couldn't have said it better myself, I don't understand why one would compare the Apple watch with the likes of pebble, Citizen, Seiko, etc. When clearly the Apple watch, is designed to do a lot more than just tell time. So I can't understand why one would expect the battery life to last as long as others. A mean that's like saying a Bugatti Veyron should have the same Gas mileage as a Toyota Corolla, not going to happen. We can all agree that both are cars in general, but the Bugatti is way more powerful with a lot more features, with a top speed of 250mph being one of them. So instead of getting 35 mpg, the Bugatti will get 8mpg in the city and 14mpg on the hwy. And if run at top speed for more than 15-20 minutes, it will go through a full tank of its 26.4 gallons of fuel.
 
My LG G gets a good 2 days worth of use.

As I've said before - this is where the tech is right now. Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, etc- all of these smart watches are going to be the same give or take when it comes to battery life with the assumption that the battery inside is about the same, of course).

There isn't going to be some dramatic variance.

For me as long as the device can get through the day with light to moderate use I don't see what the issue is. Put it on the charger when I go to bed. Or if it doesn't take that long to charge, charge it before I go to bed wear it while I'm sleeping and charge it again in the morning while I'm getting ready for the day. Of course that will depend on how long it takes to charge. I'm hoping Apple can get it under 2 hours.
 
For me as long as the device can get through the day with light to moderate use I don't see what the issue is. Put it on the charger when I go to bed. Or if it doesn't take that long to charge, charge it before I go to bed wear it while I'm sleeping and charge it again in the morning while I'm getting ready for the day. Of course that will depend on how long it takes to charge. I'm hoping Apple can get it under 2 hours.

Indeed. As long as the watch can get through an individual's use case, all should be "fine."

Charge time is something we've both been curious about since the beginning. That will interesting.

But those that want to turn this isn't some battle between Android Wear vs Apple Watch (for example based on battery life) are being rather silly. Neither one is going to perform like a fit bit, pebble or real watch. The question people need to ask themselves is - how much do they care.

No one "needs" a smart watch. But they definitely can serve a purpose and be nice to have.
 
Indeed. As long as the watch can get through an individual's use case, all should be "fine."

Charge time is something we've both been curious about since the beginning. That will interesting.

But those that want to turn this isn't some battle between Android Wear vs Apple Watch (for example based on battery life) are being rather silly. Neither one is going to perform like a fit bit, pebble or real watch. The question people need to ask themselves is - how much do they care.

No one "needs" a smart watch. But they definitely can serve a purpose and be nice to have.

No one needs a smart watch yet everyone needs a smart watch battery to last a week. :)
 
I couldn't have said it better myself, I don't understand why one would compare the Apple watch with the likes of pebble, Citizen, Seiko, etc. When clearly the Apple watch, is designed to do a lot more than just tell time. So I can't understand why one would expect the battery life to last as long as others. A mean that's like saying a Bugatti Veyron should have the same Gas mileage as a Toyota Corolla, not going to happen. We can all agree that both are cars in general, but the Bugatti is way more powerful with a lot more features, with a top speed of 250mph being one of them. So instead of getting 35 mpg, the Bugatti will get 8mpg in the city and 14mpg on the hwy. And if run at top speed for more than 15-20 minutes, it will go through a full tank of its 26.4 gallons of fuel.

Hmm...interesting analogy.

A better one would be to compare the Toyota Corolla to a Nissan Leaf. Because of it's short driving range (battery time), the Leaf is not selling as well as the Corolla or other electric cars with a longer range (better battery).

People expected a Tesla from Apple...and instead they got a Nissan Leaf. :cool:
 
I couldn't have said it better myself, I don't understand why one would compare the Apple watch with the likes of pebble, Citizen, Seiko, etc. When clearly the Apple watch, is designed to do a lot more than just tell time. So I can't understand why one would expect the battery life to last as long as others. A mean that's like saying a Bugatti Veyron should have the same Gas mileage as a Toyota Corolla, not going to happen. We can all agree that both are cars in general, but the Bugatti is way more powerful with a lot more features, with a top speed of 250mph being one of them. So instead of getting 35 mpg, the Bugatti will get 8mpg in the city and 14mpg on the hwy. And if run at top speed for more than 15-20 minutes, it will go through a full tank of its 26.4 gallons of fuel.


I'm not sure it is that much more. I mean it is several year newer than a pebble in its development cycle. The pebble got the motion sensors and blue tooth Le in it as well. It communicates and requires a mobile phone as well. Shows my Satnav directions, shows my run keeper metrics. Keeps recording the distance without a phone. The only thing it doesn't do is reply to texts and have a colour screen.
 
Hmm...interesting analogy.

A better one would be to compare the Toyota Corolla to a Nissan Leaf. Because of it's short driving range (battery time), the Leaf is not selling as well as the Corolla or other electric cars with a longer range (better battery).

People expected a Tesla from Apple...and instead they got a Nissan Leaf. :cool:

The curb weight of the Tesla S is more than half a ton heavier than the Nissan Leaf, so the Tesla is closer to the gigantic Samsung Gear S in mass, while the Apple Watch will be closer to the Tesla S in performance.
 
The curb weight of the Tesla S is more than half a ton heavier than the Nissan Leaf, so the Tesla is closer to the gigantic Samsung Gear S in mass, while the Apple Watch will be closer to the Tesla S in performance.


:rolleyes:


You just like to argue, even when you are wrong, don't you? We are talking about battery time, not size or curb weight.
 
The curb weight of the Tesla S is more than half a ton heavier than the Nissan Leaf, so the Tesla is closer to the gigantic Samsung Gear S in mass, while the Apple Watch will be closer to the Tesla S in performance.

Uh that is cause the tesla has a battery like three times the size of the leaf... which isn't even close to the same comparison for the Gear S vs Apple Watch...

Note: the Gear S has 300mAh battery.

Apple Watch will be able to last a full day. I think folks are misjudging how often they will have the display of the watch on.
 
My mechanical watch lasts a day without a battery. Also tells the time. My pebble does what the apple watch does, in b&w and without ability to respond to text messages, yet lasts a week. I really like smart watches but would suggest it should last longer than a day. Heck you couldn't use it to measure your sleep pattern overnight and then continue using it the following day. To me it just doesn't make any sense.
 
The battery reports are going to be hilarious, people with a dead piece of plastic on their wrist by midday because they weren't conservative with its usage
As a developer/geek, I'll probably get half a day out of my oft-fiddled-with watch. But I'll just carry my phone charger battery and use it to charge up the watch. The watch charger cable seems to be a regular USB cable on the far end, I can plug it into the charger battery, my laptop or whatever, and it probably will take less than an hour to charge it - perhaps substantially less.
 
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