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No headphone socket in the next iPhone. No DVD drive for iMac (like I buy an all-in-one to have cables and devices all over my desk), subscription model being crammed down our throats. My time in the ecosystem looks to be short-lived if these rumors are true. Apple really changed my opinion about the company for the better in the recent past, but now a more open, albeit less stable, less slick, less refined environment is gaining some appeal again.

Ironically the loss of the headphone socket will expose the poor quality of streaming music.
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Streaming services can download files for offline play. You have zero point.
Until you have to restore a 256GB ipad, or want better quality audio than they offer.
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You don't own your music by paying a dollar for the license to listen to it on the device you paid. You own it exactly the same way by streaming/downloading it via Apple Music, it's just an obviously more cost effective, simpler option.

Until the rights revert and the song disappears from the catalog.
 
Update: Apple rep Tom Neumayr contacted Recode and said the report that Apple would stop iTunes music downloads in two years is "not true."

Yeah. So we can all calm down now.

Or can we?

It might just be a hypothetical for now, now that apple have denied it.

But apple could change their mind at any time.

So it could still happen.
 
So, if this were to happen, how do I listen to my music while on the beach in Baja with no Wi-fi or trekking in Nepal with no Wi-fi or in the beach bungalow in Bali with no internet? Am I missing something here? Are they assuming that every time we want to listen to music that we are connected to the internet? If so, how rudely myopic. Are they that addicted themselves that they can't remember that traveling to places without internet is actually a beautiful and healthy thing to do?

Truly great point. I'm with you on all of those points! Big up!
 

Yay!

You know, the article made me think. Someone drew a trendline and assumed it would continue. I bet purchased music may continue down, but it's not likely to disappear.

And as far as why music sales are down....maybe they should look at the product being produced? Tons of 'invented' AutoTuned stars with shtick and no talent. Not many singer/songwriter/composer/musician combos out there anymore.
 
Expected super heated debate.
Well. Don't forget that not everyone want to stream music. Gosh my data! I need 1000000000000000GB per month to stream! :O
And I PREFER to own music. I used to download stuff from elsewhere but now I try to purchase songs I really love, as long as they are affordable. And Sub? NO. I will never ever pay for Apple Music unless they can include some "limited version" songs into Apple Music library. That library is NOT UNLIMITED.
 
Yay!

You know, the article made me think. Someone drew a trendline and assumed it would continue. I bet purchased music may continue down, but it's not likely to disappear.

And as far as why music sales are down....maybe they should look at the product being produced? Tons of 'invented' AutoTuned stars with shtick and no talent. Not many singer/songwriter/composer/musician combos out there anymore.


I did find the original post on this odd. Drake had over a million album sales in the first week off iTunes. It didn't add up that they would do away with the download option when they are making decent money still.
 
Maybe, this was a true story and the fat cats at Apple were testing this idea out on the public!!! Sadly, I wouldn't put anything past them now.
 
And most Americans traveling to a 3rd world country…. where wifi is unreliable or unavailable unless you book a 5-star hotel. Those vacationers are not going to have any music to listen to.
Why wouldn't they? You don't need to have a data connection to listen to Spotify or Apple Music. Just download your tracks before you leave.
 
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The same way you do now with AM: by uploading any tracks that aren't matched by the iTunes catalog. Then they're available in AM.

And offline downloads for going places without cell or wifi service are currently, and will always be available in AM.

The amount of disinformation and ignorance here about how Apple Music works is staggering. Yet please continue with the righteous anger...

I think you missed the point that I was getting at. If iTunes downloads are gone, and a song isn't on Apple Music, how exactly do you propose that I get the song? Legally, by the way. Of course I could download it but I'm talking about legal methods, here. On top of that I'm in Canada so a lot of alternatives aren't available here.
 
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Perhaps I am confused. I thought the rumor was that downloading the music for offline playback is what is what is being eliminated.
Streaming services let you download up to 10,000 songs. If music ever disappears from the service you can just download it elsewhere and sync those files to your streaming account as offline tracks. I've never had to do that.
 
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I imagine a situation where itunes and the music app will be centered around streaming first and purchasing second. I, for one, would be for that. The current UI is way too confusing.

also how can apple ever stop selling music? Unless they are 100% sure every song made will be on streaming, they can't stop seling music. See exclusivde launches, etc.
 
Thanks for posting that.

I wonder if the "rumor" was intentionally started in order to gauge public reaction?

No big deal either way, though, as there are plenty of alternative places to buy and download music. (I would not pirate music. I respect the artists too much. But if I had to I'd buy the physical disc and rip it to my iPod.)
The original story indicated Jimmy Iovine was pushing for this. He's s cancer on Apple and needs to go, now.
 
Now that it is not true, we see the real problem that Apple has right now. Not one of us could count on or depend on the original rumor being untrue. Apple has so messed up their reputation with reversals, product drops, aging products, flops, etc. that no one can count on Apple any more.

I really wish Apple could do more than one thing at a time. Its like there are about 20 people at Apple that can turn out great products and when they are busy working on the next great thing, everything else suffers.
 
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