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Apple Already Working on Mac OS X 10.7 Development?

Peace said:
I'm not talkin super-computer graphics. I'm talkin about consumer stuff.

But hey! Think what you will. It's still a free country :)
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But Unix != OS X.

I've done professional design work on Macs and Windows in a production environment and I've supported designers for prepress and design work, and I can tell you without any fear of contradiction that Windows gets its ass handed to it.

Yes, you can do mom-n-pop type design stuff on either platform just fine, but if you need decent postscript support or font management that doesn't go wonky every 20 minutes or color matching that actually works, then you're not going to go with Windows.

The design industry has standardized around Macs (don't believe it? Go pick up an industry magazine and look what design firms are using.) That means a lot of design software is either Mac-first or Mac-only. (And no, I'm not talking about Photoshop... but I am talking about Photoshop plug-ins and various other bits of design and production software written to work with Photoshop.) I've dealt with RIP systems that are OS X-only and design content systems that are Mac-preferred. In a month, I will be overseeing the installation of a RIP system that is Mac-only.

There's just no basis for claiming Windows is the preferred platform for graphic design work, either small or large scale.
 
I"m still hoping they will fix Quicktime X in 10.6 and not wait for 10.7. Realy I pretty much have to use Quicktime 7 for anything useful. Quicktime X is basically just used like quicklook for me, great for looking at something real quick but not much else.
 
arkmannj said:
I"m still hoping they will fix Quicktime X in 10.6 and not wait for 10.7. Realy I pretty much have to use Quicktime 7 for anything useful. Quicktime X is basically just used like quicklook for me, great for looking at something real quick but not much else.
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I'm sure they will. QT has always had it's own development and releases.
 
Any hopes of announcements at WWDC in June? My bet is we will have to wait until 2011 for a release date...
 
mr_matalino said:
Any hopes of announcements at WWDC in June? My bet is we will have to wait until 2011 for a release date...
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It's not too early for them to start sharing some info at next WWDC.

My predictions are the following,
WWDC 2010: Some basic info, like "we're working on the next gen OS X and we are excited by the progress we have made so far on it however we won't share any info this year and we expect to share more info by the end of the year. It's all about the iPhone OS 4.0 for this WWDC."

WWDC 2011: Definitely 10.7 focused.
 
mr_matalino said:
Any hopes of announcements at WWDC in June? My bet is we will have to wait until 2011 for a release date...
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Well, is there any value rehashing Snow Leopard at the next WWDC?
not really, I mean snow leopards was to lay foundation for new stuff.
It's not really worth talking about outside of training workshop for GCD or OpenCL or....

So we really should expect a developer preview of whats coming.
Well at least banner features and maybe a rough time frame for release.

I wonder if 10.7 and iPhone 4.0 will preview on the same day to signal they now are the same OS or will they do iPhone roadmap event about a month prior.
 
Parky said:
Really? Does your PowerMac not work anymore under 10.5? Did not installing Snow Leopard somehow disable / break your computer. Can it not do all the things it did before?
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Why yes, it works the same way my Commodore Amiga and C64 STILL works the way it used to.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hence my comments about how useful OS9 STILL is. It has that new Twitter client, after all! That certainly makes up for outdated browsers, e-mail and everything else on it! Actually, the day iTunes and/or Safari are not updated for it is the day it'll have to be replaced as it is my whole house server and 24/7 web terminal computer. Frankly, I'm suprised Safar and iTunes are still being updated for Tiger. Previous incarnations were dropped much sooner for Safari. Maybe Apple realized it looked really bad for them to support MUCH older versions of Windows than their own operating system. Meanwhile, you still won't get any H264 hardware acceleration under even Snow Leopard if your Mac is even 1 year old (like my MBP, which I don't want to replace any time soon given all the new MBPs have those horrible glossy screens, just for one thing). They want you to keep upgrading constantly. And yet the one Apple product I *am* waiting for new hardware for (i.e. Apple TV so I can get 1080P versions of movies instead of 720P at lower rates) gets no hardware updates at all and is STILL running off Tiger.

Toe said:
The OS for the rest of u... awwww, what a cute kitty!
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When they get to 10.8, they can call it Octopussy. :D
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
When they get to 10.8, they can call it Octopussy. :D
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That was a great one! :cool:

octopussy.jpg
 
WardC said:
I am ready for Mac OS ELEVEN! I can't wait until they completely overhaul the OS again, like they did with Mac OS 8, or with Mac OS X over OS 9. Something completely different, something completely new. We have been stuck with the same practical OS for almost 10 years now! Well, I guess if something works, you don't fix it? Seems to be Apple's Philosophy...stay with OS X as long as they can, they have something stable here.
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The problem with most people talking about a completely new OS is that in fact they're referring to a completely new GUI. I mean, do you really think that Apple will come up with a completely new underlying OS to replace Unix, an OS that has been developed world-wide over decades?
 
inkswamp said:
With the Windows example, you don't have to be explicitly connected to the server and share in question. If you're in a managed environment (e.g., Active Directory) the system checks to see if you can have access to the server then puts you there with no connecting to any shares or mounting of drives. It's effortless.

On the Mac, you have the intermediate step of mounting the drive. Also, you can't specify a path in the command+K window. Just the server and share. Then you have to dig your way down to it. Clunky and prone to error.
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Macs have automount, so I don't understand why what you want doesn't work. When I first used automount on Solaris (automount was originally developed at Sun Microsystems) you could do things like "cd /mountpoint/machinename/path" and if "machinename" was exporting a directory along path for which you had permission to mount the cd would complete normally. They had automatic timeouts which would unmount if no process was accessing the remote filesystem. This was most commonly used to export filesystems anywhere in Sun, where the expedient of having your home directory at /home/user meant you could log in on any machine and have your full home directory available.
 
MorphingDragon said:
Why dont Apple just buy the source code for VLC and rename it QuicktimeX. Not only will it play every format known to man but Apple will get all the credit for it. :rolleyes:
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Thank god they can't.
Might be better if they just included (and contributed to) vlc/ffdshow/whatever and gave up with this rubbish.
 
Lion, Cougar or Kitten (or something else)

Wow, a software/computer company is working on the next OS? Who would have thought?

It must be called Lion or Leo, before they rest OS X. Lynx is out of question, it sounds too close to another OS. Cougar would be too 'milfish'. I bet that Cougar would come with the most developed privacy services. Safari would automatically turn on private browsing if you started typing "mature sl...". :cool:

Or, perhaps after a new OS, (Snow Leopard) - which is closer to being a service pack than a whole new OS - a new generation OS (XI or 11) might come out. Call the first one Dolphin, everybody loves them! There's plenty of fish (or mammals) in the sea!
 
It would not surprise me if SL had a short life span with it only being a under the hood version and the price being low

just my $0.02 worth no solid info just a gut feeling
 
kernkraft said:
Or, perhaps after a new OS, (Snow Leopard) - which is closer to being a service pack than a whole new OS, a new generation - OS XI or 11 might come out. Call the first one Dolphin, everybody loves them! There's plenty of fish (or mammals) in the sea!
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I always know who to ignore based on whether they say SL and "service pack" in the same sentence.
 
News just in: OS 10.7 is entitled "Def Leppard." The newest and most advanced operating system in the "big cat" naming scheme.
 
inkswamp said:
But Unix != OS X.

I've done professional design work on Macs and Windows in a production environment and I've supported designers for prepress and design work, and I can tell you without any fear of contradiction that Windows gets its ass handed to it.

Yes, you can do mom-n-pop type design stuff on either platform just fine, but if you need decent postscript support or font management that doesn't go wonky every 20 minutes or color matching that actually works, then you're not going to go with Windows.

The design industry has standardized around Macs (don't believe it? Go pick up an industry magazine and look what design firms are using.) That means a lot of design software is either Mac-first or Mac-only. (And no, I'm not talking about Photoshop... but I am talking about Photoshop plug-ins and various other bits of design and production software written to work with Photoshop.) I've dealt with RIP systems that are OS X-only and design content systems that are Mac-preferred. In a month, I will be overseeing the installation of a RIP system that is Mac-only.

There's just no basis for claiming Windows is the preferred platform for graphic design work, either small or large scale.
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Wow, this is relaly intersting stuff. I mean, it makes sense seeing as apple probably has already started 11 development at least in some form.
 
kernkraft said:
Wow, a software/computer company is working on the next OS? Who would have thought?

It must be called Lion or Leo, before they rest OS X. Lynx is out of question, it sounds too close to another OS. Cougar would be too 'milfish'. I bet that Cougar would come with the most developed privacy services.
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Screw "Lion or Leo" I want OSX Sabertooth.
 
kernkraft said:
It must be called Lion or Leo, before they rest OS X.
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As big cats go, lions are big, bloated, and relatively slow. Not the image you want in an OS. :rolleyes:

Or, perhaps after a new OS, (Snow Leopard) - which is closer to being a service pack than a whole new OS, a new generation - OS XI or 11 might come out.
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I can't understand the desire for a completely new OS. Do you know how much development that would take (when something like Snow Leopard took 22 months)? Do you know how many bugs would be generated? Do you really want the Vista experience on your Mac?
 
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