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Neither does the opposite. I know. No thats completly wrong, i dont hate anybody by denying theyr sexual orientation, this is why i said, they can do whatever they want outside our church, but sincerly in our church gay marriage wont be allowed because of sin cant be allowed in church of god. But as i said again, they can of course mary elsewere and as long as they dont touch me, i dont touch them and i dont hate them in anyway.But they have to respect and know that religion has nothing to do with theyr carnal ways and body or earthly thinking.
Nothing is horrible here, i dont know why is horrible to you, but i dont share your toughts in this.
Completly wrong, nobody is forced to belief in god, they have a free will, nobody is controlled, any christian is in control of himself against his sins and try to overcome them. No psychological control at all. Its my pure will to be so. No they dont lie tome, because they are me and i am them, of the same blood, you are accuseing my people here and try to convince a blood of theyr own and christ is my blood too, by the way. And of course tehy are real, all things happened infront of our eyes and we have been testimonies of it. And of course it can be prooven, but its only gods right to proove himself, but it will be late for you by then, but i pray for you my friend.
Of course you are an extremist too that way, cause your military bombed alot of lands and had done alot of harm, consider that as extremism, cause your military have allready shown how extreme you are and misleading you todo evil. And i of cousre know what it means dont worry about that. I am not forceing nobody to believe in what i say, but i believe as i think its correct and as my foreelders teached me and also those who dont believe so have to respect that aswell, as i do respect them, so if my people tecah me what an antichrist is, it sure it and its not a lie. Religious organisation do not deny any rights outside them, because even satan will have righst on earth and even you are free to defend his rights too, but life is short:)
Thats not exactly truth, faith is also based on things that really happened, but its better to believe in the unseen and unknown, to make it known, thats also truth. I do not admit anything here, this is your viewpoint, not mine. Correct! Wrong, you cant say its not real, you dont know it, nor can you proove what real and unreal. Thats a false statement, my belief is not blind, but yours infact and i have the right to spread my belief as i wish and you have no right to break it and exactly this what you said here is infact extremism and brainwashing you do to people, as you are against free speech, my free speech, what kind of freedom are you defending?If you defend freedom, you should not be onesided my friend.Yes i dont need to proove anything, because i have no right todo so, and others have not right too, since god have right only byelf to proove himself, so who are you to judge god? And yes they have free will todo what they want and i have free will todo what i want!

I'm not even going to bother replying again if you choose to reply to this, because quite frankly, reading what you write is worthy of provoking headaches.

But I'll tell you this much, the day you can prove the existence of a higher being, then I'll be glad to talk about it. Until then, this is the equivalent of arguing with a 5 year old who is trying to convince me of the monster that lives under his bed.
 
You mean the one where you started bringing up quotes from the bible? I ignored it because I don't care what the bible says. Why would I? It's a collection of stories, some based on fact, others not, from various authors at various points in history. I find it funny when people try and quote Jesus from the bible when Jesus didn't even speak English. You're relying on a story written years after Jesus apparently died by someone who probably never met him, translated several times.

Sorry, but bible quotes are a non-starter for me and I'm guessing a lot of other people.

GREEN4U quote something from Oprah or Obama or Steve Jobs and maybe we'll listen :)
 
I'm not even going to bother replying again if you choose to reply to this, because quite frankly, reading what you write is worthy of provoking headaches.

But I'll tell you this much, the day you can prove the existence of a higher being, then I'll be glad to talk about it. Until then, this is the equivalent of arguing with a 5 year old who is trying to convince me of the monster that lives under his bed.
You dont want proofs, because only god can proof you this, but you dont want it, because you dont believe in him, you cant get a proof without a belief. God knows his sheeps, dont worry, i dont want bother with you anymore too, you causeing headache too. Peace be with you(Fushun Ba Shlomo)
 
You dont want proofs, because only god can proof you this, but you dont want it, because you dont believe in him, you cant get a proof without a belief. God knows his sheeps, dont worry, i dont want bother with you anymore too, you causeing headache too. Peace be with you(Fushun Ba Shlomo)

I remember my philosophy class in college about 1000 years ago, when we were discussing all of the classic arguments for and against the existence of God.

My favorite "in favor" argument goes something like:

"If you don't believe in God, it is because you don't understand the definition of God. If you did, then you would believe in God."

'Gotta love the subtle logic there.
 
I remember my philosophy class in college about 1000 years ago, when we were discussing all of the classic arguments for and against the existence of God.

My favorite "in favor" argument goes something like:

"If you don't believe in God, it is because you don't understand the definition of God. If you did, then you would believe in God."

'Gotta love the subtle logic there.

Nono my friend, not because of that, not even believers are all allowed to get proofs, you need a certainly deeper belief a prooved clean belief like a dove and a strong spirith. You need a spiritual understanding and a clean devotion, to get a proof.
 
You dont want proofs, because only god can proof you this, but you dont want it, because you dont believe in him, you cant get a proof without a belief. God knows his sheeps, dont worry, i dont want bother with you anymore too, you causeing headache too. Peace be with you(Fushun Ba Shlomo)

Proof without a belief? That's rather convenient. In fact it is, as I pointed out in the "do you believe in god" thread, the biggest problem with all religions. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, and others all believe just as strongly in their faith. They all think that they are right and everyone else is wrong. So belief frankly means nothing.
 
Nono my friend, not because of that, not even believers are all allowed to get proofs, you need a cetrainly deeper belief a prooved clean belief like a dove and a strong spirith. You need a spiritual understanding and a clean devotion, to get a proof.

I understand each of the words in your response individually, but when put together in the sequence you supplied, it just makes absolutely no sense at all. In fact, my head hurts after reading through it the second time.
 
Proof without a belief? That's rather convenient.
Infact belief is not just a word, its a motorical sense of beeing like a magnet to the unknown. If you are not like that, even the believing as a word wont make you get any proof.
In fact it is, as I pointed out in the "do you believe in god" thread,
Dont know that thrad but its your opinion, i dont think so.
the biggest problem with all religions. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, and others all believe just as strongly in their faith.
They do, but many ways guide you to rome, don't worry.
They all think that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Well it depends, there are also similarities between them.
So belief frankly means nothing.
to you yes, not to me, to me it is my life my heart my soul my mind my everything!

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I understand each of the words in your response individually, but when put together in the sequence you supplied, it just makes absolutely no sense at all. In fact, my head hurts after reading through it the second time.
Well if it was not for you, why do you reply?It was infact not meant to hurt, but it hurts you, because you are against the truth, thats why.
 
Infact belief is not just a word, its a motorical sense of beeing like a magnet to the unknown.

If you are not like that, even the believing as a word wont make you get any proof.

Dont know that thrad but its your opinion, i dont think so.

They do, but many ways guide you to rome, don't worry.

Well it depends, there are also similarities between them.

to you yes, not to me, to me it is my life my heart my soul my mind my everything!
Similarities? There literally is no god in Buddism. Hindus believe in many, MANY gods. And Jews, while technically believing in the same god, find the idea that "Jesus is God", "the son of God", or even anything of religious significance whatsoever to be absurd and perhaps even a bit blasphemous.
 
this is just silly

whats important is we deny Gingers the right to Vote as they have no soul

I am sure you all agree:cool:
 
I don't see why pro-gay marriage advocates don't back me up on polygamy, bigamy, public nudity and sex in the streets! Two men and two women why not two men and a woman or two women and a man? Or one man married to a man and a woman but in different marriages? If they are consenting adults why not?

As far as public nudity and sex in public, I don't see how it is any different than showing it in the media which they already do anyway. You have the option to look away or change the channel. It doesn't affect your life.

I'm a straight person and I ask where are my rights to do these things??? Discrimination!!!

Too much stupidity in one post to even begin breaking it down.
 
Similarities? There literally is no god in Buddism. Hindus believe in many, MANY gods.
True but there are some phrases similar to what jesus said.
And Jews, while technically believing in the same god, find the idea that "Jesus is God", "the son of God", or even anything of religious significance whatsoever to be absurd and perhaps even a bit blasphemous.
Also true, but still we have the same god and altought they deny jesus, some can be very kind and lovely, i know some, and they never opposite to me, when it comes to friendship and understanding. And you forget that christians are jews too. So beside that, that they deny jesus, not all deny jesus, not the christian ones.
 
Im glad the majority of people are in favour of gay marriage in the UK. A rare thing to be proud of over here!
 
Too much stupidity in one post to even begin breaking it down.

Just because its uncomfortable for you should not mean that we should deny people the rights to do what they please. I don't see how you could make a case against what I'm suggesting and be in favor of gay marriage at the same time. You can't pick and choose your freedoms.
 
Just because its uncomfortable for you should not mean that we should deny people the rights to do what they please. I don't see how you could make a case against what I'm suggesting and be in favor of gay marriage at the same time. You can't pick and choose your freedoms.

I really hope your not being serious?
 
You mean the one where you started bringing up quotes from the bible? I ignored it because I don't care what the bible says. Why would I? It's a collection of stories, some based on fact, others not, from various authors at various points in history. I find it funny when people try and quote Jesus from the bible when Jesus didn't even speak English. You're relying on a story written years after Jesus apparently died by someone who probably never met him, translated several times.

Sorry, but bible quotes are a non-starter for me and I'm guessing a lot of other people.

Then for your sake I'll stop quoting scripture and paraphrase, haha. Where do I even start?

If you actually read the Bible you'd understand what it is about, you'd know the characters and then you'd believe that they knew Jesus. This is basic theology. Above all else, the writers of the Bible had nothing personal to gain from their spread of the gospel and were persecuted for believing it (a similar scorn faced by modern day Christians but to a lesser extent). Take Paul for example, when he was stuck in prison in Corinth did he pray to God that he'd be rescued? No, he prayed he'd still find ways to evangelize nonbelievers despite his situation. Or what about Nicodemus? The highly respected Jewish teacher who questioned Jesus, eventually turned his faith and lost everything for doing so. These are testaments to the faith of believers.
 
True but there are some phrases similar to what jesus said. Also true, but still we have the same god and altought they deny jesus, some can be very kind and lovely, i know some, and they never opposite to me, when it comes to friendship and understanding. And you forget that christians are jews too. So beside that, that they deny jesus, not all deny jesus, not the christian ones.

Okay, no. You are not a Jew unless your mother is Jewish.. as mine is incidentally... or you otherwise undergo the extremely involved convertion process. Most Christians are therefor not recognized as Jewish.
 
I still love apple, beside what they did, but i think they did it in political reason. A tech company is a tech company and i love theyr products.
 
I really hope your not being serious?

I see a lot of people saying things like you, but no one challenging him with the power of words or logic.

How about you discuss what he is proposing and answer his question.

To NOT do that makes you seem like you have no answer to his logic.

Is this true?
 
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