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Where was the hype? Everyone was saying they were going to announce the Mac x86 or something like that, but after reading the article, Apple was not even mentioned in his speech. Who knows maybe Apple is actually going to go with the PowerPC 970 next year and are helping spread rumors like the AMD one, just to keep us all off base, who knows, they must know about places like this.

The way everyone sounded on here I was almost sure this was the big deal and just like that poof Apple was going to be an x86 PC. Who knows, maybe the PowerPC will live on...
 
You guys are really naive!!

What did you expect??Apple announcing that they are switching to AMD??If they announce anything like that,then they will do that in January.
 
yeesh

Apple teaming up with AMD? I never thought that would happen....although it would be shocking and interesting and what not.

BUT - I was anxious to hear some "earth-shattering" news from AMD about *something.*

Keynotes are such a letdown. And Ruiz probably didn't even wear a black mock turtleneck. :p
 
Originally posted by Dave K


Because the PPC is meant to be an embedded processor. Thus, the end user is responsible for packaging the chip into the format they need it in.

So, as near as I can tell from the PowerMacs I've worked on, Apple takes the finished chips from Moto and then puts them on their own private board/package so they can use the same motherboard in each machine and simply swap out the board/ package with the proper speed for the order coming down the line. If I recall correctly from the guy a while back who overclocked his 867 to 1Ghz, all the speed settings are hard soldered on that board/package.

I believe most of your comments are correct but it has nothing to do with the PPC meant to be an embedded processor. That is just the solution Apple felt was best.
 
So what. we will hopefully have a 64bit PPC chip in our computers by the end of next year. It will hopefully be faster (almost guarenteed) and have altivec or similar (almost guarenteed).

Macs dont need to have all that speed because our copmany puts the extra money we spend in hardware, into developing great software that isnt anywhere near as bloated as MS windblows. For that matter, a brand new install of linux by an idiot (mandrake) is also bloated.

If people would calm down and think rationally it would help. Apple may use AMDs in there computers. It would most likeley be a PPC chip much like the 970.

If AMD could supply it cheaper than it would probably go in the lower end machines with less speed.

This means everyone wins - Apple gets a good processor supplier; AMD gets another customer; Consumers get cheaper macs (hopefully)

what does everyone think about this outlook if apple started to use AMD chips??
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMD vs Microsoft

Originally posted by Blackcat
Microsoft makes a loss on servers, people just don't see Windows as a server OS - that's what AIX, Solaris and Linux are for.


You're talking the high end market, which is at most 10% of the market. Most servers are file servers or simple internal servers for businesses. ANd yes MS makes money of them. The problem is that the 5% that is high end, ie IRIX, AIX, Solaris, and HP-UX, makes 80% of the money in the server market. When you need to do a big job you go that way. Plus that's the area linux is hurting most because you can get solid linux servers for 5 -15k and cluster them.

Still not as stable/powerful as the big boxes.

Blah Blah Blah.

I don't forsee apple going back to CISC chips anytime soon anyway, especially with everyone going RISC.
 
AMD and Apple....

I kinda thought it would be strange for AMD to make the announcement of APPLE switching to AMD rather than APPLE making the announcement. (I really dont think that this will take place anytime soon).

BUT WHERE WAS THE SHOCKING NEWS?

It was all blah, blah, blah, refocus...customer.....64 bit.....oooohhh.....aaaahhhhhh...blah, blah, blah

Nothing that we didnt already know!!!!

Geeeeze!!!:mad: :eek: :confused:
 
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