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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMD vs Microsoft

Originally posted by Blackcat


Microsoft makes a loss on servers, people just don't see Windows as a server OS - that's what AIX, Solaris and Linux are for.

The Office market is locked up by Microsoft but Licensing 6.0 has made business think again. Currently Linux is the only possibility but isn't very user friendly. Apple has little business credibility now but a move to AMD would change that. Suddenly offices want Macs, and in turn XServes. Perhaps even open office on X.

MS needs the Windows/Office monopoly, it's the only area where they make money. They will defend it vigorously against any threat or percieved threat. Apple on AMD is one.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion but get your facts straight. This is straight from Computerwire after the recent court issues:

"The Server Platforms division - which includes the company's Windows server operating system, SQL Server, Exchange Server and Systems Management Server products as well as client access licenses, training, certification and support and consulting services - reported revenue of $1.6bn, up 13% from $1.4bn last year."

It goes on to report:

"The Client, Information Worker and Server Platforms divisions were responsible for 36.3%, 29.3% and 21% of Microsoft's revenue in the quarter respectively and were also the only Microsoft segments to record operating income, according to the company's own internal accounting methods.

According to these non-GAAP consolidated calculations, the Client division recorded operating income of $2.5bn on revenue of $2.9bn, the Information Worker division reported operating income of $1.9bn on revenue of $2.4bn, and the Server Platforms division recorded operating income of $519m on revenue of $1.5bn."

Unless they got it wrong straight from MS which I doubt I think you might want to make a note of this. In addition to this a number of people use the webserver and other IIS services included in Win2k Pro and WinXP Pro to run for their servers thus the number they cite isn't accurate in the grand scheme of things since those do not seem to be included in the server platform statistic.

To sum it up...MS does not make a loss on their servers. Again this is the area MS is interested in with AMD's 64 bit technology. Cheap and powerful...and they can't have linux beating them on that front. The Mac is irrelavent to them on that platform at this point.
 
AMD Website Poll

Here is a poll being currently conducted on the AMD website:

- Weekly Polls -
Next AMD Customer?
Is Apple or Dell more likely to be the next AMD customer?

Apple is really thinking different!
63.07%
Dude, Dell!
36.96% Number of votes: 2827
 
Re: Waiting's over

Originally posted by Hawthorne
The earth-shattering announcement?

Covalent and Red Hat will develop a 64-bit version of Apache. . Yawn. Well, not completely yawn, as that will mean good things for the Mac community in a year or so.

Honestly, the way everyone worked themselves into a semi-delusional fit believing $300 dual-hammer Macs were coming was ridiculous.

What date is on that article you linked?
What is today's date?
 
apache was announced yesterday

The apache annoucement was from yesterday we do not yet know the content of the keynote .
 
The comdex site says they will have stuff from the keynote, it's about over now, WHERE IS THE INFO?
 
Originally posted by agreenster
I cant find any way to get updates from the expo

Any clues?

I was wondering the same thing, even AMDZone hasn't updated their pages to reflect today's information.

Hopefully real soon now...
 
Mac OS X on x86 would be the beginning of the end of Microsoft. People already want to switch to Linux, but it is still too hard to use. It is only a good thing. People stop complaining. If Apple do not switich or make cheap Macs, I will probably go to Windows because I am fed up of being out of date computers.
 
Re: Waiting's over

Originally posted by Hawthorne
The earth-shattering announcement?

Covalent and Red Hat will develop a 64-bit version of Apache. . Yawn. Well, not completely yawn, as that will mean good things for the Mac community in a year or so.


Presumably that would be extremely useful for a 64bit MacOS X?

Honestly, the way everyone worked themselves into a semi-delusional fit believing $300 dual-hammer Macs were coming was ridiculous.

Absolutely.
x86 Macs are totally doable, but that doesn't mean it will happen. Or should.
 
When was the last time good news came out of Apple that everyone was happy with? It's been years. Much of the stuff that comes out of Apple now sounds good when they give you their pitch, but it looks bad when you look at the specs.
 
Originally posted by sturm375
I guess I am ignorant of the PPC world, why do you need to have a daughterboard for a processor?

Because the PPC is meant to be an embedded processor. Thus, the end user is responsible for packaging the chip into the format they need it in.

So, as near as I can tell from the PowerMacs I've worked on, Apple takes the finished chips from Moto and then puts them on their own private board/package so they can use the same motherboard in each machine and simply swap out the board/ package with the proper speed for the order coming down the line. If I recall correctly from the guy a while back who overclocked his 867 to 1Ghz, all the speed settings are hard soldered on that board/package.
 
Originally posted by hvfsl
Mac OS X on x86 would be the beginning of the end of Microsoft. People already want to switch to Linux, but it is still too hard to use. It is only a good thing. People stop complaining. If Apple do not switich or make cheap Macs, I will probably go to Windows because I am fed up of being out of date computers.

Yowsa... you're an out of date computer? Windows wont help you!!!
 
a theory

Due to the lack of updates let me propose wild inference #4. Our Doctor Ruiz is announcing something so wild and shocking that he is running way over time and everybody is far too transfixed by his speech to even think of giving us a hint... :eek:


Suspense is bad for my productivity :(
 
Re: Re: Waiting's over

Originally posted by gropo
Jebus.. I swear Apple has hired a team of people whose sole responsibility is to fill Apple rumor sites with as much noise as humanly possible......

This news came out the 17th.

Today is the 19th. You do the math
 
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