Apple and AT&T Preparing for iPhone 3.0 Launch

[RonD69]

Stereo Bluetooth

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!

 

[Thex1138]

So if this is correct and iPhone 3G S is iPhone2,1.... then what is iPhone3,1 in the OS 3.0 SDK ?
..if so then why should I buy the S model then?

Mind you I'll buy both if 3,1 has a flux capacitor...

 

[jhpadilla]

<<This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.>>

So does this imply that you shouldn't put 3.0 on the 2G? I was planning on leaving my 2G firmware as is on my 8 gig 2G anyway--it will be fun to compare the new features on the new phone to the old version--but I can't help but think 3.0 might be a little sluggish on a 4gig 2G?

Yes, it is implied.

And no, it will not be sluggish, though as any x.0 release it will be buggy, but not unbearably so I think (hope!).

 

[shawnce]

<<This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.>>

So does this imply that you shouldn't put 3.0 on the 2G?

No. Apple is making the 3.0 OS available for all iPhone models and iPod Touch models (later for a minor upgrade fee) that they have manufactured to date.

The new iPhone 3GS uses a different processor core and chipset then prior generation devices and as a result you shouldn't install the 3GS specific image of 3.0 OS X on the older devices since it may not contain all that the older devices needs.

 

[bytethese]

has anyone tried putting the 3G S firmware on their 3G?

No, since they have different hardware internally, why would someone do that unless it was for laughs.

 

[RonD69]

More surprise from Apple

So if this is correct and iPhone 3G S is iPhone2,1.... then what is iPhone3,1 in the OS 3.0 SDK ?

OOOOOO...a new device in time for the holiday shopping season?! (this is how rumors get started). LOL

 

[funkdaddy]

With the Find My iPhone/Wipe feature, they should have put in an option to lock the phone with a passcode remotely. Just set the passcode on the phone, then if it gets lost, lock it and send a message/find it. I know lots of people don't use the lock feature for convenience.

 

[coledog]

Has anyone else noticed that inside the camera app the 'view photos' button is just a grayish square? The button works, but it's not what it's supposed to look like.

 

[lukin]

Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone 3G S and iPhone 3G.

... so for original iPhone owners who still pay $20 which includes 200 text with no extra text package are we going to get bent over and have to pay for each MMS?

 

[hokka]

Has anyone else noticed that inside the camera app the 'view photos' button is just a grayish square? The button works, but it's not what it's supposed to look like.

Take a photo first, then you'll see the square is filled with "last" shot icon

 

[mmendoza27]

Had 3.0 GM on my iPhone 3G since Friday, MMS via Optus seems to work, the OS is still buggy, slowdown, unresponsive buttons, wierd freezes (Safari, had to force restart) and weird crashes (3rd party apps - Darkroom for example), transition into search screen isn't all that smooth.

I also tested Find my iPhone, it sort of works in Sydney, the message I tested took almost an hour to get to the phone, when I tried to find it on the map, it showed up the last place I lived - from 3 months ago! How could that be? It did eventually work but Mobile Me seems not very acurate in that it says the phone is "Offline" when it's next to me and not turned off, strange! Also while it said "offline" (the light under the phone becomes greyed out, same as MacRumors' forum lights) then you can't make it look for the phone, I wonder WHEN does it become "offline"? And say if the thief switches the phone off, will it be offline or what? need more clarification.

I hope later this week when they release the final version will have all these issues resolved. Also be aware to activate Find My iPhone you HAVE to activate Mobile Me's email account and turn Push Notification on you iPhone, for me that has a large data plan it's okay, but if you only have a puny 500MB plan then I'd becareful if you don't wish to go over and having another email account on my phone (I have 3 already) can be a bit of pain, back and forth, know what I mean?

Anyone else had similar experience?

This is the final version. It's the Gold Master, which means this is the candidate that will be released on Wednesday. I've been using the 3.0 since Day 1 and it's A LOT more stable. Apps didn't work, apps would crash, there were GUI inconsistencies, etc. Plus, expect a lot of 3rd party apps to release updates to their apps, making them 3.0 compatible.

I'd honestly recommend possibly restoring on Wednesday (or now, don't matter) and not restoring from backup. That should probably fix a lot of your issues. If it doesn't you may want to take your iPhone to a local Apple store.

 

[Max E Verde]

Thanks for that, I've just tested again, same thing in the beginning, it defaults to where I used to live 3 months ago, while it says "refining searches, this may take up to 3 minutes" it took 2-3 minutes to finally located it, so i think it maybe (wireless) network related? or provider related? This is Australia after all, 20million people on an island the size of US and 3 carriers all sell iPhones, so they don't need try very hard

Oh, I was on Wi-Fi when I checked it before. I just tested it on 3G and it's practically as fast. Maybe Apple hasn't optimized it for the carriers in Australia yet? I bet it's actually harder for Apple with more carriers as they have to optimize it for different settings

Has anyone else noticed that inside the camera app the 'view photos' button is just a grayish square? The button works, but it's not what it's supposed to look like.

It is a greyish (or possibly black, I haven't seen it since beta 1) square until you take your first photo. An animation puts the photo you took into that square. Your last photo will always be in there

 

[NinjaHERO]

The iPhone 3.0 re-download charging message has been removed and was a bug according to AppAdvice. Re-downloading apps in 3.0 should be the same as the current firmware ( which means free).

This is good to hear. I really didn't want to have to plug into my computer everytime I reload a paid app. Silly bugs.

 

[wheezy]

ATT better be preparing, with no MMS and tethering support from the shoot it's like they learned about the 3G S at the WWDC like we did. I wish that they're blatant slacking off would be considered a contract violation so Apple could drop them and move on to carriers that get stuff done. And don't charge you an arm and a leg for everything (just an arm will do)

At first people complained about the initial price point of the iPhone, but at the rate ATT goes, it'll cost more than that every month just to use it. Granted, this is a use it all day setup:

Unlimited Minutes: $99
Unlimited Date $30
Unlimited Texting $20
Tethering $39 (just a guess)

= $180/month. Are you kidding me? The tethering is a wild guess, but I wouldn't hold it past them. They treat data like it's an endangered resource.

 

[bytethese]

... so for original iPhone owners who still pay $20 which includes 200 text with no extra text package are we going to get bent over and have to pay for each MMS?

Nope, I think you misread. If you update your phone to 3.0, it can now handle MMS and will be billed as a text message. Since your plan includes 200 texts, I would think you would have this as well.

The rest of us have to pay extra for a text plan.

 

[spazzcat]

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!

I been using it with Ford Sync since beta 1. It works good. It may break up once in a while. And every now and then it doesn't stop playing when you turn off the car.

 

[funkdaddy]

Nope, I think you misread. If you update your phone to 3.0, it can now handle MMS and will be billed as a text message. Since your plan includes 200 texts, I would think you would have this as well.

The rest of us have to pay extra for a text plan.

I'm not so sure about that. I heard the MMS is only available on the 3G/S. Supposedly, the radio in 1st Gen doesn't support it. Can anyone confirm with the GM firmware on an original iPhone that they have the option to send MMS?

 

[phillipjfry]

Wherever you've got data; you've got push.

Yea but does this mean that GMail will push in the Mail app? Or am i still forced to wait the 15 minute cycle before my phone checks for new mail?

 

[ghostface147]

Guess I need to have an app that supports push to get that option in settings.

 

[ghostface147]

I'm not so sure about that. I heard the MMS is only available on the 3G/S. Supposedly, the radio in 1st Gen doesn't support it. Can anyone confirm with the GM firmware on an original iPhone that they have the option to send MMS?

That is correct, 1st gen doesn't support MMS. That was mentioned at Macworld 09.

 

[jclardy]

Yeah, I have been using the bluetooth on my 2G iPod Touch to connect to my Sony BT-2600 stereo and it works great, other than not being able to switch songs with the faceplate controls. I'm hoping they add that in later...(Or at least on the 3G S that i'm getting )

 

[bytethese]

I'm not so sure about that. I heard the MMS is only available on the 3G/S. Supposedly, the radio in 1st Gen doesn't support it. Can anyone confirm with the GM firmware on an original iPhone that they have the option to send MMS?

It would have nothing to do with the radio actually. The only reason I could see it not doing MMS is if Apple did not want it to since it can only handle EDGE speeds and if their implementation uses better quality photos then it would be extremely slow on an original iPhone. Although Apple's implementation may be similar to emailing a photo, the app scales down the pic automagically.

 

[frabber]

regarding tethering

I think t-mobile netherlands is going down the same path, providing tethering later as an addon (read additional cost).

I am a little bit puzzled by all this since with my current mobile, a Nokia e61, I can provide tethering for my macbook through t-mobile already (for years actually)...

I am not too sure if I want to "upgrade" to an iphone...

 

[hokka]

...I'd honestly recommend possibly restoring on Wednesday (or now, don't matter) and not restoring from backup. That should probably fix a lot of your issues. If it doesn't you may want to take your iPhone to a local Apple store.

For some reason I can't restore not from a back up as it gives me an error"Can not find resources", I've tried a]. clean restore then manual restore from a back-up, b]. to put the GM ipsw into the iPhone Software Updates folder (and restarted iTunes) but it still does not recognise (or allow), so I'm restoring via "option" key and have to restore from back up again, maybe when it's officially released then I'll try again

 

[stagi]

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!

It is not fully working for me in my car (although I don't know if maybe my car bluetooth system will support it or not?) I can't get music to play at all but my voicemail's which used to only play through the iPhone or iPhone speakerphone now do play through the stereo which is nice.
I was really hoping to play my iTunes through the bluetooth connection but no luck so far.