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Yes, I remember how the Blackberry and Treo guys were making fun of iPhone..PC guys will never figure it out, they said. Where are now BB and Treo..

All these replies to my post and not one explaining how <cough> iOS is "killing it" in the enterprise market. And no... checking your email with the mail app is not "enterprise" work. For god's sake, it's taken Apple 9 versions just so we can perform multiple attachments.
 
Both companies make decent wifi routers already. What specifically are you looking for?
I will like a switch from apple....PoE better...because apple produce 2 routers...I need to buy them from other sources; like cisco. Just an example of the possibilities.
 
All these replies to my post and not one explaining how <cough> iOS is "killing it" in the enterprise market. And no... checking your email with the mail app is not "enterprise" work. For god's sake, it's taken Apple 9 versions just so we can perform multiple attachments.
What's more is that most Enterprises have moved to Web based apps so a PC or Mac is almost interchangeable because the browser support is the same. So besides the GUI and form factor, not much difference in user experience.

Hell, even the chips, RAM, and SSD are the same.
 
Cisco is pretty much the industrial strength networks themselves.
It comes after Google wanted to reform wi-fi.
I guess its move against Google monopolizing new wi-fi standards.
Even more, it makes iOS a preferred choice among industrial strength/corporate network client because Cisco hardware and software will be seamlessly working with Apple products.
Excellent news.
 
Cisco is pretty much the industrial strength networks themselves.
It comes after Google wanted to reform wi-fi.
I guess its move against Google monopolizing new wi-fi standards.
Even more, it makes iOS a preferred choice among industrial strength/corporate network client because Cisco hardware and software will be seamlessly working with Apple products.
Excellent news.
No way. WiFi is based on open standards across multiple vendors, not just Cisco or Apple. They're may be some Cisco specific optimizations but even the WiFi chips in Apple devices are off the shelf, not Apple specific.

As for Google, they were interested in the service not the hardware.

As I said before, this is a Cisco maneuver against Microsoft UC.
 
Yes, I remember how the Blackberry and Treo guys were making fun of iPhone..PC guys will never figure it out, they said. Where are now BB and Treo..

Don't forget MS. Balmer really screwed that up.

Glad to see someone forged ahead with their vision of mobile. It's (IMO) very telling that so many others can't even follow the leader. How hard is it to play "monkey see, monkey do". Esp BB, they had the tiger by the tail once.
 
What's more is that most Enterprises have moved to Web based apps so a PC or Mac is almost interchangeable because the browser support is the same. So besides the GUI and form factor, not much difference in user experience..
You are off track. This thread is about iOS, not macs vs. PC's. iPads are not even in the same realm with regard to the Enterprise market. But of course... they are "killing it". lol.
 
You are off track. This thread is about iOS, not macs vs. PC's. iPads are not even in the same realm with regard to the Enterprise market. But of course... they are "killing it". lol.
Agreed. The extent of iOS in the Enterprise is because of Microsoft adding the Exchange profile and Cisco adding VPN.
 
Agreed. The extent of iOS in the Enterprise is because of Microsoft adding the Exchange profile and Cisco adding VPN.

The reason iOS is in the Enterprise is because BYOD happened. Because Blackberry/Windows Mobile had such ****** UX that nobody in their right minds wanted to use it for both work and home...Microsoft didn't add an Exchange profile to iOS, the PIM experience in iOS is completely unique and Exchange merely meets the standard. Cisco didn't invent the VPN and they certainly aren't the only Enterprise VPN solution out there...
 
What worries me is that this probably means we will not see any changes happening to iOS any time soon. I believe iOS outlived its purpose and currently it feels like its OS 9 in 2002 especially on the iPad.
 
its impressive how much Apple has moved itself into the BYOD, especially for handsets. they really took advantage of Blackberries blundering.

But Apple still has a long way to go. In true enterprise, they're almost non-existent. Work in a trillion+ dollar industry (banking), and Apple has 0 impact outside people getting their emails on their phones.

99% of all banking software platforms are Windows / Linux only. (not talking about front end user apps which are predominantly HTML5 based)

Obviously industry to industry will vary, But Aside from basic use, Apple has never really gone after deep enterprise integration, and even backed out of it completely from the back end when they killed off the xserve

I agree with you on the Mac front. Even in my company, where people literally get to choose their platforms (and most people choose Macs), a Mac user has to make do with a mix of Outlook, web-based apps, and Fusion. On iOS, it's quite different, as Apple has had mindshare in mobile applications since the first iPhone.

I do expect the IBM relationship to have a huge impact on the Mac front, in addition to the trend toward web-based applications.

Mobile gets the benefit that when it really started to take off, they more or less came to a few standards that allowed for more open and cross platform support. Just about any device you buy now can get access to email from almost any back end server, regardless if the server is Microsoft, Un*x or the like. This was a great boon for Apple as people were able to pick the device that they wanted and have it supported.

Unfortunately, This isn't how things work in the rest of Corporate. Especially in regards to proprietary applications. Many large corporations and enterprises run very proprietary software, or, heavily modified open platforms. For Example, Microsoft Great Plains is a heavily modifiable, and customizable Accounting and finance platform. Guess what, it will only run on MIcrosoft. our Platform for example uses a very particular runtime that will only run Windows or Unix only.

To be fair, these industries aren't using any modern update of any OS, Windows included. You hit the nail on the head with custom applications and platforms. These industries can't even upgrade to a newer version of the same operating system in many cases because they are prisoners to customized solutions laid upon a foundation completely reliant on outrageously outdated operating systems, with no way to fix them without doing a complete overhaul from scratch. Most of the world's finance and banking industries are still running on proprietary platforms based on DOS, believe it or not, mostly because the cost of creating a new solution running on a modern, open, OS independent platform simply isn't feasible, not to mention the potential risk of security breach or data loss during a data migration on these scales. These infrastructures won't be updated until they are forced to be. These industries are behemoths that take decades to change directions, even after you have the rudder att full lock in the opposite direction. I mean a lot of these systems are relatively unchanged for 40+ years!!

Regardless, it has little to do with Apple's inability to penetrate there, on a user level they have penetrated quite well, with their hardware at least. PC users in these industries will tell you, they definitely aren't running Windows 10 on their machines, not Windows 8 either. Not for their work at least. Lots and lots of them are having to run a network session inside Windows on a remote user desktop on some old or ancient form of Windows Server as well. Mac users just have to use a VM to access the same thing.
 
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