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Apple and EMI Music Launch 'iTunes Pass' Short-Term Subscriptions

Dear, some people can't read. Some know nothing about music and nothing about marketing either.

This is a very simple scheme, but you have to know one thing first: dM is one of the biggest bands out there selling over 100 Million albums. They don't always have chart No 1, but slow burn and sell, sell and sell. That's why Apple chose dM to launch this, why dM were the 4th band to have the special Discography treatment and why Apple launched its tie up with Ticketmaster in 2005 with the band. Just because it didn't cross your radar, don't flame it. And actually, while we're at it, dM sold more albums in the 90s and 00s than 80s, more than Bowie and their football stadium tour of Europe sold out... last November with the tour not kicking off until May! That's a fanatical fan base. The US dates announced last week are going equally as fast.

So, is this a decent deal? Actually it isn't bad. The band are getting cash up front, two months before the album launch and publicity for it. Apple are putting up material from the range of releases of the new album, which would only be all available (with extras to spare) in physical format if you bought the Deluxe version of the up-coming album, expected to sell at $95 (similar to U2's Deluxe package.... I guess some of you might have heard of them?)

Personally, even as a big fan I'm going to wait for the physical version, but this will sell well for the band and is quite reasonably priced.

As for criticising people who go out and buy things on the first day without knowing exactly what they are getting.... I think some on here have experience of doing exactly that with iPhones that cost considerably more than $18.99!
 
If I buy the album for $9.99 or whatever it costs on the US version of iTMS, and then watch the rest of the videos on YouTube, isn't that basically the same shizz? They're giving you the album, a bunch of remixes that may not even be worth $0.99 per track (I find remixes rarely are), and then content that you'd normally be able to get off MySpace, except they have an arrangement where you now pay for it. :confused:


I know that big fans of the band get to see exclusive videos 1 or 2 months before they're released to the general, but I guess you'd have to be pretty desperate to see the new DM videos for it to be worth it. I'm not one of those, so even if I wanted the new DM album, I'd just pay regular price.
 
OllyW said:
This line maybe?

........plus great music and video exclusives before and after the album's release over the next fifteen weeks.
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Are we really to believe the the record company will product material to be sold
exclusively to iTunes Pass holders? If they do it will be something VERY in-expensive to produce like a studio out-take or the like.

At any rate you are buying on faith, paying in advance for something you don't know about. But then it's not a lot of money either and gabling is fun for some people. So what the heck the absolute worst case is you lose $20.
 
This is awesome!

This news warmed my heart as it unites two of the things I care about most in the world: Depeche Mode and Apple. Bought the package without a second thought. DM typically release at least 4 singles, 4 videos, 4-5 b-sides, and 60+ remixes with each album. It wasn't clear in the announcement if those are part of the package but even if a tenth of it made it, the ROI would be positive. And best of all, iTunes will email you when the new releases are up on the store ahead of general release date and automatically download everything.

I am a huge fan and this is perfectly tailored to the likes of me.
 
Wow...

I don't want to flame or anything...

But some people really need to learn how to read and think before they post.:confused:

Just goes to show that owners of MBPs aren't necessarily "pro"..even with something as basic at reading comprehension. GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!:p
 
ChrisA said:
Are we really to believe the the record company will product material to be sold
exclusively to iTunes Pass holders? If they do it will be something VERY in-expensive to produce like a studio out-take or the like.

At any rate you are buying on faith, paying in advance for something you don't know about. But then it's not a lot of money either and gabling is fun for some people. So what the heck the absolute worst case is you lose $20.
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Actually iTunes and Depeche has done this twice before and they were exclusives.
 
miggitymac said:
Wow...

I don't want to flame or anything...

But some people really need to learn how to read and think before they post.:confused:

Just goes to show that owners of MBPs aren't necessarily "pro"..even with something as basic at reading comprehension. GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!:p
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Absolutely. Explains a lot about some of the moronic replies on the forums.
 
mave1969 said:
...for a forum on a supposed tech website, with supposedly tech-savvy readers, you donkeys have stuffed an awful lot of stupid into a very small space.

I can't even begin to start correcting all the ass-hattery on display here without getting a nosebleed and having to go lie down for a bit.
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The winner!

Mods: PLEASE closed this thread (seriously Mave1969 your reply is bloody ace and sums up the vast majority of 'replies' on this thread).
 
lftrghtparadigm said:
Even my favorite band couldn't put out enough music frequently enough to make this worth while.
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Look, it's $18, you get a full album, all the singles, all the B sides, all the remixes and a few videos, including documentaries and in-studio performances.

Bands have been releasing Special Edition CD/DVD combos for years at double the price. This is just the iTunes equivalent.

The word Pass seems to have flummoxed some and fried the brains of others.

Just think of it as a TV Season pass for a band. Now maybe you'd want to wait for the DVD, that's fine, but some don't and iTunes is trying to make money!

Most bands now release albums, singles, promo videos, EPKs and remixes. Unless your favourite band is Blue Nile, I couldn't see how you can make that statement. (Normallly I would have included Peter Gabriel, but he's been on a releasing splurge recently, and the last Kate Bush album was a double!)
 
What USD20 gives you

CD 1 - Sounds Of The Universe
1. In Chains
2. Hole To Feed
3. Wrong
4. Fragile Tension
5. Little Soul
6. In Sympathy
7. Peace
8. Come Back
9. Spacewalker
10. Perfect
11. Miles Away / The Truth Is
12. Jezebel
13. Corrupt

CD 2
Bonus tracks
1. Light
2. The Sun And The Moon And The Stars
3. Ghost
4. Esque
5. Oh Well

Remixes
6. Corrupt - Efdemin Remix
7. In Chains - Minilogue's Earth Remix
8. Little Soul - Thomas Fehlmann Flowing Ambient Mix
9. Jezebel - SixToes Remix
10. Perfect - Electronic Periodic Dark Drone Mix
11. Wrong - Caspa Remix

CD 3
Demos
1. Little 15
2. Clean
3. Sweetest Perfection
4. Walking In My Shoes
5. I Feel You
6. Judas
7. Surrender
8. Only When I Lose Myself
9. Nothing's Impossible
10. Corrupt
11. Peace
12. Jezebel
13. Come Back
14. In Chains

DVD
Video
Making The Universe / Film (45.23)
Usual Thing, Try And Get The Question In The Answer (55.12)
Sounds Of The Universe [A Short Film] (10.05)
Wrong (promo video - 3.16)
Studio Sessions:
Corrupt (4.08)
Little Soul (3.52)
Stories Of Old (3.24)
Come Back (6.05)
 
WRONG!

That's the Deluxe version--- $95, not $20. Look it up.

I give up. Some of you guys really need to learn to read and think before posting. You undermine any credibility this site is to have.

It's maybe appropriate the first single is called Wrong. The single is on Youtube with a brilliant video.

a1exey1azar said:
CD 1 - Sounds Of The Universe
1. In Chains
2. Hole To Feed
3. WRONG
4. Fragile Tension
5. Little Soul
6. In Sympathy
7. Peace
8. Come Back
9. Spacewalker
10. Perfect
11. Miles Away / The Truth Is
12. Jezebel
13. Corrupt

CD 2
Bonus tracks
1. Light
2. The Sun And The Moon And The Stars
3. Ghost
4. Esque
5. Oh Well

Remixes
6. Corrupt - Efdemin Remix
7. In Chains - Minilogue's Earth Remix
8. Little Soul - Thomas Fehlmann Flowing Ambient Mix
9. Jezebel - SixToes Remix
10. Perfect - Electronic Periodic Dark Drone Mix
11. WRONG - Caspa Remix

CD 3
Demos
1. Little 15
2. Clean
3. Sweetest Perfection
4. Walking In My Shoes
5. I Feel You
6. Judas
7. Surrender
8. Only When I Lose Myself
9. Nothing's Impossible
10. Corrupt
11. Peace
12. Jezebel
13. Come Back
14. In Chains

DVD
Video
Making The Universe / Film (45.23)
Usual Thing, Try And Get The Question In The Answer (55.12)
Sounds Of The Universe [A Short Film] (10.05)
WRONG (promo video - 3.16)
Studio Sessions:
Corrupt (4.08)
Little Soul (3.52)
Stories Of Old (3.24)
Come Back (6.05)
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Did you buy the pack and receive confirmation e-mail from Apple?



Jonny75 said:
WRONG!

That's the Deluxe version--- $95, not $20. Look it up.

I give up. Some of you guys really need to learn to read and think before posting. You undermine any credibility this site is to have.

It's maybe appropriate the first single is called Wrong. The single is on Youtube with a brilliant video.
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a1exey1azar said:
Did you buy the pack and receive confirmation e-mail from Apple?
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Nope, but as a long term dM fan with some connections I knew about this Saturday and the various versions of release 10 days ago.

And Martin Gore has an iPhone... with the ringer set to Digital. ;o)
 
Thanks for letting me know!

lftrghtparadigm said:
Even my favorite band couldn't put out enough music frequently enough to make this worth while.
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Wow, this thread needs a moniker like thread 500. So when someone does or says something completely stupid with no relevance to the article or readers in general. This could also apply to those that show their lack of education by being in such a hurry to post that they write something before reading and thinking about the article.

Title: New iMac in Apple Store

Poster 1. I sure wish they would update the iMac
Poster 2. Stupid. They couldn't add enough bells or whistle that it would be worth the update.
Poster 3. Will it run Snow Leopard.

Poster 4. Wow, there are a lot of idiot passvants out today.
or it looks like 1, 2, 3 and pulling a thread 967895
 
Ok you don't know what you're getting here. Still might be kind of interesting for big fans of a band. But sounds like a money grab. Cd prices online should be lower than they are as it is.

I guess I'm too cheap nowadays and don't care about having whole albums any more. I'll buy per song unless the album is $1.99 (or once in awhile $5) on Amazon or if the album contains all good songs which is fairly rare. I think I have all those albums anyway.
 
mode101 said:
This is more like a season pass for television shows, not a different version of iTunes. Depeche mode has a new album, singles etc. coming out over the next few months. This just seems like a way to get everything for one price. I'll wait to see if they include any exclusives, or if it's just the stuff you can get at the record stores, since I'd rather have a physical copy, anyway. And yes, I'm a huge Depeche Mode fan.
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yep, that's excatly what it sounds like. which is not a bad thing if that's your fav artist and you don't always have the time to find out when a new single, video, etc will be released. I can think of a band right now that i like that is supposed to have an album out this year, but I dont know when. I could easily buy this pass if it was available and not have to worry about having to check itunes every week to see if its out..

im all for trying new means of distribution and use of the tech vs dinosaur ways.
 
Hard Copy

I just hope that everything they bring out will also be available on cd or vinyl, i want a hard copy and the best quality i can get.
Downloads should be an extra option in my opinion.
 
Bad Marketing?

Option 1: Everyone here who's reading this as a subscription model iTunes are idiots

Option 2: Apple's branding of "iTunes Pass" is confusing and they need a new name.
 
Slightly OT, but I just looked at the first single on youtube and it's a huge return to form. I hope the rest of the album is as good (but since "hope" is the operative word, I'm not going to speculate with $20)
 
Fuchal said:
This is pretty worthless.
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I told myself I wouldn't post in this thread (though I've enjoyed reading it) but can't help myself any longer...

For someone that was going to buy the album anyway - and though I'm personally not a fan of anything DM has released I know a lot of people are - for around $10, they can pay a little extra and get singles, B-sides, videos and whatever else ends up being included.

There may even be exclusives - and good ones. This is the world's largest music store, after-all. It wouldn't be the first time a band has released iTunes exclusive tracks or videos - not just throw away interview clips as ChrisA alluded to.

At the very least, it looks like they'll get their money's worth (as fans).

At best, it seems there's a potential they'll come out way ahead with way more content than $20 would buy on its own in the iTunes store or elsewhere.

I just don't see how so many people can flame this. If Depeche Mode isn't your thing, at least try and see how this is a worthwhile deal in theory for a band you like.

Really, the level of ignorance in this thread is giving me a headache.
 
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