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But blind defense is ok because it is Apple. Anyone voicing another opinion is wrong. Most may think that I sound ridiculous, but for some odd reason they don't think they do too with their illogical viewpoints on many subjects here. Why is that?

Is it fun to just make up all the arguments on your own? How about you respond to what I actually said instead of your fantasy fanboy drivel? "They are doing it too!" stops being a legitimate excuse sometime in grade school.
 
Is it fun to just make up all the arguments on your own? How about you respond to what I actually said instead of your fantasy fanboy drivel? "They are doing it too!" stops being a legitimate excuse sometime in grade school.

Just what I would expect you to say. Carry on. If you don't understand it, there's no point in me trying to explain. I don't want to be accused of taking the thread off topic. My opinion stays the same. I think it is pathetically cheap of a company the size of Apple to be so poor at charitable contribution.
 
Just what I would expect you to say. Carry on. If you don't understand it, there's no point in me trying to explain.

What in the world are you talking about?

My opinion stays the same. I think it is pathetically cheap of a company the size of Apple to be so poor at charitable contribution.

That's a reasonable opinion.
 
I wonder how much Apple donates to charity as a whole (not just this one program). Would be interesting to see that number. $2.6 million is pretty much nothing as far as corporate generosity goes. Example, Valero Energy 23x smaller market cap then Apple donates between $6-7 million per year to various children charities.

http://www.valero.com/NewsRoom/Pages/PR_20110915_0.aspx
 
I wonder how much Apple donates to charity as a whole (not just this one program). Would be interesting to see that number. $2.6 million is pretty much nothing as far as corporate generosity goes. Example, Valero Energy 23x smaller market cap then Apple donates between $6-7 million per year to various children charities.

http://www.valero.com/NewsRoom/Pages/PR_20110915_0.aspx

Keep in mind that the $2.6 million ($1.3 million from Apple) was based on two months.
 
Keep in mind that the $2.6 million ($1.3 million from Apple) was based on two months.

and yet it is still chump change for Apple. Also chances are the money was retro active threw the entire year. Just means people turned in the paper to match.
Standard pratice in most companies on that policy is as long as everything is turn in during the year it was done they will cover it.

So it more that in 2 months that is how much paper work was turned in and still Apple has a way to go to just to get to pathetic amount for a company the size of Apple.
 
and yet it is still chump change for Apple.

Yep. So?

Also chances are the money was retro active threw the entire year. Just means people turned in the paper to match.
Standard pratice in most companies on that policy is as long as everything is turn in during the year it was done they will cover it.

Thank you for the speculation. Not sure how it changes what I said.

So it more that in 2 months that is how much paper work was turned in and still Apple has a way to go to just to get to pathetic amount for a company the size of Apple.

"Pathetic" being your own opinion based on an undisclosed and unjustified moral standard.
 
Yep. So?



Thank you for the speculation. Not sure how it changes what I said.



"Pathetic" being your own opinion based on an undisclosed and unjustified moral standard.

I'm just curious - why are you so often contrary just for contrary sake. If someone says blue - you say "why blue."

You've done it quite a bit in this thread and others. So I'm genuinely asking what, if anything, you're trying to accomplish?
 
I'm just curious - why are you so often contrary just for contrary sake. If someone says blue - you say "why blue."

You've done it quite a bit in this thread and others. So I'm genuinely asking what, if anything, you're trying to accomplish?

Accomplish? This is a forum. I'm trying to have a discussion. Part of an interesting discussion to me is questioning assumptions.

Why do you spend so much time commenting on posters rather than the topic of discussion?
 
I'm just curious - why are you so often contrary just for contrary sake. If someone says blue - you say "why blue."

You've done it quite a bit in this thread and others. So I'm genuinely asking what, if anything, you're trying to accomplish?

It really simpler than that. To a lot of people like BaldiMac apple is infallible therefor anything that is contrary that is wrong and BS.
 
It really simpler than that. To a lot of people like BaldiMac apple is infallible therefor anything that is contrary that is wrong and BS.

That's just crap. I don't believe anything of the sort. Stop pretending the world is populated by stereotypes.
 
That's just crap. I don't believe anything of the sort. Stop pretending the world is populated by stereotypes.

That's not a fact. Nowhere did he state that he believes the world is populated by stereotypes.

See how that works.
 
I'm sorry I might have missed something.

Where does it say that this is ALL the money that Apple donates? Isn't this merely saying that this 1.3 million was raised from the matching of employees?

Is it not possible that they also donate in other ways? If someone has stone cold proof either way, I'd be interested in seeing it.

Also people seem to be glossing over Product (Red). Not sure why that is either.

Quoting myself (yet again), because I feel that unless someone answers this question, passing judgement on Apple is foolish.
 
All hegemony companies should do this at least, of which Apple is the epitome.

That is government's responsibility. These are elected officials who are there to serve those who put them there. If they do poorly, they're out. It isn't ideal, but the basis for its existence is sound vis-a-vis those in need.

On the other hand, you can make more elements of society beholden to powerful corporations.

The situation isn't as simple as you think.
 
do·nate
1. to present as a gift, grant, or contribution; make a donation of, as to a fund or cause.


Apple's charity program is a scam.

The purpose of a match is to give a dollar-to-dollar increase to the charities. Apple is not doing that.
If you read the whole article, you'll see that Apple's $1.3m match is not going to any charities. It's going to be used to internally promote the program. They are paying themselves, if you will.

"The $1.3 million matched so far is being used by Apple to internally promote the program and solicit more donations."

The employees could have donated directly to the charities and the charities would have received the same amount they are receiving with Apple's program. Instead, Apple gets good PR for what their employees are doing without having to donate anything.
 
Thank you for the advice. An alternative way to end the conversation would be to stop replying rather than telling me what I should let go.

In other words, you never let ANYTHING go and you always have to have the last word no matter what. Even the moderators telling you to shut it doesn't do any good. :rolleyes:
 
"The $1.3 million matched so far is being used by Apple to internally promote the program and solicit more donations."

The employees could have donated directly to the charities and the charities would have received the same amount they are receiving with Apple's program. Instead, Apple gets good PR for what their employees are doing without having to donate anything.

I read that as if it were:

"Apple is promoting the program by advertising that fact that Apple has added $1.3M - doubling employee donations."​
 
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do·nate
1. to present as a gift, grant, or contribution; make a donation of, as to a fund or cause.


Apple's charity program is a scam.

The purpose of a match is to give a dollar-to-dollar increase to the charities. Apple is not doing that.
If you read the whole article, you'll see that Apple's $1.3m match is not going to any charities. It's going to be used to internally promote the program. They are paying themselves, if you will.

"The $1.3 million matched so far is being used by Apple to internally promote the program and solicit more donations."

The employees could have donated directly to the charities and the charities would have received the same amount they are receiving with Apple's program. Instead, Apple gets good PR for what their employees are doing without having to donate anything.
That may be the worst understanding of anything I've ever seen on this forum. And there are many candidates.
 
Yes, because every profitable company should automatically give their capital away instead of using it to better themselves.

Dream, if you contribute more than 1.3 million to charity, then I will listen to you...if not...then shut your mouth. I would be suprised if you donate anything to charity.
 
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I bet most of you wouldn't lift a finger to help others. All of us should go to Africa and volunteer for at least a year. What's a year for us middle-class people anyway? Why don't we all donate at least 0.006% of our earnings? You have to remember not everyone at Apple makes hundreds of millions.

well um 0.006% of the earnings of a person making $50,000 a year is about
0.00006 x 50,000 = $3.
I'd say almost everyone donates more than that to charity, if donations through all sources are counted.
 
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