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Apple and FBI to Testify at Congressional Hearing on Encryption Next Week

phillipduran said:
Wrong Vance. This is not the wild west. You have no authority that isn't specifically granted to you but you think you should have free reign to do anything. If you haven't been given authority by the law to demand that companies go to work to do your job, then you don't have the authority and those companies can say NO.

You're darn right encryption has widespread implications. Just like freedom of speech, press, travel, cash money, assembly, religion, protesting . . . I don't want a lock down society where we have to ask permission and show papers while the all seeing eye of the government is watching. You're just going to have to catch bad guys using other methods. Were not giving up our quiet private space, so you can catch a few bad guys. If there are consequences, fine, I promise to not blame you for any future attacks because you can't crack encryption.
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what He said.....perfect

You're just going to have to catch bad guys using other methods. Were not giving up our quiet private space, so you can catch a few bad guys. If there are consequences, fine, I promise to not blame you for any future attacks because you can't crack encryption.

just perfect
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macs4nw said:
You mean an organization led by a 'Charlton Heston' type holding up both an iPhone and an iPad over his head while proclaiming: "From my cold, dead hands?"... :D
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Update: In related news, Microsoft today announced its full support of Apple's decision to stand against the FBI. Next week, Microsoft plans to file an amicus brief to back the company. Verizon has also come out in support of Apple. "We support the availability of strong encryption with no backdoors," Verizon CEO and chairman Lowell McAdam said in a statement.


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Isn't it ironic the timing of Microsoft's support announcement?

More ironic perhaps is Verizon's support considering how much they typically support the Feds :rolleyes:

the last article I commented on I was getting sick and tired but also bored of these barrage of stories but I think this is the part I grab a fresh bowl of popcorn a slice of pizza and enjoy another part of this drama filled saga.

The question now is in the next episode who ( what company ) supports Apple and who or what company shames Apple:rolleyes::apple:
 
We need an NRA equivalent for the 4th amendment!
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dannyyankou said:
I think there's already protections to privacy in the Constitution. Wonder what would happen if it were brought to the Supreme Court.
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The NRA is an organization that fights for the second amendment. Sure there's provisions in the constitution (the fourth amendment the poster you were replying to mentioned), but the constitution isn't even worth toilet paper if people aren't willing to defend it.

So as the GP said, "We need an NRA equivalent of the 4th amendment!".

The problem is the average person understands guns. They don't understand technology or privacy. I can't even count how many times I've heard some idiot at work say it's no big deal because they don't have anything illegal on their phone.
 
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Imagine:
Apple enters the room full of congress people.
"We are going to pull out all of our research and high paying job from the US if we are forced to comply to an ancient law, and lay off all those workers immediately. Please explain to all those people and their family on your poor decision to tell us what to do with our product. Thank you."
 
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DevNull0 said:
The NRA is an organization that fights for the second amendment. Sure there's provisions in the constitution (the fourth amendment the poster you were replying to mentioned), but the constitution isn't even worth toilet paper if people aren't willing to defend it.

So as the GP said, "We need an NRA equivalent of the 4th amendment!".

The problem is the average person understands guns. They don't understand technology or privacy. I can't even count how many times I've heard some idiot at work say it's no big deal because they don't have anything illegal on their phone.
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I understand, this wasn't my finest moment when it comes to reading comprehension, haha
 
"will examine encryption technology and its impact on American citizens and lawmakers with the goal of finding a solution that lets law enforcement do their jobs without affecting the privacy protections of U.S. citizens."


I think we all wanna know the answer to that one... :D

However, its interesting how users get so clingy to the notion of "well now we have encryption on a phone that never existed before." as the "norm"

I would hardly call this standard since only Apple is doing it... even Google rolled back on hardware encryption by offering option in Lollipop.. which to me sounds much better compromise...
 
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Tech198 said:
"will examine encryption technology and its impact on American citizens and lawmakers with the goal of finding a solution that lets law enforcement do their jobs without affecting the privacy protections of U.S. citizens."


I think we all wanna know the answer to *that* one... :D
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The answer is certainly not the crap the FBI is requesting Apple do.
 
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Just pointing how if we never had encryption on iOS, there would be no issue.. Yet when we do get encryption at a privacy level, we will fight for it tooth and nail till the cows come home...

I find that interesting we go that far, and cannot see any compromises as a "i'm never giving this up unless u kill me" I mean, even i care about encryption and security, but i wouldn't be going exactly if there no other option, u can scream as much as u like, it won't help you. We users can never see past that as this is the "norm"
 
Good for Microsoft and Verizon. I'm all for stopping terrorism, but giving the FBI (and who knows who else) the potential ability to snoop in on anyone's phone is unwise.
 
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Mums said:
Spot on - it's about fearmongering. You notice Tim Cook does not question the official narrative of what might have actually happened in San Bernadino (government involvement). I can't help but suspect this is all a show.
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I think was pretty savvy on his part. Don't argue over definitions. Don't dilute your message. Rather get out the message you want - bad for privacy, security, and public safety.
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I'll just leave this here again...
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Whose?
Those listed on or connected to our iPhones and open to exploration if the iPhone security is compromised or the ones the FBI claims could be killed, kidnapped, or sold because they can't get into the encryption?
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Tech198 said:
Just pointing how if we never had encryption on iOS, there would be no issue.. Yet when we do get encryption at a privacy level, we will fight for it tooth and nail till the cows come home...

I find that interesting we go that far, and cannot see any compromises as a "i'm never giving this up unless u kill me" I mean, even i care about encryption and security, but i wouldn't be going exactly if there no other option, u can scream as much as u like, it won't help you. We users can never see past that as this is the "norm"
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Encryption is a direct response to the increase over time of "hacking" for personal information.
It has migrated from business to consumer. Natural progression. Many apps already had it.
To me it's normal. Then again I have been dealing with it in one form or another for a long time.
 
Bruce will make him appear the ignorant, overreaching, scaremonger that he is. I can't wait. Bring a change of underwear Mr. Comey.

You'll need it by the end. :apple:
 
"As technology companies have made great strides to enhance the security of Americans' personal and private information, law enforcement agencies face new challenges when attempting to access encrypted information."

It must drive law enforcement nuts with today's computers when they can't just "kick in the door" and rifle through whatever they want. How about going back to good old fashioned quality investigative work?
 
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