Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
It would be nice if more people here had such a mode in their brains.

For the life of me, you are a fool if you're going to write software as your sole course of earning a living and not invest time into studying copyright law, patent law and much more.

Business acumen is a must for every engineer.
 
For the life of me, you are a fool if you're going to write software as your sole course of earning a living and not invest time into studying copyright law, patent law and much more.

Business acumen is a must for every engineer.

This is a fantastic point, and it's exactly what happened here.

APPLE LEGAL BRASS said:
Apple is contemplating steps to attribute the screenshot in the patent application to FutureTap.

Translation:

"We are investigating what the fkk our employees were thinking, and we will be paying the owner of the ideas because of this screwup."
 
You would still need to seek permission from the copyright holder of the horse and buggy picture to use it.

Look closely at the pictures. We have been shown a screen shot and a drawing. Large parts of the screen shot were copyright by Apple anyway, like the iPhone itself, various parts of the standard UI, and the scroll wheel was based on an Apple design. Other parts of the screen shot that showed significant inventiveness were not copied. The rest is quite trivial and only a tiny part of the copyrighted work. And that drawing cannot take any customers away from the app maker. Looks very much like "fair use" to me.
 
honestly...mac rumors has a lot of good technical topics, smart developers and engineers and users who contribute to learning more. the kinds of comments that drag it into a perez hilton expose sort of site, don't contribute to the quality of thought out comments.

Welcome to slashdot. :p

Even the comments here are people talking nonsensically about fair use and copyright infringement etc etc. I'm not trying to be an elitist, but if you (the macrumors collective, not writingdevil) aren't an IP attorney, just stop. You probably don't know what you're talking about.

This story last week both pissed me off (because I _am_ a patent attorney and there shouldn't have been a hubbub in the first place) and dismayed me (because this is the mentality that caused me to stop reading slashdot, and now it has spread to mainstream blogs).

About the only valid comment is "It would have been nice for Apple to give them attribution." There is no need for Apple to have done so, and there certainly is no requirement. But, yeah, maybe it would have been nice.

And here's your small piece of patent education for the day: if you write in your patent application that something is prior art, it becomes prior art, even if you were wrong in how you understood it. Admissions like that are held against the applicant (hence attorney's disincentive to provide attribution).
 
Congrads to FutureTap for cathing this. I guess if they get credit and are only used as a reference, their should be no problem. I think someone at Apple thought they could get away with it and when they got caught, Apple had to back-peddle and apologize. Apple is at fault, but they aren't going to admit to "borrowing heavily" from/stealing the interface from FutureTap.

Slightly off topic: Did anyone catch this?
From patent lawyer said:
As discussed, Apple is contemplating steps to attribute the screenshot in the patent application to FutureTap. The patent application in question does not claim as inventive the pictured user interface nor the general concept of an integrated travel services application. We appreciate your taking time out to discuss the matter and will keep you updated.

Shouldn't it say "claim to have invented the pictures user interface"? Bad grammer or am I just misreading it.
 
Translation:

"We are investigating what the fkk our employees were thinking, and we will be paying the owner of the ideas because of this screwup."

No, I think what they mean is they are contemplating whether they want their IP group to file an amendment to the patent application attributing the source of screenshots. Nobody is getting paid for being the "owner of the ideas".

Shouldn't it say "claim to have invented the pictures user interface"? Bad grammer or am I just misreading it

The way it was originally written is correct.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.