I think everyone with a brain stem realizes Apple is already being paid, and yearly, I’ve got nothing further to say you honestly.
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Apple and Google Given Mid-October Deadline in South Korea for Filing Plans to Allow Outside Payment Systems in Apps
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Thank you for observing that the tiniest insignificant sliver of 1% of Apple's app store revenue comes from yearly memberships, and is technically not nothing. I'm sure everyone whose income gets slashed to less than 1% of what it was appreciates tjat they're still being paid
I proposed something to Tim Cook weeks ago that would be based-upon Apple Credit, with a Fixed 7.5% cut for Apple.
A middle-ground solution, that I think would help Apple gain favor in lots of areas.
Never heard back, but that doesn't mean they didn't & aren't considering it.
Why not? Until now you've paid apple about 30% extra. From your reaction you see apple's tactics work; create a monopoly first and shame everyone who'll attack it.
Really there are better parties to deal with, and new better to be trusted will arise. Leave it to the market.
If you buy a phone at Target, Target/DGE makes a small profit on the phone but they don't make anything on the service.
Let's look at the big picture. Apple is getting assaulted on multiple fronts about their payment system and app store. They got a HUGE win with the recent decision that stated they weren't a monopoly. Now they have some precedent, in the US at least.
In Korea, they are facing an ultimatum, open up to other stores. They basically have two choices, capitulate (the details don't matter), or leave. If they stay, they have to allow otherpayment systems stores and will quickly have to do that in every country. They lose some money, but probably not a lot and open the platform to more bad players, scammers, and malicious software. If they leave, they lose money, but every other country will pause and wonder if Apple will leave when the screws are put to them.
The reality is that the vast majority of consumers don't care about this, they just want to be able to buy their stuff and for it to work. If suddenly, they can't purchase an iPhone at their local store because the government scared off Apple, they're going to be pissed at the government, not Apple. Will Apple lose out if they leave and the stock take a hit, hell yes. But, Apple may see leaving as the lesser of two evils as it keeps their lock on the platform intact, regardless of the short term loss in market share. And if Google follows suit, the Korean government will backpedal in an instant.
In Korea, they are facing an ultimatum, open up to other stores. They basically have two choices, capitulate (the details don't matter), or leave. If they stay, they have to allow other
The reality is that the vast majority of consumers don't care about this, they just want to be able to buy their stuff and for it to work. If suddenly, they can't purchase an iPhone at their local store because the government scared off Apple, they're going to be pissed at the government, not Apple. Will Apple lose out if they leave and the stock take a hit, hell yes. But, Apple may see leaving as the lesser of two evils as it keeps their lock on the platform intact, regardless of the short term loss in market share. And if Google follows suit, the Korean government will backpedal in an instant.
I’d guess that Apple will implement a royalty scheme like what there is for Xbox and PlayStation.
All Korean developers can do payments how they like on the Korean AppStore but they will pay a licensing fee for the developer tools and fees per app in the store, fees for downloads, fees for submission, etc. Maybe with a free tier and if they also use Apple’s payment system they can deduct Apple’s cut there from those fees.
All Korean developers can do payments how they like on the Korean AppStore but they will pay a licensing fee for the developer tools and fees per app in the store, fees for downloads, fees for submission, etc. Maybe with a free tier and if they also use Apple’s payment system they can deduct Apple’s cut there from those fees.
Maintaining an app store isn't free but developers do pay a tax already, it's a $99 yearly fee which Apple charges for the developer program. Apple has other means of bringing in funding for the App Store such as WWDC and search ads. And of course Apple's established IAP system will continue to bring in plenty of revenue even if other alternative payment methods are made available simply because it's more convenient to use for both the developer and customer. IMO it'd probably be ok for Apple to require IAP be one of the options (especially as this makes the info on the App Store listing more verbose about the IAPs an app offers, and avoids fragmentation for end-users who're familiar with the Apple ecosystem), but not the only option - and of course a reasonable fee will be collected from each transaction just like every other payment processor.
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You're right, gas stations have other means of bringing in funding (such as putting up a billboard, selling pizza) so gas should be free. Also, the United States government can serve ads along the Canadian and Mexican borders so that we don't have to pay taxes anymore. I didn’t know it was so easy to dictate to other people how I'm going to use their property for my benefit until you explained this
The app isn't Apple's property, and neither is the product or service it offers, only the store which it's distributed on. This can also be reinterpreted as Apple dictating to developers what they can and can't do with their property (the app in question).
Exactly, you've got it! Apple is dictating to developers that they can't take their property (the app), put it in Apple's property (the App Store), and dictate the rules of how Apple's property (the App Store) behaves. Why was that so hard, do they not have property rights in your country? Your neighbor can just put their stuff in your house and dictate how you have to treat it?
With this logic, Windows wouldn't have the iTunes Store and we'd never see another web browser besides Internet Explorer (at least on Windows).
Microsoft attempted to shut out other browsers. We didn't permit it then. Why are we all happy when Apple is trying to shut out competitors?
Developers are not trying to dictate how the App Store behaves. IAP is a separate mechanism from the App Store. Apple is acting more as a payment processor in that instance because purchases are not made through the store. And in a non-monopolistic system, if a payment processor is charging too high of a fee it should be possible to offer a different one.
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I've been using my credit cards all over the world from major companies to mom and pop to street vendors and guess what? Everything turns out ok. No scams.
$99 a year is not a serious fee. That $99 is more for access to their betas and developer resources. What a joke your argument is.
The Windows Store takes a cut from software sold, the Apple App Store takes a cut from software sold. With Windows you can get the software elsewhere if you want because you can install literally anything, any garbage in the entire world on your Windows PC and with iOS you can't get the software elsewhere if you want because Apple has curated an app store that delivers an experience that close to 100% of its users enjoy.
How is Apple shutting out competitors? Any of us can build a smartphone, build a great phone OS, launch our own software store for it, process 100% of payments ourselves, and see how well we do. Feeling entitled to use what Apple has built, and their exposure to a huge customer base, but not wanting to pay for it at all is just insane
If I buy a computer off Ebay they don't take a percentage of everything I buy online using that computer forever.
Oh please, give me a break. Go to your local supermarket and try to convince them that they need to accept a new payment method, or try to stock a particular product, or share their revenues differently. If a store allows you to sell your product there, you have no leverage, you simply decide to participate or not. Nothing is stopping these whiners from building their own app store for their own device that processes payments in the exact way that they imagine it should be done. It's just hard, and wouldn't have an audience, so they want to capitalize off of Apple's hard work without compensating Apple properly
You would've made a good defender for Microsoft back in the 90s. "Microsoft isn't exerting unfair leverage because Netscape can just make billions of dollars appear out of thin air, then use that money to build their own brand new operating system and convince all these developers / OEMs to go for it over Windows despite the years of legacy software that'll be entirely incompatible with the new OS. Then they can ship the OS with Netscape instead of Internet Explorer and problem solved."
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