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Apple and OpenAI Must Face xAI Lawsuit Over Siri Integration

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Apple and OpenAI were not able to get a lawsuit filed by Elon Musk's xAI startup dismissed, reports Bloomberg. Texas District Judge Mark Pittman said today that Apple and OpenAI will need to continue on with the lawsuit and submit filings arguing their case.

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xAI sued Apple and OpenAI in August 2025, accusing the two companies of conspiring to dominate the AI market. The lawsuit came after Musk complained that his apps X and Grok had not been featured in the App Store's "Must Have" apps section.

The lawsuit claimed that Apple was "blindsided by major innovations in AI," leading it to team up with OpenAI in a "desperate bid to protect its smartphone monopoly." It referenced Siri's ChatGPT integration, because Apple has not established deals with other companies for Siri integration. xAI said that if iPhone users want to access a generative AI chatbot, "they have no choice but to use ChatGPT, even if they would prefer to use more innovative and imaginative products like xAI's Grok."

iPhone users can, of course, download any chatbot app from the App Store, but xAI said that apps do not have the same "functionality, usability, and integration" as ChatGPT does with ‌Siri‌. The lawsuit also accused Apple of "deprioritizing" the apps of competing generative AI chatbots, and depriving Grok of data from billions of iPhone users because Grok isn't integrated with Siri like ChatGPT. The lawsuit claims that xAI "sought an integration" with Apple Intelligence, and was denied.

In a filing earlier this month, Apple and OpenAI both argued that the lawsuit is flawed because there is no exclusivity deal that prevents Apple from integrating other chatbots into Siri.

xAI has asked the court to put a stop to Apple and OpenAI's "anticompetitive scheme," and help it "recover billions in damages."

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Setting aside one's personal opinion of the people involved, it’s not unusual for competing companies to enter into a legal battle like this.

The specifics and laws around this type of contest are far too complex to be understood by users who often are too complacent to read the terms and conditions of the software they already use.

More will be revealed as time goes on.
 
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gleepskip said:
AI should be like search engines in Safari. You can leave it default (Google) or choose a different service.
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I understand why the inclination for many people would be so. But it cannot be--at least not in the immediately foreseeable future.

Very briefly, web browsers *mostly* adhere to a common protocol(s), are well understood and supported by many developers, and various interested businesses have input into them. In short, there is no standard protocol(s) that "AI" must use to communicate. There are people who think there should be, and there is a nascent effort to get the major players on the same page on this. Perhaps someone with the weight of Apple who also is acknowledged not to have, currently, an offering that anyone is worried about . . . perhaps Apple could force it. I think Apple, Microsoft, Google, and possibly a few others could enforce such a thing. But I'm not at all certain that is something they want to do.

And, by the way, when I say protocol I actually mean a number of things. I don't want to bore the audience further, though. This might be a good place to start for those who want some bedtime reading: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rosenberg-ai-protocols-00.html
 
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Elwe said:
I understand why the inclination for many people would be so. But it cannot be--at least not in the immediately foreseeable future.

Very briefly, web browsers *mostly* adhere to a common protocol(s), particularly one(s) who procedure any modern browser, is well understood and supported by many developers, and which various interested businesses have input into. In short, there is no standard protocol(s) that "AI" must use to communicate. There are people who think there should be, and there is a nascent effort to get the major players on the same page on this. Perhaps someone with the weight of Apple who also is acknowledged not to have, currently, an offering that anyone is worried about . . . perhaps Apple could force it. I think Apple, Microsoft, Google, and possibly a few others could enforce such a thing. But I'm not at all certain that is something they want to do.

And, by the way, when I saw protocol I actually mean a number of things. I don't want to bore the audience further, though. This might be a good place to start for those who want some bedtime reading: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rosenberg-ai-protocols-00.html
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Apple could just provide an API, and download apps could hook into it…let the app makers do the work.

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If I want to use apple intelligence, yes I have to use chatGPT. Thats the whole point of my post and the whole point of the lawsuit. Don’t be obtuse
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Saying you are forced is the height being obtuse.
 
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MacRumors said:


Apple and OpenAI were not able to get a lawsuit filed by Elon Musk's xAI startup dismissed, reports Bloomberg. Texas District Judge Mark Pittman said today that Apple and OpenAI will need to continue on with the lawsuit and submit filings arguing their case.

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xAI sued Apple and OpenAI in August 2025, accusing the two companies of conspiring to dominate the AI market. The lawsuit came after Musk complained that his apps X and Grok had not been featured in the App Store's "Must Have" apps section.

The lawsuit claimed that Apple was "blindsided by major innovations in AI," leading it to team up with OpenAI in a "desperate bid to protect its smartphone monopoly." It referenced Siri's ChatGPT integration, because Apple has not established deals with other companies for Siri integration. xAI said that if iPhone users want to access a generative AI chatbot, "they have no choice but to use ChatGPT, even if they would prefer to use more innovative and imaginative products like xAI's Grok."

iPhone users can, of course, download any chatbot app from the App Store, but xAI said that apps do not have the same "functionality, usability, and integration" as ChatGPT does with ‌Siri‌. The lawsuit also accused Apple of "deprioritizing" the apps of competing generative AI chatbots, and depriving Grok of data from billions of iPhone users because Grok isn't integrated with Siri like ChatGPT. The lawsuit claims that xAI "sought an integration" with Apple Intelligence, and was denied.

In a filing earlier this month, Apple and OpenAI both argued that the lawsuit is flawed because there is no exclusivity deal that prevents Apple from integrating other chatbots into Siri.

xAI has asked the court to put a stop to Apple and OpenAI's "anticompetitive scheme," and help it "recover billions in damages."

Article Link: Apple and OpenAI Must Face xAI Lawsuit Over Siri Integration
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Why this sounds like someone yapping about being unfair?
 
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Bungaree.Chubbins said:
If Grok was superior in nearly every regard, then Musk wouldn't need to go to court to try to force people to use it!
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How is ‘forcing people to use’ to have a choice?
Elwe said:
I understand why the inclination for many people would be so. But it cannot be--at least not in the immediately foreseeable future.

Very briefly, web browsers *mostly* adhere to a common protocol(s), particularly one(s) who procedure any modern browser, is well understood and supported by many developers, and which various interested businesses have input into. In short, there is no standard protocol(s) that "AI" must use to communicate. There are people who think there should be, and there is a nascent effort to get the major players on the same page on this. Perhaps someone with the weight of Apple who also is acknowledged not to have, currently, an offering that anyone is worried about . . . perhaps Apple could force it. I think Apple, Microsoft, Google, and possibly a few others could enforce such a thing. But I'm not at all certain that is something they want to do.

And, by the way, when I saw protocol I actually mean a number of things. I don't want to bore the audience further, though. This might be a good place to start for those who want some bedtime reading: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rosenberg-ai-protocols-00.html
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Thats not entirely true. Both Grok and OpenAI use the same AI protocols for their API etc.
 
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