Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this lawsuit was limited to OpenAI and Apple conspiring to bury xAI in the App Store (like you know, 99.999% of all apps are by default), not that you are forced to be using a particular LLM built into the OS. Which on face value, is a really stupid arguement. OpenAI was out first and had millions of users before Musk even formed xAI. So of course it would get promoted for its userbase and popularity.
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Apple and OpenAI Must Face xAI Lawsuit Over Siri Integration
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Agreed. Apple should sue Tesla for all of the years it refused to support CarPlay.
I don’t like Elon or Grok, I have very different views than he does, but I do believe it should be the user’s choice which AI service their phone queries, even if that is Grok. Choice is not a bad thing
I do believe in choice. Android and iOS allow for choice.
Making iOS more like Android reduces choice. There should be an operating system that's completely locked down with no options for the user to simplify the experience, and there should be another operating system where one company lets the user have full control of the system for full customization.
This is especially funny considering they have a deal with Gemini too now. So this argument goes out the door
Tesla does not have a monopoly in car manufacturing or even EV car manufacturing. It cannot be found guilty of anti trust.
In the US Tesla is absolutely a monopoly in EV sales accounting for as many vehicles as all others combined.
Please take this as a respectful correction. I will quote the article:
It referenced Siri's ChatGPT integration, because Apple has not established deals with other companies for Siri integration.....
iPhone users can, of course, download any chatbot app from the App Store, but xAI said that apps do not have the same "functionality, usability, and integration" as ChatGPT does with Siri.
It's not that when one searches for AI in the app store you are presented with a billion and a half dodgy apps all with the same icon and similar name, or that Musk's Grok is somewhat under (*)AI in the list.
It's that Apple chose to implement Siri currently providing fallback to ChatGPT's model, without giving people the option to choose whom they wished to provide this enhanced 'brains' as the next level up from standard dumb-as-a-bucket-of-hair "I found this on the web for you" Siri.
Being really deeply interested in AI Ethics I could really get into the meat here, but Mr Musk - as much as I dislike him - does have a point.
We must be able to choose a model that we wish to power our assistant, as much as we need to choose a search engine we like. (and in my case, for search, I use Kagi)
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A monopoly in the USA is defined as around 40-50% off market share. So perhaps it does.
In 2024 tesla sold 36% of EV cars. So very very close
Maybe he should take one of his one-way tickets to Mars?
I guess, now that Apple are using Google Gemini for Siri internally and ChatGPT externally, there can be no more talks about collusion...
As to Grok and X not appearing in the "Must Have" list, since it was renamed, X (and I never understood why he changed Twitter's name to one associated exclusively with adult entertainment) has become a cesspool and the partly unhinged nature of Grok doesn't really doesn't gel with Apple's moral compass either.
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Yep, the second part of your last line is really what people are arguing about. The first part is the actual argument, but it's only being used a vehicle for people to shout about the second.
It's a "bad faith" legal action. It only serves to make all the players in it look bad. End-users can only cheer for either monopolistic practices on the one side or outright bigotry and slop on the other.
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Another billionaire throwing his toys out of the pram.
He's not altogether wrong but the way he's gone about it is so childlike, my Lord maybe I need to regress to make a million
He's not altogether wrong but the way he's gone about it is so childlike, my Lord maybe I need to regress to make a million
Going to court has nothing to do with forcing anyone to use it, where did you read this nonsense. I don't use grok and I do not intend to (Musk is just toxic at this point), but it could well be a better product, and it could well be Apple is acting unfairly, as it often does lately.
X/Musk would sue a woman if she declined a drink at the bar.
No it’s not. Apple doesn’t have anything close to a monopoly.
One of the worst things i've ever seen posted on here.
Imagine being the richest person in history. You could spend your days buying any country you like, build literally anything you could ever want. World's biggest video arcade for just yourself? On-site cafe just for you? Go right ahead. Want to send yourself into space for a holiday on the ISS just for kicks? Why not! Want to see your favourite sports team dominate everything? Give them an infinite budget to do so. Be as selfish or selfless as you like; the possibilities are endless.
Now imagine instead of spending your days just having fun you instead woke up every morning finding something to be annoyed at and spent all your waking time telling the world so.
Now imagine instead of spending your days just having fun you instead woke up every morning finding something to be annoyed at and spent all your waking time telling the world so.