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We should do the same here in the US with all the Chinese brands. If we had done that, Lenovo wouldn't have gotten away with what they did.
 
iphones must be pretty easy to crack if they already gave apple the green light :rolleyes:
 
This could apply to USA as well. We see constant cry about security, someone wants build a wall, someone wants to block certain group coming to USA, FBI and CIA constantly monitoring regular citizen phone call etc.

At least China is not doing in global scale, where USA is.
I was waiting for a response like that.

Reality is the freedoms from the Constitution makes the USA and other western countries stronger, more adaptable and less centralized.

Unlike China that has deaths squads patrolling in the open killing off political opponents, the USA is a free-for-all with a web of decentralized power in private sectors in free market competition.

There is no one "central parity" controlling the direction here. The USA has multiple "Big Uncles" in rivalry instead of one Big Brother as in China's Orwellian state.
 
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Meanwhile, Apple's celebrating Chinese Music. :D

I think it's one thing to be catering to the public (Chinese music for the Chinese, Candy Crush Saga for the Americans), but speaking to governments in general is a different story. I do understand that some are not able to distinguish between these two approaches.
 
Sooner or later the west will have to stand up to the Chinese and stop the appeasement of this evil regime.
That iPhone in your pocket, the iPad in your purse, and the MacBook on your desk is building this empire
 
Yes, the Western world is just so much more advanced and moral...

I hate to break it to you, but in terms of liberty, democracy, equality before law, and rule of law, US is far far far far ahead of China.

Don't believe me? Just ask all the wealthy Chinese buying up properties in US with cash, flying over to have their babies in the US, investing $500K to get US green cards and sending their children to study in the US.
 
I hate to break it to you, but in terms of liberty, democracy, equality before law, and rule of law, US is far far far far ahead of China.

As a citizen of a more progressive country, I agree, you guys are slowly catching up. *golfclap* :)
 
As a citizen of a more progressive country, I agree, you guys are slowly catching up. *golfclap* :)

Get off your high horses.
I said "equality" before law and individual liberty (read: property rights), not equality of outcome, collectivism or cultural Marxism.
Irony should not be lost that you're here on a rumors website to discuss US products and searching the internet using US browsers with US search engines.
 
Didn't realize Canada made things. Oh you guys make pretty good down jackets though.
Canada Goose is really popular among Chinese.

Oh, now we're doing the "Produced in China, sorted in Mexico, assembled in US, envied by Canadians(never happened)" thing? Whatever makes you feel comfortable. Human rights are so far ahead here in comparison to your garbage dumps ruled by pathetic "religious" freaks.
 
Sooner or later the west will have to stand up to the Chinese and stop the appeasement of this evil regime.
You can't 'stand up' or bite the hand that feeds you. Apple needs the Chinese market. If they, didn't they'd give them a wide berth.

So once again have this in mind; Apple needs China more than China needs Apple. To help you digest this, think about dating. The more desperate party is more likely to be mistreated
 
You can't 'stand up' or bite the hand that feeds you. Apple needs the Chinese market. If they, didn't they'd give them a wide berth.

So once again have this in mind; Apple needs China more than China needs Apple. To help you digest this, think about dating. The more desperate party is more likely to be mistreated

You mean like any other western company is catering to the Chinese? Seems like the western civilization needs China...
 
I hate to break it to you, but in terms of liberty, democracy, equality before law, and rule of law, US is far far far far ahead of China.
Ahead, but not far. The US government does not even trust their own legal system, so they need to create offshore detention camps. And nowhere else in the world is the density of lawyers higher, surely that shouldn't be necessary if the country was ahead of the Chinese. The difference is that where power in China is centralized, in the US power are following the capital and through the biggest corporations and their owners. In a sense one can say that USA is a weak state, where although ideas like liberty democracy, equality and the law are strong in the constitution, they are hampered by how bigger corporation are able to influence and offset their reach.
 
As a citizen of a more progressive country, I agree, you guys are slowly catching up. *golfclap*
As long as there is free market healthcare with no government subsidy and firearm rights are kept, I'm fine.
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Ahead, but not far. The US government does not even trust their own legal system, so they need to create offshore detention camps. And nowhere else in the world is the density of lawyers higher, surely that shouldn't be necessary if the country was ahead of the Chinese. The difference is that where power in China is centralized, in the US power are following the capital and through the biggest corporations and their owners. In a sense one can say that USA is a weak state, where although ideas like liberty democracy, equality and the law are strong in the constitution, they are hampered by how bigger corporation are able to influence and offset their reach.

From the CIA Fact-book about the USA. They pretty much objectively nail it.

"The US has the most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $54,800. US firms are at or near the forefront in technological advances, especially in computers, pharmaceuticals, and medical, aerospace, and military equipment; however, their advantage has narrowed since the end of World War II. Based on a comparison of GDP measured at Purchasing Power Parity conversion rates, the US economy in 2014, having stood as the largest in the world for more than a century, slipped into second place behind China, which has more than tripled the US growth rate for each year of the past four decades.

"In the US, private individuals and business firms make most of the decisions, and the federal and state governments buy needed goods and services predominantly in the private marketplace. US business firms enjoy greater flexibility than their counterparts in Western Europe and Japan in decisions to expand capital plant, to lay off surplus workers, and to develop new products. At the same time, they face higher barriers to enter their rivals' home markets than foreign firms face entering US markets.

"Long-term problems for the US include stagnation of wages for lower-income families, inadequate investment in deteriorating infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, energy shortages, and sizable current account and budget deficits.

"The onrush of technology has been a driving factor in the gradual development of a "two-tier" labor market in which those at the bottom lack the education and the professional/technical skills of those at the top and, more and more, fail to get comparable pay raises, health insurance coverage, and other benefits. But the globalization of trade, and especially the rise of low-wage producers such as China, has put additional downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on the return to capital. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. Since 1996, dividends and capital gains have grown faster than wages or any other category of after-tax income."
 
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The Chinese government is disgusting, i'd rather go to N Korea than China. One well placed nuke should do the job.
 
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Can't help myself: this 1bn$ taste like a bribe and soon wrote off ...
Sorry :apple: for beeing honest here. I liked your stance against FBI; but this one ???

Would some investment in increased QA better ? Can be also done in China if the food print need to be increased.
 
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