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There have been few updates in the "iPad" trademark dispute between Apple and Proview over the past couple of months, but IDG News now reports that the two companies are engaged in settlement talks with an eye toward resolving the issue.
Ma Dongxiao, a lawyer representing the Chinese company Proview, said on Friday the talks were happening, but declined to offer details.

The legal dispute between Apple and Proview is still being deliberated by the Higher People's Court of Guangdong Province. But earlier this week, the court recommended that both Apple and Proview find a way to mediate the dispute, according to a court spokesman.
Apple claims that it used a dummy corporation to purchase the Chinese rights to the iPad trademark in late 2009 as part of a broad deal with Proview's Taiwanese arm covering several markets and carrying a $55,000 purchase price. But Proview has argued that the Chinese rights were controlled by its Chinese arm and that the Taiwanese unit had no ability to sell them to Apple, despite the fact that corporate officers common to both units were involved in the deal.

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Proview has since filed several suits against Apple, with reports of damage claims ranging up to $2 billion. For its part, Apple has been playing up a Hong Kong court ruling that found Proview and its subsidiaries had conspired to extort millions of dollars from Apple once it was discovered that Apple was behind the trademark purchase. Chinese courts have, however, yet to rule on the issue.

It is unclear whether the new settlement talks between Apple and Proview are likely to be successful, with each side undoubtedly weighing their chances of winning in court as they decide how far to compromise in the talks.

Article Link: Apple and Proview in Settlement Talks over iPad Trademark in China
 

Yvan256

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...despite the fact that corporate officers common to both units were involved in the deal.

IMHO, there's the key element that proves Proview is just trying to extort money from Apple.
 

BJMRamage

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despite the fact that corporate officers common to both units were involved in the deal.

right. shady happenings here.

Imagine if you had a board member from a competitor who then suddenly shifted their product to look a lot like yours. [cough]google[/cough]

shady happenings.
 

2bikes

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Why doesn`t Apple just buy this company and then ask them to clean Apple HQs windows or something. It will cost them less then $2billion.
 

BC2009

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The only reason that Apple should be in settlement talks with Proview is because the courts have recommended that they come to a settlement. Proview ran a scam here -- plain and simple. The exact same people who sold the trademark representing the Taiwanese company represented the Chinese company as well and they represented the sale as use of the trademark in China. A court in Hong Kong has already ruled that Proview was willfully trying to dupe Apple and trying to extort money out of them and ordered them to surrender the copyright. Of course Proview is ignoring the Hong Kong ruling and deferring to the courts in mainland China so Apple is forced to go through this all again.

I'm sure Proview would have asked for more money for their 8-year-unused trademark if they knew the buyer was Apple, but that's the breaks -- no big business is going to tip their hand in that way -- they all use small shell companies to buy things like trademarks just like Walt Disney did when buying the land for Disney World in Orlando, FL. They have to do that or else the price of every trademark they buy goes up by an order of magnitude.
 

5aga

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Why doesn`t Apple just buy this company and then ask them to clean Apple HQs windows or something. It will cost them less then $2billion.

why buy the company when they are already going bankrupt? Apple has enough $$$ to drag this out but its probably easier to just pay them some percentage of what their asking and be done with it.
 

kyjaotkb

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Why doesn`t Apple just buy this company and then ask them to clean Apple HQs windows or something. It will cost them less then $2billion.

That would be insulting in regard to all the honest, hard-working janitors hired by Apple.

BTW can we technically call "a middle finger" a "settlement" ? That would do, I think.
 

rmatthewware

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Here's your settlement: Apple can offer each of the board members a free iPad each year for life. It'll cost less to Apple, and it's more than they deserve.
 

darkplanets

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Here's your settlement: Apple can offer each of the board members a free iPad each year for life. It'll cost less to Apple, and it's more than they deserve.

I wonder if the Chinese government factors into this settlement. Apple is worth more to China than Proview -- one brings in million in manufacturing.
 

Thunderhawks

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Triple YAWN for more down votes.

This entire subject has been discussed ad nauseum when it first came up.

Come on MacRumors,
report about new products and get legitimate clicks!
 

gnasher729

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Why doesn`t Apple just buy this company and then ask them to clean Apple HQs windows or something. It will cost them less then $2billion.

Because Apple paid £35,000 already for the iPad trademark, and they would want to avoid any payment above the £35,000. Winning the court case (which should be easy enough with the evidence against Proview that Apple has now) is a lot cheaper than buying the company. And making them pay millions to lawyers as punishment - priceless.
 

jwhite878

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Their logo looks like the Portal logo.
 

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ericinboston

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This, among the other lawsuit settlement talks/articles, is exactly what Apple SHOULD be doing...looking to POSSIBLY settle. Steve Jobs never would have settled on ANY suit and likely spent bazillions of dollars and years of fighting each suit, regardless if he won or loss.

Lawsuits suck. You shouldn't always settle...but at least Tim Cook and friends have an open mind about just getting things over with.

Settlements typically always have the language/legal jargon of: "we didn't do anything wrong, we're just settling this out of court so everyone can be happy, our dispute/disagreement is now 100% fully resolved and neither of us will sue each other again regarding this topic, and each party can go back to work."
 

Lennholm

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Wait, you mean they aren't intending to immediately start the manufacture of world-class cutting edge tablet devices? Or market ANYthing using "iPad"? INCONCEIVABLE!

They actually made and sold a product called ipad. It wasn't a tablet, but why would an "ipad" have to be a tablet anyway?

Here's your settlement: Apple can offer each of the board members a free iPad each year for life. It'll cost less to Apple, and it's more than they deserve.

If they get more than they deserve, technically speaking they've won. On the other hand, if the board members each get an iPad, that means the company which is the claimant didn't get anything, so technically speaking Apple would've bribed the board members to drop the claim on behalf of the company.

I'm just pointing things out, no opinion or judgement intended.
 

Amazing Iceman

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YAWN to all of it.

In other news:

A bicycle fell to the ground in Asia and
hit a bag of rice.

Interesting news!
Question: Was the rice raw or cooked? It would really make a difference to the rider at time of impact. :D

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IMHO, there's the key element that proves Proview is just trying to extort money from Apple.

Definitely!

...But Proview has argued that the Chinese rights were controlled by its Chinese arm and that the Taiwanese unit had no ability to sell them to Apple, despite the fact that corporate officers common to both units were involved in the deal...

Face it, Proview. You sold the rights:
"corporate officers common to both units were involved in the deal".

What kind of morons would get other morons involved in a deal to sell something they were not supposed to sell??

NO REFUNDS, NO EXCHANGES!!!

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Still think the iPad is a silly name

You really think so? I think it got chosen for being a short, simple and straight to the point name.
People were very accustom to the 'iPod' name already.
What else could have it been?
 
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