The iPhone wasn't "derivative" of anything. Do people even remember mobile phones before 2007? I do. They were NOTHING like the iPhone or any current Android or Windows "smartphone" (and no, Blackberry wasn't even close). If people don't get that, then I can't really help. For those claiming Apple didn't "invent" the "technology" associated with the patent disputes: please tell me you are using a Nokia brick phone circa 2000, because that's what phones would still look like and work like if it weren't for Apple.
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Apple and Samsung Seek to Extend Infringement Claims in Second U.S. Patent Lawsuit
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The iPhone wasn't "derivative" of anything. Do people even remember mobile phones before 2007? I do. They were NOTHING like the iPhone or any current Android or Windows "smartphone" (and no, Blackberry wasn't even close). If people don't get that, then I can't really help. For those claiming Apple didn't "invent" the "technology" associated with the patent disputes: please tell me you are using a Nokia brick phone circa 2000, because that's what phones would still look like and work like if it weren't for Apple.
It is gimped, get over it.
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Never would have happened without Apple, huh? Apple was simply first to popularize it. Don't mistake that with... never would have happened...
as I understood, this "battle" doesn't be in court room till March 2014? right?
if so, what would get these companies, for argument sake say, Samsung has potential at winning this, whatever they call against iphone 5, what they get benefit from it, will apple pay them difference between samsung and apple phone sales?
if so, what would get these companies, for argument sake say, Samsung has potential at winning this, whatever they call against iphone 5, what they get benefit from it, will apple pay them difference between samsung and apple phone sales?
Technically, Business/Marketing 101 is the consumer will ignore all backroom issues and look at the shiny on the shelf and ad.
That's what all these lawsuits are about! SOFTWARE.
Software is tech - not following what you mean by actual.
As an aspiring dev, I'd be pissed if someone could just rip me off and it wasn't Okay to sue them.
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What are you talking about?
Of all the things said about the s3 it's not the design. It's the fastest hardware with okay software.. In fact, it's not reviewed anywhere nearly as highly as the iPhone 5.
The number of people here saying, what basically comes down to, "Apple should just shut their doors, fire their employees and give up because Samsung claims they own the idea of a volume control" is a bit surprising. I mean, I expect people spout off. But there just seem to be a surprising number of Samsung flacks here.
Apple's unwillingness to simply work with other companies will be their downfall. It doesn't matter if it's Samsung or Google or Facebook.
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple he patched up things with Microsoft and was able to concentrate on moving Apple forward.
Whether it's hardware, software or services, Apple need to concentrate on making Apple better and stop getting so hung up on "burying the other guy". Work with those that deliver the best in their field. Apple doesn't NEED to do everything in-house and they shouldn't.
I think Apple and Samsung need to come to an agreement. The lawsuits will not benefit either side in the long run.
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple he patched up things with Microsoft and was able to concentrate on moving Apple forward.
Whether it's hardware, software or services, Apple need to concentrate on making Apple better and stop getting so hung up on "burying the other guy". Work with those that deliver the best in their field. Apple doesn't NEED to do everything in-house and they shouldn't.
I think Apple and Samsung need to come to an agreement. The lawsuits will not benefit either side in the long run.
What give you the idea that Apple is focus on burying the other guy but not focus on their product? Didn't we has a major new rollout of most Apple products? From where I sit, it looks like all of them are getting pretty good review and sales number are great. The only major problem is Foxconn production problem in Iphone 5. Customer is where Apple focus their effort on. They are voting with their dollars and it seems to be doing mighty well.. Why can't a company assert their right to protect their idea and build new product at the same time?
Just to be fair. What "core technologies" did Google and Samsung invent? Search Engine? Android?
I choose polaroid. The best thing in tablet scene! Apple got too greedy and started putting expensive useless technology on disposable products (magsafe). Why would anyone put up with a company, that forces to buy stuff, that is obsolete the minute you buy it? While apple claims social responsibility in fact it is not responsable at all. For example iphone case manufacturers have to throw their stock to the garbage every 6 months.
As far as all this Samsung/iphone battle... I would choose samsung, since apple products became incompatible with apple!!! So in this case it is better android scene- it has more total devices running it from cell phones to tablets and so on.
As far as all this Samsung/iphone battle... I would choose samsung, since apple products became incompatible with apple!!! So in this case it is better android scene- it has more total devices running it from cell phones to tablets and so on.
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palm company had the best stuff at some point before apple even started thinking about iphone. I remember palm pilots had everything you could wish for - camera with audio, video, photo function, audio recorder, even touch screen, and quite advanced technology, software. The problem was that it had poor marketing. palm came up with revolutionary design and ideas. They came up with a tablet design when everyone laughed at them using heavy laptops. I think some patents/ideas/workers were eventualy incorporated to android/apple products.
It would be fair if someone was saying that Google or Samsung invented phone core technologies.
you are joking right? samsung doesn't just make smartphones and laptops. they make tv's,dvd players, kitchen appliances, air conditioners(i have one in my bedroom) and so many other appliances.
outside of america samsung is quite popular.
if their smartphone division died Samsung would still survive. can't really say the same about apple. if people stopped buying their smartphones that would be a huge loss for them. they wouldn't be finished but it would be a huge hit.
Well Samsung and Google both own multiple patents over "core technologies" (ie, radio transmission protocols like LTE and HSPA+ and others). Samsung is a multi-disciplinary vendor with a hand in communications and semi conductors, while Google purchased Motorola Mobility which had invented many of these. It's safe to say Samsung also invented quite a lot of the tech that goes into these mobile devices.
Apple holds key patents over LTE through their Nortel bid, but they don't have exclusive use to them having bought them as a group with Microsoft amongst others.
One key aspect to recognize this is that Apple claims are mostly centered around design patents/registrations, trade dress/trademark and UI/software patents while the counter-claims by its defendants are mostly centered around FRAND encumbered patents for core radio transmissions.
In the end, Apple plays victim a lot, but, Nokia, Samsung, Motorola have all had to go to court to get their licensing fees for FRAND patents for radio technologies, and Apple to this day has only settled with Nokia. Apple is big to say "pay for our IP!" but is slow to actually pay for IP it needs to license.
Hypocrites.
I think this will end up being a waste of time and money for both companies and also manages to make them both look bad in the eye of the public.
Samsung is worth 2 dollars. I think I have enough change in my pocket to buy them out.
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Not only just electronics/appliances.
Cars, buildings, ships, etc.
Stop with the "Apple fighting for innovation" nonsense already. That's absurd.
Apple has NOT invented the core technologies behind these devices. You seem to know nothing about which patents are involved in the fight between these two companies.