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Well looks like apple is desperate to make amends with samsung.

Samsung buys nothing from apple but apple depends on samsung for everything from from processor to screen.

So much talks about the apple wanted to diversify from Samsung but seems like apple continuing to buy more lcd from samsung. Seems like apple wanted to crawl back and get amoled screen from Samsung. Apple is so pathetic.
 
The lawyers would never allow this :p

Well looks like apple is desperate to make amends with samsung.

Samsung buys nothing from apple but apple depends on samsung for everything from from processor to screen.

Completely unrelated. Apple buying components from Samsung is a mutually beneficial arrangement. Samsung isn't giving away these things out of the kindness of their heart, I'm sure they're making a large chuck of change supplying components to tens of millions of Apple devices.

Apple CAN seek other sources for these components. TSMC, LG, Sharp, Toshiba, etc. Where is Samsung going to go to fill the cash cow void that would be left behind if Apple abandoned them as a supplier?
 
The lawyers would never allow this :p



Completely unrelated. Apple buying components from Samsung is a mutually beneficial arrangement. Samsung isn't giving away these things out of the kindness of their heart, I'm sure they're making a large chuck of change supplying components to tens of millions of Apple devices.

Apple CAN seek other sources for these components. TSMC, LG, Sharp, Toshiba, etc. Where is Samsung going to go to fill the cash cow void that would be left behind if Apple abandoned them as a supplier?

Like I said apple has been trying to get from other sources for sometime now but without much success. I think maybe apple realised that being hostile towards the supplier which your business depended on isn't good business.
 
Like I said apple has been trying to get from other sources for sometime now but without much success. I think maybe apple realised that being hostile towards the supplier which your business depended on isn't good business.

Again, it's unrelated. Samsung has never threatened to stop supplying Apple because of law suits. Why would they? There's no evidence of it and more over, it makes absolutely no sense. I'm not sure why it does to you.

I'm not sure if you failed to read the first few words of the article, but it clearly states Apple and Samsung are attempting to find "common ground"

What both companies probably realized is that the only parties benefiting is their lawyers. Certainly not their consumers and both have had very limited success in the courts. The lawyers i'm sure get paid regardless.
 
I hope they really do, I'm sick and tired of hearing, seeing and reading all about the lawsuits.

The lawyers had a great run for a few years, though. Must've been close to a billion dollars spent all around by everyone.

You'd think that Steve Jobs would've known better. When he left Apple to form NeXT, he took some of the best employees and inside info with him. Apple sued him, but all it did was make Apple look scared of NeXT. Same thing happened here. All it did was give Samsung lots of publicity and make them into the underdog that Apple used to be.

On the good side of things, there's more clarification and precedent over when injunctions are allowable. I.e. For essential patents, only if the licensee is not willing to negotiate. For other patents, only if they actually cause competing sales. (simplified)

...I think it's just Samsung stalling for more time.

Likewise, Apple has stalled paying Motorola and Samsung for essential patents for six years now, while attempting to use the courts... who caught onto it... to negotiate a lower rate for them.
 
You have to realize that Apple is alone in everything they do. They refuse to license their OS so that other companies, like Samsung, can alleviate the burden away from Apple of being the sole provider of a Mac or iDevice. Apple wants it all, they want to make their own OS, hardware, and even their own distribution channels and content platform.

Apple learned from their own past mistake of licensing out their own operating system. People have such short memories that they forgot they did licensed it out only to have other vendors underprice their own computers. They are not interested in a race to the bottom. There are other companies that do that. They want to make very high quality computers and devices.

Having their own ecosystem has advantages besides protecting their own products. Like security, integration between products, ease of use, less fragmentation, better support and so on. Something a lot of customers value.

This ONLY works now because Apple makes highly coveted products.

This is not quite like Beats, that they recently bought. While Apples products tend to be more expensive they are most often worth the money. Unlike Beats, which are expensive, don't offer much build quality or better sound then the cheaper alternatives.

On the other side, because Google licences Android, they can work with many, many partners. Even if Apple won a huge victory against Samsung and culls the ability for Samsung to compete in the phone and tablet markets, there are literally hundreds of other manufactures of Android devices that will eventually rise up to take Samsung's place.

I don't think they ultimately trying to prevent Samsung from competing. They are trying to make Samsung think twice from copying their ideas like they did on their earlier phones.

Google can lose half of its partners and still produce a highly competitive product.

Android is only part of a finished product, it needs hardware for it to be complete.


Apple can't sue the world.

I don't think they are trying to do that. But they can certainly protect themselves from companies that try to profit from their hard work.

Steve Jobs was wrong to assume they could dominate the market, and the decision to "destroy" Google set Apple down the wrong path, it is good to see Tim Cook rise as leader and set Apple on the right path finally.

I don't think he is that stupid to think world domination...lol. I think Apple has more of a problem with Samsung then Google. Samsung also adds another layer on top of Android, Touchwiz.

It's this kind of company that competitors should fear, a company that will rise as a leader in OPEN innovation, not a company that values isolation and protectionism with far too much money in their pockets.

Its clear you don't run your own business or had to compete with other companies. Open innovation, while it sounds nice, does not always work.

An open platform does not always offer the security, ease of use, compatibility, quality, compared to Apples platform.

It should be what type of platform you prefer.
 
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Common Ground = How about you stop copying everything and everyone and come up with something original for once in your existence, Samesung?
 
Common Ground = How about you stop copying everything and everyone and come up with something original for once in your existence, Samesung?

yep, the smart watch, multi-tasking, 3rd party keyboards, smaller form factor tablets, larger phones. How dare Samsung steal all those ideas and come to market with them first!
 
"OK Apple- here is the common ground-

You don't sue us when we rip off your legitimate patents on innovative technologies and user interface enhancements that you invented and invested money in to.

We will not file unsubstantiated and improper lawsuits against you for using patents integral to standards we have already submitted to be FRAND patents where we have to offer you the same licensing deals we do everyone else because we get the benefit of having our technologies in widespread use as part of a technology standard.

And then we will continue to copy you.

Deal?"

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"Oh yeah- forgot one thing- we will stop paying people to post shill comments on Mac forums in support of our blatant copying of your products...

We all good?"
 
Like I said apple has been trying to get from other sources for sometime now but without much success. I think maybe apple realised that being hostile towards the supplier which your business depended on isn't good business.

I don't think copying designs from a company you supply parts too is not a good idea. Apple is a supper major important client for Samsung. The Galaxy S5 isn't doing very well and Chinese phones are starting to come to the forefront.
 
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yep, the smart watch, multi-tasking, 3rd party keyboards, smaller form factor tablets, larger phones. How dare Samsung steal all those ideas and come to market with them first!

Wow those are the opposite of a good example of how Samsung is doing something original.......

Watches and keyboards are nothing new and a "large phone" as an example of a good innovation? lololol.
 
The first award is still roughly $900 million, not $290 million. What happened was that a $400 million piece was reversed but $290 million was awarded in the retrial.

This is like the second or third I think I saw MR made the same mistake. You'd think they'd read the actual linked source before making the mistake.
 
Good. Hopefully both companies can work together and hopefully build technologies together.

You mean one of them can manufacture for the other, right? Samsung doesn't "build" crap, even their most touted tech is invented in the US then handed to them for manufacture. That includes OLED, curved screens, transparent OLED, NAND, virtually EVERYTHING they manufacture...and even the technology required for the manufacturing is handed over to them.

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Well looks like apple is desperate to make amends with samsung.

Samsung buys nothing from apple but apple depends on samsung for everything from from processor to screen.

So much talks about the apple wanted to diversify from Samsung but seems like apple continuing to buy more lcd from samsung. Seems like apple wanted to crawl back and get amoled screen from Samsung. Apple is so pathetic.

Sorry but you're completely wrong. Less than 10% of any iOS device is made up of Samsung components. This constant misinformation that is shared among the rest of those like you is ridiculous.
 
yep, the smart watch, multi-tasking, 3rd party keyboards, smaller form factor tablets, larger phones. How dare Samsung steal all those ideas and come to market with them first!

Samsung phones and tablets before iPhone/iPad, then after. Any questions?
 
Apple and Samsung Trying to Find 'Common Ground' in Efforts to End Patent War

That's limiting yourself pretty seriously. What's your choice of car company?
 
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I don't think copying designs from a company you supply parts too is not a good idea. Apple is a supper major important client for Samsung. The Galaxy S5 isn't doing very well and Chinese phones are starting to come to the forefront.

In same sense apple isn't doing well either. It has a lower year on year market share growth than samsung.





Wow those are the opposite of a good example of how Samsung is doing something original.......

Watches and keyboards are nothing new and a "large phone" as an example of a good innovation? lololol.

But that has better originality and innovation than Apple which make used of kangaroo uspto to acquire frivolous and prior arts patent like rectangular shape or slide to unlock copied from neonode or universal search that has been available on pc and symbian when apple is till in diaper.

Even the new iOS7 unlock is copied from Samsung. When apple found out how cumbersome you need to find the slider and slide to unlock, it unashamedly copied samsung unlock method which you swipe anywhere on the screen. That's how cheap and low apple is.

Not to mention the recent wholesale copying of Android features in ios8. Those defending apple as innovative is whole lot of hogwash.
 
Apple and Samsung to find common ground...Good luck with that...

Just make a deal like Apple does with Microsoft, not to sue under any circumstances...


Wait, no they won't work ....
 
In same sense apple isn't doing well either. It has a lower year on year market share growth than samsung.

If you mean compared to Android market share, that means diddly squat. While Android market share grows, its profits decreases due to more Android phone profits having to be shared by so many manufactures. Apples profits continue to increase every quarter even though its market share may decrease.
 
Wow those are the opposite of a good example of how Samsung is doing something original.......

Watches and keyboards are nothing new and a "large phone" as an example of a good innovation? lololol.

Samsung phones and tablets before iPhone/iPad, then after. Any questions?

I'm not suggesting Samsung never copied Apple, but the two of you either just woke up from a 3 year long coma, or are completely ignorant to the facts of the last few years where Apple has been replicating, not innovating.

Watches, keyboards, multitasking, different sizes for phones and tablets aren't new, but they are new to Apple, and that's just a fact you'll have to make friends with.
 
If you mean compared to Android market share, that means diddly squat. While Android market share grows, its profits decreases due to more Android phone profits having to be shared by so many manufactures. Apples profits continue to increase every quarter even though its market share may decrease.

No I dont mean whole Android market share. Just samsung. Its smartphone/tablets marketshare are increasing at a much faster pace than Apple year-on-year as well as quarter-on-quarter.
 
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