Apple and SpaceX Reportedly 'Clashing' Over Satellite Texting Features

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Apple is not used to negotiating with an entity who controls the platform they use.

If SpaceX was Apple, it wouldn’t allow competitors to launch competing services and satellites on its rockets. Musk runs his companies extremely fairly, he is launching Bezos’ competing Starlink product after Bezos found no-one else could do it.

 

[marzfreerider]

Call "lobbying" for what it is, bribing.

 

[svish]

Interesting to read about the issues. Would love to see this feature in my country. But not sure when it will be made available. Waiting for it.

 

[liberte1776]

But no RCS over satellite? 🙄

 

[kalsta]

I don’t care, just blanket the earth with coverage so I dont have to pay ridiculous roaming charges when I am on a cruise ship …

Wow, you just took first world problems to a whole new level there.

Yes, let’s fill the sky with privately owned satellites so I can stream movies while I’m camping in the outback (in my 5 star glam airconditioned camper-van of course.)

 

[darkpaw]

Also Starlink was never turned off in Ukraine. This fake news emerged during Ukrainian advances. Starlink was never enabled in Russian territory, it was even disallowed by sanctions. This lead troops in Kursk and drone operators into thinking that Starlink was turned off but it was never enabled in these areas.

I think it was Sevastopol in Crimea, not Kursk, but yes, you're right.

Ukraine wanted to destroy Russia's ships via a drone strike and asked to have Starlink extended out to Sevastopol, but it couldn't have been done due to sanctions on Russia and Russian-controlled territory such as Crimea.

 

[FoxyKaye]

I think it was Sevastopol in Crimea, not Kursk, but yes, you're right.

Ukraine wanted to destroy Russia's ships via a drone strike and asked to have Starlink extended out to Sevastopol, but it couldn't have been done due to sanctions on Russia and Russian-controlled territory such as Crimea.

Nothing to do with sanctions. Musk himself made the call.

 

[jecowa]

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I think Multi-Bill is sad because his hunger can never be satisfied. Nothing is ever enough for him.

 

[darkpaw]

Nothing to do with sanctions. Musk himself made the call.

Well, I just found this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/09/14/musk-internet-access-crimea-ukraine/

Musk didn't turn off access in Sevastopol; it was never on in the first place. Ukraine thought it was enabled but turned off, and called Musk to turn it on but he wouldn't have been able to anyway because of US sanctions against Russia, and would've needed explicit US government permission that didn't come.

I am no fan of Elmo - at all - but I am a fan of the truth.

 

[Graphate]

Well, I just found this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/09/14/musk-internet-access-crimea-ukraine/

Musk didn't turn off access in Sevastopol; it was never on in the first place. Ukraine thought it was enabled but turned off, and called Musk to turn it on but he wouldn't have been able to anyway because of US sanctions against Russia, and would've needed explicit US government permission that didn't come.

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Sort of, and it doesn’t look like the snopes article was ever finished. This is just more elaboration to conclude the snopes article:
The US department of the treasury interprets executive orders to prohibit the “importation into the United States, directly or indirectly, of any goods, services, or technology from the Crimea region of Ukraine.”

I would say it’s reasonable to conclude starlink is a service, and cannot be imported. But it might also be reasonable to conclude it is an authorized transaction, because the target or perhaps the intent of the executive orders are against Russia and its supporters, and not Ukrainians and their supporters.