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Good money can often be made by going against conventional wisdom. Think about it.

I did in 1997 when I bought AAPL. I'm not sure buying MSFT is "going against conventional wisdom" though. I just don't see the point. What is new and potentially exciting in Microsoft's future? Where is the upside potential?
 
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As much as I get wood over Apples potential new products, I'm glad I have a MacBook Pro with the sculpted keyboard. The MacBook keyboard just doesn't do it for me...

Faster would be *BOING* and Blu-ray would be *BOING* but I can wait. If it has the 'new' ridiculous keyboard, I can pass on it and feel good (and hope my MacBook Pro lasts forever)...
 
Where is the upside potential? (Microsoft)

Well, yes, Gates left and Balmer won't have the guard rails of Bill Gates...

I predict tough times for Microsoft ahead.

Well, but at least they are supposed to do scripting in the next Mac Office (well, as of a few months ago).
 
I did in 1997 when I bought AAPL. I'm not sure buying MSFT is "going against conventional wisdom" though. I just don't see the point. What is new and potentially exciting in Microsoft's future? Where is the upside potential?

That's exactly the point.

You don't have to have something new and exciting when you have $20+ billion in earnings per year and a stock that has stagnated for a decade. Eventually any company, no matter how boring, can be undervalued. I know that can be tough for an investor or fan of Apple to understand, but even the evil empire can be undervalued.

There will definitely be another time for owners of MSFT to be glad they're there. Remember, earning 12% per year will make you rich, very rich. And Apple, no matter how much people around here hope, will not earn investors 50% per year in perpetuity.
 
I wonder if one of those new products could be a midtower? A budget machine would be a great addition considering the current economy.

They already have a budget machine. They just went a little...lot overboard on the size to a point where its not very attractive to the buyer.
 
Except that it would never be allowed by the antitrust folks.

In fact Microsoft basically had to pay to keep Apple afloat after Spindler and Amelio drove the company into the ground just to keep the Justice Department off their backs. I bet they wish they propped up Amiga now.
 
Well, I was a little surprised when I saw the after hours hit, Apple is really the only company proping up my portfolio right now in this wonderful economy. :( :eek:

I think I may sell some of my other stocks tomorrow to move some money around and pick up more AAPL (at this "discount";))

Maybe the street wasn't, but I was very impressed with the numbers. Keep up the great work :apple:!
 
Enterprise Push with iPhone 3G

- Significant interest in Enterprise adoption for the iPhone 3G.

I for one welcome the chance to see a vertical integration market open up for Apple in the Enterprise space. This was one of our [NeXT's] original goals when we merged with Apple.

Bring it on. Hell I might even be interested in going back to Cupertino, CA if they take the Enterprise serious, once more.

The margins in those areas are much larger.
 
That's exactly the point.

You don't have to have something new and exciting when you have $20+ billion in earnings per year and a stock that has stagnated for a decade. Eventually any company, no matter how boring, can be undervalued. I know that can be tough for an investor or fan of Apple to understand, but even the evil empire can be undervalued.

There will definitely be another time for owners of MSFT to be glad they're there. Remember, earning 12% per year will make you rich, very rich. And Apple, no matter how much people around here hope, will not earn investors 50% per year in perpetuity.

Well, that was a ridiculous response on just about every level.

Certainly any company can become undervalued, but you forget that the markets set value every day. The markets are full of huge companies reporting massive sums of income, but are otherwise growing very slowly. These are usually called "value" investments. The problem with MSFT as a value investment is that their stock has been almost completely stagnant for about six years now. A person could die before a stock like that is suddenly recognized by the markets as "undervalued." For that to happen, the company would have to show some real growth potential, or better yet, growth itself. Microsoft has never demonstrated a capacity to grow outside of its core markets in operating systems and software, and the limits of their growth in those markets are showing. Apple has shown the ability to create and exploit new markets, which is why they are a classic "growth" investment.

And no, it won't go on forever. It never does.
 
In fact Microsoft basically had to pay to keep Apple afloat after Spindler and Amelio drove the company into the ground just to keep the Justice Department off their backs. I bet they wish they propped up Amiga now.

In fact this is a complete myth. Microsoft did not "keep Apple afloat." Not only did Apple have over a billion dollars in cash on hand at the time at the time, the Microsoft "investment" in Apple was a settlement for a long-standing lawsuit. Neither a rescue nor the Department of Justice had a single thing to do with it.

Die myth, die.
 
would be nice if they spent some more time on perfecting designs before shipping out to the public: r and d. higher quality displays, parts. i am glad for them but what about us who support them? something nice apple: something really worth what we pay. someting that really differs our purchases from the competition.

more time and money on securities and flawless os's. dual cap output ipod again: why did we only have it with ipod shuffle 1g?
 
iphone enterprise comment from Apple..

Well this annoys me.. in the UK you CANNOT buy an iphone from APPLE on the business tariffs.. these are only available vie O2 or an O2 reseller..

So the Apple store for business (in the UK at least) cannot sell business price plans.. to business customers.

Doesn't seem that they are THAT interested in enterprise customers!
 
1.0 EPS Guidance...

Apple needs to let go from these ridiculously low estimates for their quarters.
Everybody knows this by now and expects them to beat by far anyway... it tanks the stock every freakin time.

In addition, it overshadows the actual quarter results by far.

As a stockholder, this makes me crazy.
 
Does anyone have the podcast for Apple 2nd quarter 2008 Conference Call

Does anyone have the podcast for Apple 2nd quarter 2008 Conference Call that they could post on the web and send me a link to download.
 
tired of the stock tanking!!!! Grrrrr

I have to admit I am also tired of the stock tanking after every financial statement each quarter! It is really annoying! YOu would think the market would know that Apple will beat their very conservative numbers every time. Get a clue folks... Oh well great time to buy!! :)
 
Redesigned MacBook Pros and MacBooks?
iLife '09 and iWork '09?
Updated iPods?
Mini-tablet? :cool:
New iPod socks? :rolleyes:

For what? It can't all be iPhone development... can it?

you do understand that apple has to pay it's employees...... pay for advertising....... the material costs for computers/ipods etc......
 
Greed

That would explain why they had to charge everyone 20.00 for the Apps :mad:they released right after X-Mas while giving them away free to anyone that bought a new one for free.It's obvious they're starving
 
1.0 EPS Guidance...

Apple needs to let go from these ridiculously low estimates for their quarters.
Everybody knows this by now and expects them to beat by far anyway... it tanks the stock every freakin time.

In addition, it overshadows the actual quarter results by far.

As a stockholder, this makes me crazy.

If you think it happens every time why not short 10% of your holdings and by back in for twice that as it starts to climb back? :)
 
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