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...After reading the comments here and exploring the Apple site, I now understand the target demographic for this device: It's a status-symbol netbook for life-coaches, noodle-armed hipsters, MBAs on the go, and people who buy lots of shoes. It's perfect to whip-out at the Rotary Club, it's perfect for checking Facebook before your next yoga class or open house showing when everybody else is using a mere iPad. It'll go great with your iWatch. :rolleyes:

I enjoyed your post. It was impressive. Before going to sleep the same words came into my mind about this device being nothing more, nothing less than a status symbol.
By the way, you have forgot, it will go great even with the gold iPhone 6. ;)
 
I usually don't post this late into a thread. However, it is clear that the haters have taken over posting the stupidest ideas.

I just returned from an early Saturday business meeting. The presenter had a Powerpoint presentation. Before beginning, he mentioned he had to replace his Windows laptop because the display went bad. He talked about spending most of yesterday getting the computer ready to use. Then he tried to get his laptop to run the presentation on the projector. It wouldn't work. He needed to FIND and install a new driver.

Then I had him email me the presentation. I opened my MacBook Pro; hooked it to the projector; and ran the presentation.

When, I bought my laptop. I just plugged it in and it worked.

Another colleague out of desperation bought a MacBook Pro while on a major business trip. It was for a million dollar account and her Windows machine broke. (Yes, that could also happen to a Mac) She was amazed that she turned on the new machine; installed MS Office and OneDrive; and everything she needed was there. It just worked. No hours of finding drivers and removing junk software.

Yea, Mac laptops are just status symbols :)

BTW, She and I bought high end MacBook Pros. However, the new 12-Inch Retina has plenty of power to do what we use it for to

MAKE MONEY.

Yea, Mac laptops are just status symbols :)
 
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Does the MacBook have smaller bezels than the Retina MacBook Pro? Or is it the same?
 
I usually don't post this late into a thread. However, it is clear that the haters have taken over posting the stupidest ideas.

I just returned from an early Saturday business meeting. The presenter had a Powerpoint presentation. Before beginning, he mentioned he had to replace his Windows laptop because the display went bad. He talked about spending most of yesterday getting the computer ready to use. Then he tried to get his laptop to run the presentation on the projector. It wouldn't work. He needed to FIND and install a new driver.

Then I had him email me the presentation. I opened my MacBook Pro; hooked it to the projector; and ran the presentation.

When, I bought my laptop. I just plugged it in and it worked.

Another colleague out of desperation bought a MacBook Pro while on a major business trip. It was for a million dollar account and her Windows machine broke. (Yes, that could also happen to a Mac) She was amazed that she turned on the new machine; installed MS Office and OneDrive; and everything she needed was there. It just worked. No hours of finding drivers and removing junk software.

Yea, Mac laptops are just status symbols :)

BTW, She and I bought high end MacBook Pros. However, the new 12-Inch Retina has plenty of power to do what we use it for to

MAKE MONEY.

Yea, Mac laptops are just status symbols :)

Hey I liked reading your post and you are absolutely right!

Most people on this board don't realise that their criticism is not an actual review, but just a perspective on how they PERCEIVE it.

In this thread, it just tells us how they look at MacBooks. If they think someone is going to buy a macbook to gloat in a coffeeshop, let them! Maybe that guy/girl is onto a million dollar deal on FaceTime with his/her macbook, or writing a new hit novel! Or maybe not, I don't care. I try to ignore most bitter people, or analyse what kind of person might say something like that. (psychologist here)

I bet the macbook will be very popular, and I will consider one next year, because my rmbp is just overpowered and all I need is a good interface. Also I barely plug something into my rmbp besides power and my iphone.
 
I usually don't post this late into a thread. However, it is clear that the haters have taken over posting the stupidest ideas.

I just returned from an early Saturday business meeting. The presenter had a Powerpoint presentation. Before beginning, he mentioned he had to replace his Windows laptop because the display went bad. He talked about spending most of yesterday getting the computer ready to use. Then he tried to get his laptop to run the presentation on the projector. It wouldn't work. He needed to FIND and install a new driver.

Then I had him email me the presentation. I opened my MacBook Pro; hooked it to the projector; and ran the presentation.

When, I bought my laptop. I just plugged it in and it worked.

Another colleague out of desperation bought a MacBook Pro while on a major business trip. It was for a million dollar account and her Windows machine broke. (Yes, that could also happen to a Mac) She was amazed that she turned on the new machine; installed MS Office and OneDrive; and everything she needed was there. It just worked. No hours of finding drivers and removing junk software.

Yea, Mac laptops are just status symbols :)

BTW, She and I bought high end MacBook Pros. However, the new 12-Inch Retina has plenty of power to do what we use it for to

MAKE MONEY.

Yea, Mac laptops are just status symbols :)

You sure about this? I have concerns about even some basic web browsing with this machine's specs and that HiDPI screen.
 
I don't know how well-suited for multimedia work this new MacBook will be, going by the processor speed, that single port, etc. Even a new MacBook Air would probably do a better job editing video than this!
 
I bet the macbook will be very popular, and I will consider one next year, because my rmbp is just overpowered and all I need is a good interface. Also I barely plug something into my rmbp besides power and my iphone.

thats 2 ports to the macbooks 1.

however with your needs. but would you sell your rmbp for a machine that isnt much cheaper because its a) less powerful and b) has fewer ports?
 
thats 2 ports to the macbooks 1.

however with your needs. but would you sell your rmbp for a machine that isnt much cheaper because its a) less powerful and b) has fewer ports?

I don't mind. Less powerful I might not notice considering my needs.
Regarding the fewer ports, only in the occasion that both my iphone & laptop are almost down AND there's no other charger for the iphone around...that's not common for me :)

I will also certainly welcome the portability :)
 
Off the top of my head, the following extremely common tasks will not be possible without an adapter (assuming Macbook is plugged in):

1. Use of an external display.
2. Use of external hard drive or USB flash drive for data or time machine backups.
3. No wired printer or scanner connectivity
4. No wired keyboard or mouse connectivity
5. Cannot charge iPhone, iPad or other USB device.
6. Cannot import photos from camera using SD card.
7. Cannot get wired networking.

I guess you completely missed the bit about 'welcome to a world without wires' ...if all that is what you're expecting to be able to do. The new MacBook is not for you. Clearly.

Plus. It won't be long before all of those things, hell most of them already are, become wireless in the 'everyday' world.
 
I don't mind. Less powerful I might not notice considering my needs.
Regarding the fewer ports, only in the occasion that both my iphone & laptop are almost down AND there's no other charger for the iphone around...that's not common for me :)

I will also certainly welcome the portability :)

im not one to recommend people get something more powerful than they need. the price, lack of another port or 2 and no included adapter irritate me with this one.

you got the 13" rmbp? you think you will feel big difference in portability?
 
We also have mobile needs that go beyond browsing and Facetime. I was hoping to use it for this: http://www.waves.com/audio-networking#live and this https://www.small-tree.com/solutions/audio

You have to exploring these links will give you an understanding of why the pros are so pissed. Please check them before dismissing our guidance.

After reading the comments here and exploring the Apple site, I now understand the target demographic for this device: It's a status-symbol netbook for life-coaches, noodle-armed hipsters, MBAs on the go, and people who buy lots of shoes. It's perfect to whip-out at the Rotary Club, it's perfect for checking Facebook before your next yoga class or open house showing when everybody else is using a mere iPad. It'll go great with your iWatch. :rolleyes:

Don't dis the pros just because we're disappointed. -We're also tender from the Mac Mini fiasco, so this burns our collective arses even more.

The good news? You can probably get a discount on the new Macbook if you dress as an extra from Portlandia or bring your Pilates mat. But I could be mistaken. ;)

One more thing: You're not going to be :coding on the go" with this machine and we both know it.

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:D A sharke-out, yes. :p These things tend to spread throughout product lines. When the old Macbook Air is kicking the ass of the new Macbook, that spells trouble with a capital, multicultural, gender-neutral :apple: Emoji.:rolleyes:

Looking for a 2010-2012 Mac Pro, but sellers are gouging and they know why.
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You people seriously need to get off your elitist high horse. There are other more suitable options for you and you know it, so I fail to see why you are whining here over one option by Apple that simply doesn't suit your needs.

I personally think the concept of this Macbook is perfect for me. I am currently using a 2012 11" MBA, have the infrastructure to support it at work, and the current Macbook would actually represent an upgrade in every sense. It has longer battery life, a better display, is more portable, and the adaptor would actually allow me to hook it up to my monitor by plugging in just one cable, not 3.

Different people, different needs. Your problem is thinking that somehow, only yours matter.
 
Buying decision factors

I own a rMBP 15 and I plan on keeping it, but the new Macbook will be a welcome addition. I would like to have a very lightweight laptop for mainly surfing the internet, with a keyboard and Mac OS. Why not an Air? Mainly because of the screen resolution. I can definitely see the difference between retina and considerably less. Why not a 13 inch rMBP? There is a considerable weight difference, almost 1.3 lbs. Price is not a factor. The Macbook is expensive, but you are getting a very capable machine with the ability to do probably more than you think it can do. 8GB of Ram, and 256 Flash storage is pretty good as a base model. You would have to be into serious video or music editing to need a more powerful CPU.

Apple has targeted a wide market with this device. If it doesn't fit your needs then move up to a more powerful computer.
 
First, do no harm...

Hey I liked reading your post and you are absolutely right!

Most people on this board don't realise that their criticism is not an actual review, but just a perspective on how they PERCEIVE it.

In this thread, it just tells us how they look at MacBooks. If they think someone is going to buy a macbook to gloat in a coffeeshop, let them! Maybe that guy/girl is onto a million dollar deal on FaceTime with his/her macbook, or writing a new hit novel! Or maybe not, I don't care. I try to ignore most bitter people, or analyse what kind of person might say something like that. (psychologist here)

I bet the macbook will be very popular, and I will consider one next year, because my rmbp is just overpowered and all I need is a good interface. Also I barely plug something into my rmbp besides power and my iphone.

Alright fine, but the spec doesn't lie. I just hope :apple: doesn't wreck the Macbook Pro line because it's an important line.

As a psychologist, you should be familiar with the phrase, "Perception is reality..." As for me, my critical essays aren't to persuade you from buying this Macbook. A pattern has been established by Apple. They are dividing its computers into two lines: The incredibly overpriced but high performance 6-12 core Mac Pros and the incredibly overpriced consumer macs that -just- don't quite meet the A/V spec for particular tasks like they did in 2012 even running today's software. -That's bad for consumer choice. But hey, it's a free shareholder's meeting. -That was a slip. ;)

I'm all about mid-line consumer options: Apple has turned what used to be a gentle performance/option/price curve into a suddenly steep and sharp one. It's a hollowing-out of the "low-pro" line, and that's not good for any of us, you included. You're being gouged so that you can run iTunes and Powerpoint on a $1300 netbook. -That not bitterness, that's an illumination of specification, and a disappointing pattern has been established by Apple.

Apple already gave a triple dose of Thorazine to the Mac Mini line, and now they're onto the MacBooks. Don't "quone" the messenger. I sincerely look forward to being proved completely wrong in my reservations about Apple's direction over the next 5 years.

Don't forget to chart! ;)
 
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We're on Full Fanboy Alert!

You people seriously need to get off your elitist high horse. There are other more suitable options for you and you know it, so I fail to see why you are whining here over one option by Apple that simply doesn't suit your needs.

I personally think the concept of this Macbook is perfect for me. I am currently using a 2012 11" MBA, have the infrastructure to support it at work, and the current Macbook would actually represent an upgrade in every sense. It has longer battery life, a better display, is more portable, and the adaptor would actually allow me to hook it up to my monitor by plugging in just one cable, not 3.

Different people, different needs. Your problem is thinking that somehow, only yours matter.

I've never owned a horse in my life.
 
You people seriously need to get off your elitist high horse. There are other more suitable options for you and you know it, so I fail to see why you are whining here over one option by Apple that simply doesn't suit your needs.

I personally think the concept of this Macbook is perfect for me. I am currently using a 2012 11" MBA, have the infrastructure to support it at work, and the current Macbook would actually represent an upgrade in every sense. It has longer battery life, a better display, is more portable, and the adaptor would actually allow me to hook it up to my monitor by plugging in just one cable, not 3.

Different people, different needs. Your problem is thinking that somehow, only yours matter.

so only those that it suits can comment?

why do you need 3 cables plugged in to connect your mba to a display?
 
...Different people, different needs. Your problem is thinking that somehow, only yours matter.

This statement of yours works vice versa as well. It can be said about you too.
And will you please stop labeling Members as whiners because they have a different opinion.
We got it, you like it. There are others who don't, that's it.

so only those that it suits can comment?

Yes, and please refrain from expressing an opinion that is different from the "main flow", otherwise you are a whiner or complainer. Plus don't forget the "golden, unversal argument": "It is not made for you, go by an rMBP".;)
 
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I don't know how well-suited for multimedia work this new MacBook will be, going by the processor speed, that single port, etc. Even a new MacBook Air would probably do a better job editing video than this!

it wont be very powerfull, but the benchmarks aren't out on it yet.

You can't really look at the Mhz of this particular laptop in Comparison to the Air's. They're using different designed CPU's.

The base macbook air's are using intel's I5 ULV CPU (5200u currently)
The MacBook is using the new Intel Core M CPU. the Core M is meant to be a CPU in between the Atom (also called an Atom Premium) and the i3.

you probably could do some work on it, but this laptop is by no means aimed for any power lifting.
 
Much of what is discussed here is a rerun of the discussions when Apple introduced Thunderbolt.

Namely:

Apple is very forward thinking. Thunderbolt will solve all your problems.

Just wait, Thunderbolt hubs will quickly come to market, Thunderbolt docks for laptops are just around the corner.

Thunderbolt is the future, anyone who argues otherwise is a deluded luddite.

One Thunderbolt port to rule them all. Thunderbolt will make USB 3 obsolete. (Luckily Apple hedged their bets by including USB 3 ports.)

Loudest argument: Trust Apple--they know what they're doing with Thunderbolt.

Years later, we all know about the expensive, barren and stagnant Thunderbolt landscape.

And now, Apple is killing off Thunderbolt with USB-C...

Soon, the marketplace will deliver all the USB-C dongles you need to solve the problem of having only one port.

Right?
 
Much of what is discussed here is a rerun of the discussions when Apple introduced Thunderbolt.

Namely:

Apple is very forward thinking. Thunderbolt will solve all your problems.

Just wait, Thunderbolt hubs will quickly come to market, Thunderbolt docks for laptops are just around the corner.

Thunderbolt is the future, anyone who argues otherwise is a deluded luddite.

One Thunderbolt port to rule them all. Thunderbolt will make USB 3 obsolete. (Luckily Apple hedged their bets by including USB 3 ports.)

Loudest argument: Trust Apple--they know what they're doing with Thunderbolt.

Years later, we all know about the expensive, barren and stagnant Thunderbolt landscape.

And now, Apple is killing off Thunderbolt with USB-C...

Soon, the marketplace will deliver all the USB-C dongles you need to solve the problem of having only one port.

Right?

Very good points and timely.
 
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