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The big government training I remember is the one to train fast food workers to work as cashiers pushing buttons that actually had the pictures of the checked-out hamburgers on them. And the thing is ... it actually _was_ a job! Also ... special visa to bring in already educated-and-trained tech workers. MUCH less expensive than working on a curriculum to train them here in USA.🍸😼
 
I hate that everything is made in China. We need to wake up and realise China is an enemy not a friend. The more companies who move their manufacturing out of China the better.

It doesn't help that Trump has attacked Canada and Mexico which has very integrated economy with the US. Trump seems to think the US is strong enough to take on the whole world in a trade war.

Trump has caused like 80% av the population in the Western world outside the US to not trust America anymore.
 
It doesn't help that Trump has attacked Canada and Mexico which has very integrated economy with the US. Trump seems to think the US is strong enough to take on the whole world in a trade war.

Trump has caused like 80% av the population in the Western world outside the US to not trust America anymore.
Agreed. Trump only seems to like Putin and Rocket Man from North Korea. Imposing tariffs on everyone will not bring jobs back to US, it will just put prices up for everyone. What does he care, he’s a billionaire and so are all his backers.

I wonder how many US consumers will be happy to pay higher prices for their next iPhone or Mac.
 
Is working at a factory the American Dream? It seems so....
What’s wrong with using your own hands to craft something in a factory setting? Is this something we shouldn’t be proud to do? If the working conditions and wage are acceptable, I’d say it’s a dream.
 
The irony in these comments is striking. Individuals who express strong anti-Trump sentiments yet hold an affinity for Apple products fail to recognize the deceptive nature of Apple’s marketing tactics. They willingly pay premium prices for products that offer minimal value.


Having resided in China for several years, I have observed that the Chinese often find amusement in the United States due to its remarkable diversity. This diversity has led to the emergence of individuals who harbor deep-seated anti-American sentiments and actively seek to undermine the nation’s success. These individuals are willing to align themselves with China solely for financial gain.


Based on the comments provided, it is evident that your aspiration is for America to fail. I firmly believe in the principle of “Making America Great Again” after the four years of blasphemy. It is crucial for individuals to recognize that Apple is not a benevolent entity and should not be regarded as some company that cares. they care about their bottom line which are profits. not their customer base.
 
Spelling errors and poor grammar in worldwide communication is utterly pathetic for the leader of the United States, and the world DOES pay attention to typos. It suggests he's a moron and isn't detail minded.

You'd feel pretty embarrassed if Tim allowed typos in the documentation that comes with a $2700 MacBook Pro, like it's some $29.95 Amazon import with spelling mistakes.

"Please to insert MagSafe cord cable into slot opening."
Tweeting something off the cuff and having a team of writers and editors review documentation for months are two different things. If anything this shows how atrocious Siri continues to be with it's spellcheck. Not the win you think it is.

The reality is most Americans don’t have any experience making any products.

I manufacture scientific gadgets in China. The kind of stocking stuffers you’d buy for the nerd in your life at Christmas or for their birthday. Stuff like gauss meters and soldering kits and such.

Anyways. None of the manufacturing for these sub components even exists in the US. I’d love to make this stuff in Wisconsin, but there ain’t a factory making transistors or capacitors or PCBs over there. China has it all. There’s 2 blocks next to each other in Hong Kong where I can get my packaging made, documentation, there’s English speaking electronics engineer and the actual factory next door.

None of that exists in the US. And 3 years of a prez administration isn’t going to change it. And yes the administration is only 3 years long. The entire 4th year is the campaign for the next one.
We did. We gave that all away for better profits. People here aren't idiots though. They can relearn.

Meanwhile Intel and Foxconn promised him much the same in 2017 and 8 years on? Nothing built.

These promises don't mean much if the can is kicked down the road.
Well you did have COVID that upended the world's economy, then 4 years of Biden. No wonder stuff didn't get done.

It's LOOOOL funny that the Trump admin's plan is just tariffs and THAT'S IT. If they were serious about this plan they'd also be pouring BILLIONS of federal dollars into American manufacturing, creating education opportunities for domestic workers to get the knowledge they need to succeed, creating resource guides for consumers so they can buy American made products, etc.

buuuut nope. They just implement tariffs, US consumers pay more, nothing actually happens on US soil. I realize this article is about *something* happening on US soil, but this is the richest company in the history of humanity. They could have done this years ago.
That's not the government's job. It's up to private individuals, corporations, tech schools, union shops, to provide that education. This isn't Russia. Tariffs are there to incentivize the economy in general, to come up with solutions. Last thing in the world you want is to place the government in charge of education. You'll have students graduating from school who can't read or do simple math, just like the kids in Detroi... 🤯

What do you mean by sanity is back?
The dude that's been grifting American tax dollars for the last 50 years is gone.
 
Apple has made pretty sizable investments in the UK, that actually got built. The Battersea power station corporate office is massive.

The thing about US politics is... this is all performative. Like storefronts on a studio backlot. Looks pretty, but tips over in a breeze. We won't see anything really come from this. Politicians don't direct large companies here, large companies temporarily appease politicians... and then change their plans as they desire. There's no real accountability. All smoke and mirrors. If Apple backtracks on this promise 3 years from now as Trump is in a lame duck condition... nobody is gonna sue them.

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Interesting but the way Trump is acting right now, I dont think these big companies would want to upset him? Also the $500 billion for Stargate, surly this will happen?
 
4 more years guys relax….. some people hate trump and Elon that much that they even can’t celebrate more jobs for the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Please send this to the Reddit guys….. i know it hurts. C. harder :)

 
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It really is shocking how people think Republican presidents are good for the economy, despite all evidence to the contrary.

In the last 35 years...

Every Republican administration since the first Bush has led us into recession.
Job creation is better under Democrats.
Budget deficits are lowered under Democrats.
The last years with budget surpluses were under a Democrat.
GDP Growth is better under Democrats.
The stock market is better under Democrats.
 
when the students are being indoctrinated with communist ideology, it is time to dismantle the system. You think it takes a college degree to be a software engineer??? I left a job running heavy equipment to become one! I learned to code! (As the last regime told the people it laid off)
Right wing garbage. There is no communism being taught in schools. Particularly in STEM courses it's coding, math and engineering. No time for that.

My daughters are in 2nd and 3rd grade. Republicans think something has changed. Nope. It's as you and I remember it, except the textbooks are now Chromebooks. Some material is taught earlier than it used to be.

Do law and psychology grad students need to be know about CRT? Do economics students need to know about communism and every other form of market control? Bet your ass they do.
 
It doesn't help that Trump has attacked Canada and Mexico which has very integrated economy with the US. Trump seems to think the US is strong enough to take on the whole world in a trade war.

Trump has caused like 80% av the population in the Western world outside the US to not trust America anymore.
More than you know. The big news in Denmark today revolves around the billions we need to spend in defence hardware, and that we should not buy them from American sources because we can’t trust that they are operational if US doesn’t want them to be. And we are a small country - if EU stops buying war machines from US, Trump just lost the US trillions in revenue over the next decade, simply by being a prick.
 
4 more years guys relax….. some people hate trump and Elon that much that they even can’t celebrate more jobs for the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
US has the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, and if it goes a few tenths of a percent lower, it will be at full capacity and the economy will suffer. Adding manufacturing jobs is not possible without importing the workforce to do it, which isn’t quite the current strategy. The only other option - and this is likely exactly the plan - is to move Americans from medium wage office jobs into low-paying manufacturing jobs, making the work force poorer, and the factory owners richer.
 
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Tim Cook acts like a politician. For example, whenever Cook was asked why he didn't let Apple do more manufacturing in the U.S. rather than in China, he gave this excuse that manufacturing in China wasn't just for lower costs, but because of China's greater manufacturing infrastructure and expertise. But no one challenged Cook to explain WHY China has better manufacturing infrastructure and expertise. It's because decades ago, money-hungry companies like Apple shifted their manufacturing to China, thus creating the environment for China to grow that beneficial environment and workforce. In an alternate reality, if companies like Apple had kept their manufacturing in the U.S., then that same awesome manufacturing infrastructure and expertise would have been in the U.S. today, not in China. I hate it when people in the Media, who interview Tim Cook, never press him on that point.
Well, did you ask the follow up WHY question?
Why did companies shift their manufacturing to China? No, you just went with a shallow minded "money-hungry" label and left it at that.
 
Tim Cook acts like a politician. For example, whenever Cook was asked why he didn't let Apple do more manufacturing in the U.S. rather than in China, he gave this excuse that manufacturing in China wasn't just for lower costs, but because of China's greater manufacturing infrastructure and expertise. But no one challenged Cook to explain WHY China has better manufacturing infrastructure and expertise. It's because decades ago, money-hungry companies like Apple shifted their manufacturing to China, thus creating the environment for China to grow that beneficial environment and workforce. In an alternate reality, if companies like Apple had kept their manufacturing in the U.S., then that same awesome manufacturing infrastructure and expertise would have been in the U.S. today, not in China. I hate it when people in the Media, who interview Tim Cook, never press him on that point.
Yes, let’s pretend Japan and Korea doesn’t exist.
 
How will this affect product quality, made in America has not the best reputation here in Europe. I own a car and some other products build in the states and I can see why.
We shall see. I refuse to buy another American made car because of quality issues I’ve experienced in the past

I trust Apple when it comes to quality control though
 
It doesn't help that Trump has attacked Canada and Mexico which has very integrated economy with the US. Trump seems to think the US is strong enough to take on the whole world in a trade war.

Trump has caused like 80% av the population in the Western world outside the US to not trust America anymore.
We moved up a notch. Prior to trump 100% of the world was laughing at us..
 
You think we’re going to see more software engineers as republicans dismantle what’s left of public education and prioritize funds for new computers to new police cruisers?

We’re going to see more people needing government assistance because their Walmart gig won’t stock their fridge.

You seem to think we’re on a path we’re not on. China invested in their students. The US invests in pharma, oil compnanies, defense contracts and billionaire interests.
Sure, 5th highest amount spent per pupil compared to the 37 other OECD countries. You seem to think the money being spent is actually going to educating US students in the things required for software engineers. Perhaps we need another approach than what has been tried for the last 50 years or so?
 
Wall Street Journal is reporting that the money pledge was already in the books and planned. Nothing new as being added in the last five years Apple has spent in the neighborhood of $1.3 trillion in increased operations and manufacturing. In the same. Going forward the projection is about 1.1 to $1.2 trillion. The $500 billion is just a part of that.

"In short, Apple’s announced figure is in line with what one might expect the company to be spending anyway, given its financials."
 
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You need to be looking at where schools are today. Ohio is proposing a $300 million cut to public education. The cuts are even larger in Texas and Arizona. A Mac lab proposal I was working on got cut. -80 iMacs. This for a top school district in Ohio. Rural ones underperforming are facing even more drastic cuts, like… no more math tutors. Goodbye bussing kids, hope the parents have jobs where they can drive them.

This is happening all over the country. We don’t prioritize education because our politicians prefer a dumber population.

Software engineering is seen like calculus, “optional” and for the smartest. Somewhat paradoxically there has been less programming courses available in public schools since 2000, not more.

You need to get boots on the ground and actually attend school board meetings to see how many holes we’re bleeding from. I know you’ve got a rose tinted glasses idea of what you’d like US education to be, but it’s drifting away from that presently.

In the meantime, we graduate uncurious rubes who barely got through basic math, can’t read at a 6th grade level and certainly don’t go on to college… and China and India spit out engineers.
Everything stated is because we tried the -throw money at it- solution almost half a century. Meanwhile those in charge padded their pockets at the expense of our youth. Time for new ideas and to tell the "experts" to take a seat.
 
You’re not wrong. Education is being pared down. Down to education tax credits on the chopping block. Your road to an education is made much harder for families.

This is the haves vs the have nots. Anything else is noise designed to get you focused on other things. Be mad at immigrants. Be mad at dei. Anyone but the rich who want to stay that way and are licking their chops smiling at you as you cheer them on.
Is that what Karl wrote?
 
Yet curiously there's no commitment to even building any of that locally.

Why? Because it's smoke and mirrors. Good, useful PR that gets the heat off Apple's back until they can wait out the administration.Trump thinks he's a good politician, but Tim Cook is a good politician. 'Ole Cook has been through many presidents, and played Trump like a fiddle last time, he's just doing it again.
Waits out the administration for what? What exactly comes next? Same ole same ole where instead of investment promises, it's a kickback? At least someone is trying.
 
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