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That would be incredibly stupid and cost them sales. Customers for high-class cars tend to prefer high-class phones. Mercedes and BMW will be quite happy if this is true.

I completely agree with you. But I'm sad to say they've joined the OAA or Open Automotive Alliance ran by none other than Google. Honestly, even if CarPlay never comes to Audi, Audi's MMI itself is really good and I wouldn't want to see that be destroyed by Android.

Edit: It looks like there's some hope in the future from this quote from CNET:
(Jan. 13, 2014) During a press conference, an Audi spokesperson said using Android was a "logical step" because the majority of the world's smart phones run it. But he added the German car firm is in talks with Apple about bringing iOS to its dashboards. http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/audi-in-discussion-with-apple-to-bring-ios-to-its-motors-50013217/

Also, Honda is part of the OAA as well as an adopter of CarPlay. So it's up in the air wether or not Audi adopts CarPlay. Overall, after writing this monster and doing some research, I predict Audi will adopt CarPlay as it doesn't want to leave out iOS users.
 
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Last year? try 2012, I was there, I played with it first hand.

It utilized playbooks and NFC, and it doesn't compare to carplay not in practice nor execution.
2 years later and nothing, the "concept" isn't even offered by Porsche.

Ps: your factually incorrect. iPod integration was not just a line in connector or as you put it a harness. It was much more complicated than that.

https://www.apple.com/ipod/car-integration/#mercedes

But what do you know.

Ps: just got back from mwc 14, I even played with qnx's new car at Qualcomm's booth. Wasn't impressed and there was no immediate plans for a launch (it wasn't as polished as carplay, which is commercially launching this week at the Geneva autoshow).

I also played with it. I was in the Porsche when it came to BlackBerry HQ a year and a bit ago. It uses PlayBook's as an extension of the core experience. Yeah it didn't amount to much yet in the production world, but you asked for similar implementations. SYNC and QNX are similar in some of the offerings.

As for the iPod integration, it actually was as easy and plugging in a harness. If your OEM headunit did not have the controller built in to be able to speak with the iPod the harness usually had an inline module within the harness itself that facilitated this requirement. I've installed a couple before they became standard in most vehicles. It isn't some heavy duty requirement. Just a brain to be able to translate track data to the vehicle's OEM headunit.

This is all getting way off track. My original point was about CarPlay not 'revolutionizing' the automotive world like some people in this thread believe. Best case scenario, it's an optional add-on that will add functionality to the existing infotainment consoles and not replace them entirely.

I am in no way against CarPlay nor do I have anything negative to say about it. I'm just being realistic. It's not just "high end" people that will use it nor is every "high end" person a user of an iPhone.
 
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The new Infiniti line, Q and QX models, support these features with a multi-touch navigation display for simple tapping on a destination or maps integration, the second display syncs with mobile devices. Currently, apps are loaded when the phone connects and contacts and calendars sync, texts/emails/etc. are read and Siri is integrated. Since it's software driven, the second display will support mobile device displays automatically. My family (grandfather started it, Uncle is CEO) owns dealerships with Infiniti/Nissan, BMW/Mini-Cooper, Porsche/VW, Lexus/Toyota, Maserati, Land Rover, and most have (or will) future "proofed" their lines with a second display that can be used in addition to the navigation screen.
 
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Talk about twisting words to suit your needs.

Neither Microsoft nor blackberry offer a solution even remotely similar to carplay.

One last time, who is apple copying with carplay?

How about a shipping example? Mirrorlink. The whole point of Mirrorlink was to provide the head unit to smartphone protocols needed to drive this sort of connectivity.

Samsung actually supports this in the S3/S4 using the Drive Link app.

But the downside is that is about the only devices actually shipping support on the smartphone side. Can buy head units that support it from Pioneer, Sony, and Kenwood's 2014 models support it.

Now, I don't think Apple is copying per se, but I am disappointed that they didn't just license MirrorLink unless it meant all 3rd party apps on iOS would also need to be MirrorLink certified, and create a burden on devs Apple didn't want which would stifle adoption.
 
Love articles like these where most everyone (quite predictably) sarcastically mentions Samsung/Google must OBVIOUSLY be going to announce the same thing...

Yet no one acknowledges Google Maps existed years before Apple got into the mapping game, a key component in this endeavor.

I fully understand Apple didn't "copy" Google Maps, but it's the same thing. Realize there are more that one way to skin a cat, people.
 
It tells you your using iOS in your car. And just because it's shorter doesn't make it Easyer to remember. iOS in the car is very easy to remember. Carplay we lead to Lots of questions and is harder to remember.

Not to just you doc but the whole name topic, why does anyone even need to remember it? You get in the car, plug in the cable and start controlling your phone via voice or dash touch screen. There really is nothing to have to remember about a name whether it be iOS in the car or CarPlay or whatever. And really does anyone need to remember that they are "using iOS in the car"? Maybe" iPhone in the car" would have been a better name if folks forget they are using their iPhone in the car and really need to know that. :)

Keep in mind most iPhone users (not macrumors visitors) have no idea what iOS even is or never even heard of it. So a BIG announcement about iOS in the car will leave them saying ' um ok wonder what that is all about?'
 
Before it launches they should have the car camera app so you can take photos in front and behind including 1080p video. And don't forget Touch ID and any other innovations. i don't want to have to buy a brand new car every year so they might as well include 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0 features in the car at launch.

...and a smoke screen button for tailgaters. Carplay changes the O2 fuel mix to push more smoke out of the exhaust.

....and heads-up display on and all exterior glass so you can notify other drivers to how bad their driving is.

....and stealth mode that turns off all lights and throws up a night vision heads-up on the windshield to evade traffic cops

...and ... gotta go my mom's calling me
 
If you have a car few years old how would It support it if the software is already in the car?
 
If you have a car few years old how would It support it if the software is already in the car?

It likely won't, even if not a few and just one year old.

I'd be more interested in seeing non-oem radio support.
 
It likely won't, even if not a few and just one year old.

I'd be more interested in seeing non-oem radio support.
Alright, I'm considering replacing mine because I hate the UI on it so I will have to wait and see if non-oem radios are supported.
 
incorrect. traffic services are run in the background in iOS as part of the OS, unless you disabled that feedback. if enabled it keeps track of you and and everybody else running iOS (anonymously) and notes your positions and speeds. this is what products the orange/red lines in Maps.

Oh interesting. I did not know that. Does that result in your battery being drained faster when you are in a car? How much does the phone query its location? I guess the phone is always doing that as it connects and disconnects to cell towers. But I didn't know that it was sending that information back to Apple all the time.

In that case, then Apple has all the information it can handle as in many locations a third of the cars on the road are likely to have an iPhone in them.

This should also be helping them update the roads on Maps as if they don't have a road in a certain place, but iPhones keep zipping along that location at 40 mph, then they can assume there is probably a road.
 
Well after many many reports, I hold no faith that that would stick either.

Are you talking about Google or Apple? I agree that maps problem reports with Apple Maps are useless and go nowhere. But Google Maps is completely different - with Map Maker, you literally make the edits yourself. They are reviewed by Google (quite quickly, often within 1-2 hours) and go live within a day or two.

For this reason, I think Google Maps will continue to be more up to date and correct than Apple Maps for the foreseeable future.
 
Not to just you doc but the whole name topic, why does anyone even need to remember it? You get in the car, plug in the cable and start controlling your phone via voice or dash touch screen. There really is nothing to have to remember about a name whether it be iOS in the car or CarPlay or whatever. And really does anyone need to remember that they are "using iOS in the car"? Maybe" iPhone in the car" would have been a better name if folks forget they are using their iPhone in the car and really need to know that. :)

Keep in mind most iPhone users (not macrumors visitors) have no idea what iOS even is or never even heard of it. So a BIG announcement about iOS in the car will leave them saying ' um ok wonder what that is all about?'

You make a good point that they don't really need to remember it. But if they want to look in to buying it it will help to have the name. And I think most iOS users know what iOS is. I do always need to remind my self people generally have no idea what I'm trying to tell them (witch is why this site is so awesome cuz people understand) but when they update to a new version of iOS like many people do don't you think they understand that by iOS apple means the system your phone runs on. Also a lot of people in ads say "available for iOS and android." So I think most iOS users know what iOS is.
 
Who would use this driving their brand new Ferrari. Apple maps is still a mess for me in the UK with missing streets and missing bends in the road.


Honda (2014 Civic, and New 2015 Honda Fit) is using the new HondaLink Nav, with SIRI (But not the full Apple experience at this time), and they are not using the Apple Maps, so those going with the new CarPlay may have another map maker, not Apple. Wait and see....

By Nokia HERE maps..

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/12/03/honda-introduces-new-iphone-driven-in-dash-touchscreen

HondaLink Nav NA for reference only $59.99 version 1.0.0 Dec 1st 2013
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id737070895?mt=8
 
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So why should I change my phone just so it will play nice with the car?

I love the absurd logic Apple is forcing consumers into. Why bother changing your $600 phone when you can simply swap out a $30,000 car, right?

If I was a car company, I wouldn't want to be locking my in-car platform to Apple like this. Due to the pitiful state of in-car nav and head units, I'm more excited about CarPlay than I'm willing to let on, but really this shouldn't be a closed solution. There should be an industry solution for letting a smartphone take over the head unit's screen.

And of course, I wish it was Bluetooth with USB/lightning there just for charging. My current POS head unit with lousy software has great support for Bluetooth audio.
 
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I agree that maps problem reports with Apple Maps are useless and go nowhere. But Google Maps is completely different - with Map Maker, you literally make the edits yourself. They are reviewed by Google (quite quickly, often within 1-2 hours) and go live within a day or two.

For this reason, I think Google Maps will continue to be more up to date and correct than Apple Maps for the foreseeable future.

I'm purging Google from my life wherever possible, but Apple is making it hard with their maps solution. You're right - problem reports go nowhere. I've submitted the same problem at least a dozen times. No response whatsoever. It's infuriating.

I used to rely on Waze as my trusty alternative. Then Google devoured them. So goodbye Waze. Curse you, Google.

Step up your game, Apple.
 
How is Google copying? Android has been installed in some cars for at least 6 months now, and MS has had their hands free setup in for a few years now.

Apple's "copying" as much as anyone.

not the way that iOS is with maps.

Just wait until google launches their version, it will be almost identical I'm sure.
 
Talk about twisting words to suit your needs.

Neither Microsoft nor blackberry offer a solution even remotely similar to carplay.

One last time, who is apple copying with carplay?

Hmm I see you decided not to post back as to why you felt the need to link to a story about Blackberry making electric cars noisy enough to hear coming down the road...

As for this comment, so tell me EXACTLY what CarPlay does differently to what we already have in the market place right now? Or are you going to spew on about iOS apps, which will be wrong because you won't be allowed to use them on the system.
You can spin it anyway you choose to, try and differentiate Apple as much as you like, fact is this is NOTHING new, it's the same as we already have done by Apple.
 
not the way that iOS is with maps.

Just wait until google launches their version, it will be almost identical I'm sure.

What? Are you sure about that? I figured maps would've been one of the first things Google would've added to a dashboard setup.

Though even if Apple is first with maps, going by your logic, they're just getting a head start on throwing in an application they quote-unquote "stole" from Google in the first place.
 
What? Are you sure about that? I figured maps would've been one of the first things Google would've added to a dashboard setup.

Though even if Apple is first with maps, going by your logic, they're just getting a head start on throwing in an application they quote-unquote "stole" from Google in the first place.

if you mean the way that they gave google execs early access to the iPhone and they just went on to completely copy the entire phone? then yes

http://youtu.be/t4OEsI0Sc_s?t=50m50s
 
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