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I buy my cars once in 15 years or so. I don't want to wait 8 more years for this! I recently upgraded my stereo to a Pioneer model that has USB and bluetooth and love it. However, I wouldn't mind paying for a thirdparty solution that has CarPlay. Any chance of that happening.
 
I stand by what I said, blackberry is a joke.
What have they done with qnx since they bought it, oh yes, zip.

Head in palm..... so you are implying QNX is rubbish then? what are you trying to say EXACTLY about Blackberry QNX, because that is all I have been mentioning and talking about.

Don't twist my comment to make it exclusively about Blackberry and not QNX.
 
It tells you your using iOS in your car. And just because it's shorter doesn't make it Easyer to remember. iOS in the car is very easy to remember. Carplay we lead to Lots of questions and is harder to remember.

you've go an amazing ability to state opinion as fact.
 
Apple Announces 'CarPlay' iOS Vehicle Integration Feature

Blackberry is a joke, but QNX is not a joke at all.



QNX powers essentially every single car system in the world. Most if not ALL the top luxury brands use it, and many mid-range companies use it too. The only ones that I know of that don't use QNX are Ford/Lincoln and Hyundai/Kia (both use Microsoft technology).


Couldn't agree more, however qnx is languishing under blackberry. It's been stagnating for a while now. Atleast apple will have use for it, if in fact it even is qnx.
 
Just like how it's a coincidence Apple has only decided to enter the market AFTER Blackberry and Microsoft have been in it and help create the market.

you're misunderstanding what this is. BB and MS released OSes that ran inside the car as infotainment systems. thats not what this is. CarPlay is basically a simple way for your phone to use an external touch display.
 
Head in palm..... so you are implying QNX is rubbish then? what are you trying to say EXACTLY about Blackberry QNX, because that is all I have been mentioning and talking about.

Don't twist my comment to make it exclusively about Blackberry and not QNX.


You twisted mine.
I welcome you to go back and reread my original post. ;)
 
no Porsche on the list yet :(

Altho I'd never trade Porsche's GPS maps, which are the best in the market today, from my experience. Spotify integration might be better with CarPlay, tho. The Bluetooth connection & control of Spotify in the Porsche is a bit unreliable.
 
so since in the States autopark featured cars have not been allowed, due to the fact that no one could be charged with responsibility for the dents on other cars,[/COLOR]

Lexus had an autopark car years ago. The Mercedes C-class has had it for a while too. (At least, auto parallel parking)
 
He's not on his high horse at all. It's a fact.

"Apple iPhones dominate the wealthy consumer smartphone segment"
NPD Group shows that for people making over $100,000 a year, 70% own an iPhone.

Conversely, for people making under $30,000 a year, 65% own Samsung.

You can see why a luxury brand would cater to a luxury, market dominating phone

lol, an iphone is not a "high end" device. High end devices are things like the real gold BlackBerry devices, HTC One. Diamond encrusted BlackBerry and Motorola devices, Porsche Design handsets. Those are High End. Any average tween has an iphone. It's not exclusive by any means.

Also, of that 70% of affluent iphone owners you mention, how many of them actually know anything about their phones other than checking email or making calls to even care about CarPlay? You Apple elitists are living in some fantasy world if you believe people won't buy a car because it doesn't offer CarPlay or somehow the vehicle market will shift drastically due to its introduction.
 
lol, an iphone is not a "high end" device. High end devices are things like the real gold BlackBerry devices, HTC One. Diamond encrusted BlackBerry and Motorola devices, Porsche Design handsets. Those are High End. Any average tween has an iphone. It's not exclusive by any means.

Also, of that 70% of affluent iphone owners you mention, how many of them actually know anything about their phones other than checking email or making calls to even care about CarPlay? You Apple elitists are living in some fantasy world if you believe people won't buy a car because it doesn't offer CarPlay or somehow the vehicle market will shift drastically due to its introduction.


Your living in a fantasy world if you honestly believe blackberry or Motorola devices are high end, even if they were gold plated or Porsche designed (not Porsche made, lol).

People said the same thing about iPod connected cars. It made a difference in peoples decision, soo much soo that to some auto manufacturer (almost all of them) carplay was a no brainer.
 
I hope there is a way that car manufacturers can find a way to make these systems OS non dependent. I love the idea that there is a part of the car's electronics system that can integrate with my choice of smart-phone, but I don't like the fact that only a particular brand/OS of smart-phone works with a specific system. A car is just too expensive of a device to be paired with a certain brand of phone.

Also hope that these systems can be upgraded over time. Cars today last 7-10 years at least. How well is this Volvo's system going to work with a 2020 iPhone 9 or whatever it is called then?

I'd rather see the cars sold with just a dumb touch screen and then have a replaceable "AppleTV"-like receiver puck that can be mounted in the glove box and changed by the owner over time to keep up with OS advances. Android and Windows phone companies could make their own pucks as well and the car driver can choose which system they want. This is very much the problem if Apple were to introduce an actual television. The device will outlive the technology if there's not a way to upgrade.

Also, did any of the manufacturer's release pricing data? If this is the replacement for $1200 factory GPS systems of the past, I will probably never pay to have something like this.
 
I may end up like others on here then though and truly believe Apple invents everything :rolleyes: I am not the only one that sees facts twisted to suit whenever Apple is being mentioned, yet everyone else no matter what copies.


So who have they copied?
Blackberry and qnx?
Lol
"BlackBerry’s next big thing: Fake engine revving sounds for quiet cars (no, seriously)"

http://bgr.com/2014/01/07/blackberry-car-engine-sounds-qnx/

It sure looks like your the one who is venting.
 
So who have they copied?
Blackberry and qnx?
Lol
"BlackBerry’s next big thing: Fake engine revving sounds for quiet cars (no, seriously)"

http://bgr.com/2014/01/07/blackberry-car-engine-sounds-qnx/

It sure looks like your the one who is venting.

Well, firstly that link you posted is about electric cars, and the fact they make NO noise, it is also a problem being looked into across the world by different companies and hardly anything bad, unless you wouldn't mind being run over by one because you didn't bother looking or hear it, or your children.

Funny how you're now trying to twist essential life saving road safety into something stupid? Because I'm not sure what it has to to do with the topic, I can only imagine you've posted that story in some sick attempt to backup your claims that Blackberry is rubbish? Lets laugh at how Blackberry is developing technology to save lives........

And Apple are only launching this CarPlay because the market has been created already by Microsoft and Blackberry et al, they are only entering it for money and profit, if the market didn't exist neither would the CarPlay system. they are following everyone else and copying because they will offer what we already have.
 
One issue exists on the car, not on iOS

The issue that I've always had trouble with is that the voice recognition system makes mistakes when the car is in motion at high speed.

There's inevitable road/friction/engine noise that interferes with the voice recognition system. Both my iPhone and the Benz recognize my voice at almost perfect success rates... but when I go up to the freeway speed, it's almost impossible for Siri or the car to understand me.

The main issue is the noise interference. It would have to wait out until auto manufacturers can really create a minimal noise vehicle for this to work at high success rate.

Given that my car is one of the most expensive ones in the "non-exotic" class.. (Mercedes SL550) make no mistakes that most other non-exotic cars will have similar issues. I see Lexus as one of the most quiet cars... but I've driven my wife's Lexus LS460 and the voice recognition success is much higher, but still having troubles.

Hopefully CarPlay has built-in some intelligence to distinguish/exclude normal engine/road background noise and operate at a much better way than how I see Siri does right now.
 
An alternative

I really like the sound of this feature, but until it becomes more widely available I'll continue using "Harken For iPhone" in the car. It's much easier to use than Apple's music player (bigger text, large buttons/touch areas). There's also "Harken" on the iPad but I need a new cradle for my iPad so I can't use it at the moment.
 
Apple Announces 'CarPlay' iOS Vehicle Integration Feature

Well, firstly that link you posted is about electric cars, and the fact they make NO noise, it is also a problem being looked into across the world by different companies and hardly anything bad, unless you wouldn't mind being run over by one because you didn't bother looking or hear it, or your children.

Funny how you're now trying to twist essential life saving road safety into something stupid? Because I'm not sure what it has to to do with the topic, I can only imagine you've posted that story in some sick attempt to backup your claims that Blackberry is rubbish? Lets laugh at how Blackberry is developing technology to save lives........

And Apple are only launching this CarPlay because the market has been created already by Microsoft and Blackberry et al, they are only entering it for money and profit, if the market didn't exist neither would the CarPlay system. they are following everyone else and copying because they will offer what we already have.


Talk about twisting words to suit your needs.

Neither Microsoft nor blackberry offer a solution even remotely similar to carplay.

One last time, who is apple copying with carplay?
 
Your living in a fantasy world if you honestly believe blackberry or Motorola devices are high end, even if they were gold plated or Porsche designed (not Porsche made, lol).

People said the same thing about iPod connected cars. It made a difference in peoples decision, soo much soo that to some auto manufacturer (almost all of them) carplay was a no brainer.

I never stated that I believed BlackBerry or Motorola as a whole is high end, I stated what constitutes as a high-end device. People spending thousands on a smartphone, not one that every 12 year old girl has.

Any OEM headunit that had an AUX input was capable of being ipod connected with a small harness, it didn't take much to implement. It didn't create a shift in the automotive sector then, just added a new option to tack on to your vehicle order. It was such a cheap option that most OEM's started including it as standard equipment. But you cannot compare a small harness to an entire Infotainment system. They are very different.

Talk about twisting words to suit your needs, I will ask you again:

Neither Microsoft nor blackberry offer a solution even remotely similar to carplay.

One last time, who is apple copying with carplay?

QNX demo'd their new infotainment system last year at the auto shows. They partnered with Porsche. Look it up.
 
I never stated that I believed BlackBerry or Motorola as a whole is high end, I stated what constitutes as a high-end device. People spending thousands on a smartphone, not one that every 12 year old girl has.

Any OEM headunit that had an AUX input was capable of being ipod connected with a small harness, it didn't take much to implement. It didn't create a shift in the automotive sector then, just added a new option to tack on to your vehicle order. It was such a cheap option that most OEM's started including it as standard equipment. But you cannot compare a small harness to an entire Infotainment system. They are very different.



QNX demo'd their new infotainment system last year at the auto shows. They partnered with Porsche. Look it up.


Last year? try 2012, I was there, I played with it first hand.

It utilized playbooks and NFC, and it doesn't compare to carplay not in practice nor execution.
2 years later and nothing, the "concept" isn't even offered by Porsche.

Ps: your factually incorrect. iPod integration was not just a line in connector or as you put it a harness. It was much more complicated than that.

https://www.apple.com/ipod/car-integration/#mercedes

But what do you know.

Ps: just got back from mwc 14, I even played with qnx's new car at Qualcomm's booth. Wasn't impressed and there was no immediate plans for a launch (it wasn't as polished as carplay, which is commercially launching this week at the Geneva autoshow).
 
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