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> The slide into a "police state" is just getting all so convenient with all this "bait" to tempt people to give up every aspect of their personal lives.

While you're right that it's conceivable the government would try to gain access to information in the cloud based on past behaviours, the motivation you ascribe to private companies is what makes your claim ridiculous. The suggestion that technology companies are only offering cloud services to bait their customers to make it easier for the government to spy on them, rather than because it's a useful service that people demand, is what makes you paranoid. Just because the government might spy on email, phones or cloud data, it doesn't follow that phones, email and the cloud must have been invented or propagated simply so the government could spy! That's an absurd motivation to ascribe to companies like Microsoft, Apple and Google, who lets face it, just want to make money by providing services. Some companies may be indifferent to spying, that does mean they are specifically motivated to encourage it.
 
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You must have a very old MacBook. I have the Late 2008 (the first aluminum model) and wake from sleep is instant with Lion.

I'm not talking about wake from sleep. I'm talking about all the automatic cycles my system goes through to get up and running. Yes, the screen comes on immediately, and I can begin working, but lots of resources are immediately dedicated to starting a sync, finding and beginning a TimeMachine backup, spinning through Dropbox, checking for new mail, etc.
So I'm excited to have those processes running in the background as the computer sleeps, thereby cutting down on the time needed when it wakes.
 
..catching up with the SGI people

...take a look here boyz and grilz,

http://www.sgi.com/products/hpc_cloud/cyclone/index.html

We are now where we should have been a while back "in the cloud".

After Sun got eaten by that mean ol' Ellison ORACLE...we sort of forgot to
remember how we compared ourselves in the HPC world. iPhones and iPods
aside..no one had 'big iron size' macs..except those who were building mini-
server farms..or VTI type computing palaces.

OpenCL may change all that.

IF each new "desktop mac + laptop mac" comes with an opencl NVIDIA card
and the teraflops to match...soon the "servers in the cloud"..with their
grids open...can offer us "time-sharing tidbits"..over the high-speed net.

Not much now..but in a few years..with 25-50-100MB/s access speeds we will
have what only NASA and MIT now take for granted...
..SUPERCOMPUTING access.. and sometimes FOR FREE.

You sure about FREE wms121?

Those type 'data-arrangements' are usually very expensive.

Usually is still the case..but with the "extra-FLOPS" from the gamer cards..
and the ubiquitious possibilities for grid computing present in the cloud..your
"iCloud enabled MacOSX tiger-leopard-mountainlion--or full bred LION 256-bit
processing system (Windows 8 is going 256-bit..when Win9 is announced)..
can allow "grid timesharing"...and accumulated "grid hours"..or 'free computing
time'.

But what if I don't have anything that needs a supercomputer?

You may have stuff that does..and not know it.

Those weather maps, stock forecasts, engineering parts specs,
automobile stress simulations...yada yada yada...any number
of items..could be "super enhanced"..even on an iphone.

The Cloud begets the Grid..begets the AI buddy system...and the terminators
SKYNET (real name in the UK by the way)...will walk right up to you and give
you a toothy silver apple smile.

Should be about the time that IBM builds its first POWER12 full blown optical
Blue Gene with Deep Blue DNA.

WW
 
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Looking forward to the Javascript improvements coming to Safari.

Hopefully, Apple will continue to make Safari a viable competitor to Chrome and Firefox.
 
iCloud Tabs

The problem with iCloud Tabs is that no one uses Safari... I already have clouded tabs/bookmarks/history/etc in Chrome.

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I paid $30 for OS X Lion, which was a disappointment to say the least, now they want $20 for more nothingness? I won't be a sucker twice.
 
OpenCL may change all that.

IF each new "desktop mac + laptop mac" comes with an opencl NVIDIA card
and the teraflops to match...soon the "servers in the cloud"..with their
grids open...can offer us "time-sharing tidbits"..over the high-speed net.

What kind of DP (Double Precision - 64-bits) floating point is available on these Nvidia cards through OpenCL? I thought I remember reading that at one point Nvidia was not planning to make full DP performance available by default -- but, I'm not sure if/how that applies to these new cards.
 
Agreed. Not a fan of how quickly they phase out old computers.
Same with iOS and Siri only available on the NEW Ipad. Ipad2 is basically the same thing!

Siri can't be available on the iPad 2 because it doesn't have an A5 chip in it. Siri only works with A5 devices. Ex. iPhone 4S with its A5 chip and the new iPad with its A5X chip. The iPad 2 has an A4 chip.
 
Nein

iPad 2 has an A5
The New iPad has an A5x

http://www.apple.com/ipad/ipad-2/specs.html

The lack of Siri coming to the iPad 2 is an artificial limitation.

The new iOS devices has "noise reduction tech", which previous gens do not have. http://www.tuaw.com/2012/02/06/siri-may-be-iphone-4s-only-because-of-noise-reduction-tech/

Apple is good at limiting usage of features that will bring about lack lustre performance. Also 'encourages' you to upgrade. At least they are still updating the legacy devices, else it will be truly planned obsolescence.
 
I'm running here the last preview and a lot of bugs and difficulties so far. It looks like, though my hardware configuration ( iMac 27, i5, 2,8 Ghz, 8GB memory ran ), that Mountain Lion is not a multi task system. If it will be released in July I think it will be another "failure" just like Lion.:mad:

It's become even more obvious that the last version of the great OSX system was snow leopard.
Everything since has been driven by a stupid attempt to shoehorn ios and osx into one system, with the loss going to people who needed real operating systems to use their computers.
OSX is dead.
And from the looks of it, Windows 7 was the last serious OS from Microsoft.
Windows 8 looks like the same bastardized mess that mountain lion promises to be.
I wonder what people who need more than what tablet and phone users want are going to move to?
 
It's become even more obvious that the last version of the great OSX system was snow leopard.
Everything since has been driven by a stupid attempt to shoehorn ios and osx into one system, with the loss going to people who needed real operating systems to use their computers.
OSX is dead.

I agree with you that it is silly to try make OSX have the same look and feel as IOS.

That said, you seem to imply that Apple has damaged OSX kernel capabilities somehow with ML. Could you be more explicit?

And from the looks of it, Windows 7 was the last serious OS from Microsoft.
Windows 8 looks like the same bastardized mess that mountain lion promises to be.
I wonder what people who need more than what tablet and phone users want are going to move to?

Yes, Microsoft is making the same mistake; even more so apparently.

An essential and obvious difference between an iPad and a MacBook Pro is the keyboard. The keyboard, as a feature, is an essential part of what most people want to do with their desktop or portable computer, and it is actually stupid to minimize that.
 
Don't know if anybody mentioned this yet:

App store still shows Lion for $ 29.99 with no mention that an upgrade to Mountain would be free if you buy Lion now.

If Apple wants to keep selling Lion from now until Mountain is available (July) they should reduce Lion to $ 19.99 same non restrictions, plus a free upgrade, otherwise why wouldn't people just wait things out?

Is that true? I was under the impression you got as free upgrade if you bought a Mac now, but I didn't think they were offering free upgrades for purchasers of Lion.
 
Cherish this moment, Brits.

OS X Mountain Lion will be $19.99, which is actually £15.46 factoring in tax at today's exchange rate; the Apple website says it'll be £13.99.

:D

Bound to be a typo. Wonder what the euro equivalent will be? Usually we get charged the same figure as the dollar price.
 
I DO NOT want Twitter, Facebook, or my personal data on someone else's hard drive (i.e. "the cloud") where TBD can access it.

If you use Twitter or Facebook you can't really be serious complaining about a lack of privacy, right? Where do you think that data is stored? And who do you possibly think DOESN'T have access to it?

Just sayin'
 
Am I the only one frustrated by the fact that we're told that it will be released in July but ... not sure WHEN in July it will be released? :p
 
Am I the only one frustrated by the fact that we're told that it will be released in July but ... not sure WHEN in July it will be released? :p

IIRC, Apple didn't reveal Lion's July release date last year until the day before :eek: (I believe CFO Peter Oppenheimer was the one who told the media).

I think MacRumors had a story a few weeks back about Apple employees having vacation days blacked out July 23 - July 29th-ish, so possible the 23rd-25th would be most likely?

Edit: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/2...-at-late-july-release-for-os-x-mountain-lion/

a third-party company has the black-out, and it's for 7/22-7/29
 
I'm really excited for the new tab management on Safari - being able to swipe between tabs sounds absolutely fantastic. I normally have many tabs open, and the current key combo to move between tabs is a PITA (even changing it to something simpler is still annoying - a gesture is much better).

i can get used to that. no more requiring two hands for "command, shift, ]"
 
Yeah because my Early 2011 13' MacBook Pro doesn't have the specs to run that Power Nap thing. Thank you so much Apple!!!

It requires a Mac with a Solid State Drive. My Mid-2012 MacBook Pro (that's one week old) won't run Power Nap. :)

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Anyone else notice that the voice dictation tweet demo was faked? Craig said "show off mountain lion" but the text that appeared was "show mountain lion" (59:29 in video).

I know what you mean - I thought it was because he tripped over his words slightly, though.
 
It's become even more obvious that the last version of the great OSX system was snow leopard.
Everything since has been driven by a stupid attempt to shoehorn ios and osx into one system, with the loss going to people who needed real operating systems to use their computers.
OSX is dead.
And from the looks of it, Windows 7 was the last serious OS from Microsoft.
Windows 8 looks like the same bastardized mess that mountain lion promises to be.
I wonder what people who need more than what tablet and phone users want are going to move to?

Hardly. Look at Windows 8. Is Apple doing that with OS X? Are all the apps full screen? Has launchpad replaced the desktop? Can you ONLY install apps via the Mac App Store?

Did you see the WWDC keynote? "With Mountain Lion our mission remains the same. To deliver the world's most advance operating system for notebook and desktop computers. With an interface optimised for multi-touch trackpads, and mice."

The features they've introduced mean OS X works better with iCloud, and if you're used to an iOS device, you'll feel more at home on a Mac.

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Don't know if anybody mentioned this yet:

App store still shows Lion for $ 29.99 with no mention that an upgrade to Mountain would be free if you buy Lion now.

If Apple wants to keep selling Lion from now until Mountain is available (July) they should reduce Lion to $ 19.99 same non restrictions, plus a free upgrade, otherwise why wouldn't people just wait things out?

You can upgrade to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard. It's only free if you've bought a Mac recently.
 
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