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Apple Announces Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5, and Compressor 4 Available Today

This week's episode of the podcast MACBREAK WEEKLY featured Alex Lindsay talking about FCPX and his points and the points of the rest of the members of the podcast (s: Leo Laporte, Andy Ihnatko and Jason Snell) really have made the most sense to me as far as why FCPX is so different from FCP.

I highly recommend people listening to this episode. You can find it here:

http://twit.tv/mbw252

Bottom line is that FCPX really isn't (at least at this .0 iteration) aimed or even meant for hard core professional users.

Alex says something about it being aimed at what 90% of the people need 90% of the time. (Although Alex had only played with it a few hours when this was recorded) Listen to it, he and the rest of the cast make great points and insights.

Still, it sounds like for a vast majority of the user base it's going to be great but once again, I'm glad that I can still have FCP Studio installed along side it for some things but who knows how I'll feel 5 months from now.

Haven't bought FCPX yet but I'm ordering Ripple Training's FCPX tutorial since it's 39 bucks and from the samples it looks like a good 'dive in' group of lessons.

PLUS I need to replace the NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT on my one machine before I buy it. So far the cheapest compatible graphics card looks like the $250 dollar range. Doubling the price of buy into FCPX.
 
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Bottom line is that FCPX really isn't (at least at this .0 iteration) aimed or even meant for hard core professional users.

Alex says something about it being aimed at what 90% of the people need 90% of the time. (Although Alex had only played with it a few hours when this was recorded) Listen to it, he and the rest of the cast make great points and insights.
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They had a lot of good things to say about it too. At the end when asked who is this targeted for and said anybody who doesn't do high end video editing like film should take a look at it.

People tend to dismiss things they don't want to hear.
 
linuxcooldude said:
After reading some reviews in the app store and other places, there are professionals who do like it, even though its still missing features. They are going to be adding more in future updates.
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That's not the point! Of course most pros LIKE the new revolutionary features!
Many of them just won't be able to use them for probably another two or three years, because this current 1.0 version is missing several fundamental basics to work with other components/people/systems in a broadcasting, film or professional video production workflow.

FCpX is FANTASTIC for your skater videos, wedding, music, corporate and event videos, porn and everything else a lone wolf guerilla filmmaker can handle. At least unless you need multicam (like I do mostly, which is a dealbreaker for me).
As long as you distribute your stuff only via internet, dvd or blu-rays you'll be fine.

But it is VERY UNLIKELY anybody will be able to edit a TV show, a Hollywood blockbuster or certain commercials with this thing.
Any high production value workflow that needs big teams of post specialists (sound editors, foley artist, colorists, etc.) cannot implement FCpX properly.
At least not in its current version. And probably not for another two or three years.

There is nothing wrong with the software!
But there is something terribly wrong with Apple's marketing strategy and by using the moniker "Pro" in the name they made a huge, huge mistake!!!

They should have simply called it Final Cut X 1.0. Period.

If Apple doesn't come out and addresses this disaster properly within the next few days, they'll gonna lose a lot of disgruntled broadcasters, film and video production studios to Avid or Premiere!

But if they won't come out, I would interpret this as a signal that FXpX was actually a cop-out strategy to get rid of the annoyingly sophisticated high-end segment of the pro market (which probably is a burden for Apple...) and move towards the massively growing and more profitable lower end pro/prosumer market, without having to say it out loud.
Wink-wink strategy...
 
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iBug2 said:
I'm not an editor, and even I knew that it was missing features. How can "you" as an editor not know what I do? There were articles posted on this website. Larry Jordan did a 2 hour interview which you could watch for free explaining all the missing stuff and how it won't be ready. All this happened since the April preview.
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Do you really think hard working professionals with a full schedule take the effort and time to frequent Apple fan sites to search after hints of the next FCP update???
After a hard day in the field or a 9-hour edition session behind your Mac, probably the last thing on your mind is more computer or video stuff...

I assume most Pros have most likely got their FCpX info via official Apple marketing and PR channels.

Only enthusiasts and part time-pros with too much time at their hands (like me ;)) know about these things.
 
It is the point,

Many of them just won't be able to use them for probably another two or three years, because this current 1.0 version is missing several fundamental basics to work with other components/people/systems
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Because professionals won't jump directly into a new piece of rewritten software without fully testing it, wait for updates ect. Even if it had all the features installed.

But there is something terribly wrong with Apple's marketing strategy and by using the moniker "Pro" in the name they made a huge, huge mistake!!!

They should have simply called it Final Cut X 1.0. Period.

If Apple doesn't come out and addresses this disaster properly within the next few days, they'll gonna lose a lot of disgruntled broadcasters, film and video production studios to Avid or Premiere!
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Why all the semantics over the name when they are going to release updates over the next few months to address these problems?

A pro will wait till these updates are released, reevaluate the software, and upgrade when the time is right. They will continue to use their existing copy of final cut pro until all the bugs are worked out of the new version.

Same thing with new operating systems. You often see service packs released shortly after a new OS comes on the market.

But if they won't come out, I would interpret this as a signal that FXpX was actually a cop-out strategy to get rid of the annoyingly sophisticated high-end segment of the pro market (which probably is a burden for Apple...) and move towards the massively growing and more profitable lower end pro/prosumer market, without having to say it out loud.
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They could easily make massively more profit off of the lower consumer end if they really wanted too. Just by either making lower priced mid-tower computers or making Mac OSX installable on any PC computer so everybody could make their own hackintoshes. Something they they are never willing to do.
 
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linuxcooldude said:
Why all the semantics over the name when they are going to release updates over the next few months to address these problems? A pro will wait till these updates are released, reevaluate the software, and upgrade when the time is right.
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Next few months? Nice try. Historically, Apple's been working on 18/24 month release cycles. Even if the App store shrinks that in half to say, 9 months, you're looking at a release in March or April. And it's unknown whether such a release down the road will even address any of the missing features. That's really what's frustrating about this. All that's been said is a couple well-known editors had face time with Apple who relayed a message about being able to update faster because of the app store. There was no timetable.

Pros have been waiting at least 2 years for a souped up iMovie, more like 4 if you consider Final Cut Pro 7 was really just a minor upgrade. We're sick of waiting around when Premiere and Avid have solutions now.
 
Pros have been waiting at least 2 years for a souped up iMovie, more like 4 if you consider Final Cut Pro 7 was really just a minor upgrade. We're sick of waiting around when Premiere and Avid have solutions now.
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Been hearing Premiere and/or Avid being only minor upgrades and certainly not complete makeovers like Final Cut Pro has been.

I am talking UPDATES not upgrades, so don't know if your release cycle applies. As far as when the updates will actually be released remains to be seen.
 
So sick of hearing people saying that we need to accept change and learn the new UI etc! :mad: And that it's better than iMovie. ***** it's meant to be for Pro or has been. Need features like i/o and plug-ins! And multiple A/V tracks.
 
Where is a default cache folder?
I've downloaded video to "Downloads" folder and then imported it to FCPX, played a lil and then I decided to delete this video from "Downloads" but when I run FCPX - the footage still available.
Where is a footage? How can I see footage folder?
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sambuev said:
Where is a default cache folder?
I've downloaded video to "Downloads" folder and then imported it to FCPX, played a lil and then I decided to delete this video from "Downloads" but when I run FCPX - the footage still available.
Where is a footage? How can I see footage folder?
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Pogue jumped back into things with a post refering to some of the complaints about FCPX and having some engineers from Apple reply to them.

There's some good info in here:

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-editors-weigh-in-on-final-cut-pro-x/

The issue I have with some of the response are the "oh, we'll be adding that in an update later... " sort of responses.

What? Is Apple now micro$oft? Release half baked products and plan on updates to fix all the problems and missing features?

The Tape thing bothers me --- yes, a lot of us are moving to all digital and YES, the thrill of having instant access to footage files instead of importing is beautiful but it's not realistic. How many non-pro users still have digicams? I still use my Canon XL1S all the time as a secondary/backup camera.

I still haven't bought FCPX yet although I think I'll pick up Motion 5 once I find out how it will play with FCP 7 and Final Cut Studio 3. $50 for the new motion seems like a solid price either way as long as it works with previous Motion materials and projects.
 
Holy crap, even movie news sites are jumping in on this.

SlashFilm has a post on it but they do give some good links to opinions on the fcpx situation.

The post is called "Final Cut Pro X: Did Apple Just Walk Away From the Professional Video Editing Market?"

http://www.slashfilm.com/final-cut-pro-apple-walk-professional-video-editing-market/

The article seems to be saying that Apple is discontinuing FCP Studio and not supporting it.
 
K.B. said:
What? Is Apple now micro$oft? Release half baked products and plan on updates to fix all the problems and missing features?
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No, Apple's doing what they did when they released OS X: release a new and semi-incomplete product that functions alongside its predecessor and continue to update and refine the new product. Once it's mature enough, it'll overwrite its predecessor. It lets customers get familiar with UI and paradigm changes as Apple gets the rest of the program up to speed.
 
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Apple has officially announced announced that Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5 and Compressor 4 available today:.Final Cut Pro X is available today for $299.99 from the Mac App Store. Motion 5 and Compressor 4 are available today for $49.99 each from the Mac App Store.

Article Link: Apple Announces Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5, and Compressor 4 Available Today
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This is great news!

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