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Sorry, not interested in Android. If I wanted an Android, I would have bought one and not be in this thread right now.

Android, pffffffft. Get out.
Your loss. It is the superior mobile OS at this point in time.

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Problem is it's not "connected" to all my data/iCloud for syncing. This is super important to me and exactly what Apple's goal is. I'm all up in the ecosystem. But lack of the Mini update means I'm not buying a new iPad this year at all. I'm super bummed. The original Mini will have to do. I'd rather wait until the next cylce to see if this is a segment they are going to kill off. If it is, I'll weigh my options then.
Fair enough. Most of the the stuff CAN be synced though. All the pictures I currently take with my Nexus 5 show up in my iPhoto thanks to Dropbox. My calendar is synced between iCloud and my phone as well. About the only thing you CAN'T do is iMessage/Facetime.
 
Fair enough. Most of the the stuff CAN be synced though. All the pictures I currently take with my Nexus 5 show up in my iPhoto thanks to Dropbox. My calendar is synced between iCloud and my phone as well. About the only thing you CAN'T do is iMessage/Facetime.

iMessage & Facetime actually aren't that important to me. But syncing of reminders, Notes, contacts, Photos (without having to do anything), etc + all the apps I've already purchased to work with iOS. I'm sure it's a fine device but I'm sticking to iOS.
 
Your loss. It is the superior mobile OS at this point in time.

it's all about preference. just because you like it more doesn't mean others will.

i'm much happier with iOS on my phone than with android on my nexus 7.


(but clearly apple doesnt want me to buy an ipad mini...)
 
Looks like I'll be sticking to my air. Most probably the mini is not their priority and customer satisfaction is 100% with it they said so they pushed its development back as a result. The only good thing is the mini 2 is now discounted.
 
I know that this must be frustrating if you were holding out for an iPad Mini, but it shouldn’t rob you of your common sense if you know that this price is closer to a rip-off than a fair deal. I think the iPad Mini 2 is a much better deal. Touch ID is only really useful on a device that you unlock hundreds of times a day and Apple Pay probably won’t really take off for at least six months or longer. Touch ID is probably less useful for the iPad.

It's borderline - and Apple are very very good at treading the borderline of what they can get away with. I can't fault their shameless business sense.

I'm fairly security-conscious and use Lastpass to log onto things, which can be a pain in the neck, so TouchID is a fairly big deal for me. Whether it (combined with an extra 32GB) is £120 worth of big deal is the question I'm pondering at the moment.
 
See the positives

Another way of looking at this is that the previous ipad mini was just reduced by $100/£80! Now looking quite a bargain.

Personally I don't think this will be around long (i.e. the only other option will be the ipad mini 1, as this offers substantially less), so get it now whilst it's available!;)
 
I was going to chop my iPad 3 in for a new mini but definitely won't bother. I never use the 3 anymore and wanted the mini for books really. Ah well.
 
The Mini is still being treated like the red heading stepchild. Apple purposely gimps these devices so you have reason to get the more expensive, larger versions.
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It used to be the Nexus line was priced inexpensively, especially 4 & 5. Now the Nexus 9 with a plastic shell costs as much as iPad mini 3?
 
I am usually excited about Apple releases but I have to agree, this is disappointing when it comes to the iPad mini 2 and mini 3. I didn't even watch the Keynote yet and completely forgot there was an event yesterday concerning the release of the new iPads.

I bought the iPad rMini 2 last year when it was released. I guess I will be using that for another year or two. The only decent part about this is that they now have the 64 GB as the midtier model. Granted just like the iPhone 6/6+ they should have done away with the 16GB model and made the 32GB the base model.

Since I am not interested in getting an iPad Air 2 or Air, I am not really interested in anything it has, and after I reviewed the comparison chart, yeah, not very impressed with the updates from the Air to the Air 2 either.
 
Am also bummed by this lackluster launch. A8 and TouchID with maybe updated WiFi and that would've been enough. A screen with better color gamut would've been good too. The physical redesign, thinness, loss of the mute/orientation switch definitely wouldn't have been necessary at all. As it stands, JUST TouchID and an ugly gold color option added into the mix isn't enough. A bummer really as I do feel the A5 in my first generation iPad mini is due for an upgrade. With any luck 2013 doesn't become the only year in Apple history where Apple updates the iPad mini with CURRENT hardware.

I never said people can't vent. Nor can I stop it. I'm just pointing out how sad it is that people are such babies.

Look, when you wait for something in anticipation and are told that it won't be coming after all, that's very naturally disappointing. People are only cruising through this thread and expressing their disappointment. Some people are more animated about it than others. Welcome to the human race; this is what we do. No need to be disrespectful.

So many whiners. This is what they are offering. Take it or leave it, if they would have updated it more, people would complain. Not update it enough, people will complain.

I'm pretty sure that if they had updated it more, the volume of complaints here would be substantially less. As it stands, 99% of the comments in this thread are complaint. If they had put out an A8 or A8X version of an iPad mini that was, to the iPad Air 2 what the "iPad mini 2" or "iPad mini with Retina Display" was to the original "iPad Air" or "Fifth Generation iPad", I'm sure that volume of complaint would've lessened to about <15%. Easily. You gotta understand the nature of the complaints before you generalize about their existence in the first place.

Seriously, this is the most inconsequential update since iPad 3 to iPad 4. People scoffed at that update, but iPad 4 still had more changes than Mini 2 to 3.

Actually, I'd beg to differ on that one. Third Generation iPad to Fourth Generation iPad brought you (a) A6 (in the form of A6X) which is huge over A5, (b) Lightning, which ushers in the future of accessories, and (c) under-the-hood wireless capabilities and features that were not immediately apparent, such as support for AirDrop (not apparent until iOS 7) and Continuity (not apparent until iOS 8). More importantly, like the iPad 2, iPad Air, and iPad Air 2, and "iPad mini 2" or "iPad mini with Retina Display" (and UNLIKE the third generation iPad, first generation mini and now, the third generation mini), the fourth generation iPad used current Apple A-series chips out of the gate, giving it the benefit of a longer OS support life-cycle, which is huge. The third generation iPad still used the A5 architecture in A5X, which, aside from having a retina display and double the RAM, yields similar performance to the iPad 2.

The great news for us Mini 1 owners is that the Mini 2 dropped in price. I'm not interested in paying an extra $100 for Touch ID, and I'm not into the gold color.

Seriously, this is the least exciting update I've seen yet for any Apple device. I don't need an Air, I need a Mini that's future-proof for 2-3 years. I'm already having enough issues with the original on 7.1.2...I don't dare take it up to 8. Yeesh.

It's not stellar news for iPad mini 1 users, because we're still buying hardware that's one year old out of the gate. Really, if anything, it makes me feel stupid for (a) buying my original iPad mini and (b) not buying the "iPad mini with Retina Display" or "iPad mini 2". (Man what a marketing mess those names are.)

Well... it's pretty obvious Apple is no longer interested in the smaller tablet market now, they don't want to damage their iPhone 6 Plus sales I guess? The new Nexus 9 comfortably beats this iPad IMO but I would say that's what Apple wants? Because it wants to sell the new 6 Plus more.

That brings up a fantastic point. The Nexus 7 was the iPad mini's chief competitor next to the Kindle Fire (which has never held a candle, in terms of usability and functionality, to the iPad mini), and even Google scrapped it in favor of the Nexus 9, a tablet much closer to the size of the iPad Air. Similarly, it seems as though, even Samsung's Galaxy Tab efforts are more focused on the 8.9" and larger tablets than the 8.4" and smaller tablets.

All of this is making me wonder if the 7.0" to 8.4" tablet market that was so vibrant in 2012 and 2013 is simply going to be cannibalized by Phablets and just shrink to the point of disintegration. The iPad mini may only have a limited run while the "mini-tablet" also has a similarly limited run.

Personally, I see unique purposes for each device - full-sized (8.9" and larger) tablet, mini (8.4" and smaller) tablet, Phablet (5.3" to 6.5"), and smartphone/media player (5.1" and smaller) - though I think the amount of people that would have a device from each category would be very very limited, and it is the job of tech companies to optimize their line-up for the greatest common denominator.

The mini was short-changed so they can steer demand toward the better upgraded and more expensive machine (Air2). Once those sales begin to dwindle, they will introduce an upgraded mini during mid-cycle, Apr/May.

I was wanting a Mini retina with an improved camera. :apple:

Somehow, I'm doubting that Apple will do anything that drastic that soon. I've been wrong plenty of times though. But I'd say that if complaint over the lackluster nature of this update is broadcasted loudly enough to them, they will do something about it. Some other poster in this thread suggested leaving Apple feedback. Not a bad idea, especially if we don't want the iPad mini to start meeting the current fate of the iPod touch.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html
 
it's all about preference. just because you like it more doesn't mean others will.

i'm much happier with iOS on my phone than with android on my nexus 7.


(but clearly apple doesnt want me to buy an ipad mini...)
Oh, it absolutely is about preference. I'm with you trumpeting that fact. Some things work better for one person vs another. And you can't get past the fact iOS works seamlessly with OSX...however, that doesn't mean it is the 'best'.

You can't deny that Android is the superior mobile OS at the moment either. Lollipop furthers the gap between the two even more. I'm not talking Samnsung-ified Android that the majority of people seem to think Android is; I'm talking clean, unabused Android straight from Google.

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It used to be the Nexus line was priced inexpensively, especially 4 & 5. Now the Nexus 9 with a plastic shell costs as much as iPad mini 3?
What does the plastic shell have to do with it? You're paying the higher price for better specs.

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I beg to differ. Fragmented piece of crap.
Still this old argument? lol. Especially as iOS becomes more 'fragmented' as well with each new release.
 
I beg to differ. Fragmented piece of crap.

Your argument is so 2010. Since Google has allowed anybody with an android phone to download updates of all components of a new version of android except for the main update file there's really no more fragmented issues.
 
Nothing different from what they did with ip5c. they basically sold last years phone at today's price. same with iPad mini 3. They know fanbois will buy anything. What an insult.
 
They'll release the mini 4 in March and piss off a whole wack of people - again.

I agree with you that they might have the stones to release the iPad Mini 4 around March-April, just half a year from now.

But you are wrong on the second point. No one will be pissed off because they "already bought the iPad Mini 3". Prediction is…. hardly anyone will buy the iPad Mini 3. Methinks it will be the worst-selling iPad of any kind. Ever.

Personally? My money was ready for the iPad Mini 3. But now it's waiting for next year's Mini.
 
Good that they did not release a 12 inch iPad. Seems that the split screen multitasking won't show up before iOS9, and by then they can most likely further decrease the weight and thickness of the iPad so a 12 inch device would actually be an amazing device to hold and use.

Would love to be able to us a 12-13 inch tablet that looks like this

http://www.imore.com/sites/imore.co...ponsibility_NOT_leaked_ipad.jpg?itok=GqotCgfR

Yes, I know its not a tablet but still :)
 
Your argument is so 2010. Since Google has allowed anybody with an android phone to download updates of all components of a new version of android except for the main update file there's really no more fragmented issues.

Even this explanation is fragmented! :)
 
Nothing different from what they did with ip5c. they basically sold last years phone at today's price. same with iPad mini 3. They know fanbois will buy anything. What an insult.

The iPhone 5c replaced the iPhone 5 at the same price-point that the iPhone 5 would've held if it had remained in that line-up and in the same place in the line-up that it would've held had they not rebranded it.

Here, they're not rebranding the second generation iPad mini; they're adding in ONE new feature and calling it the third generation iPad mini.

Similarly, unlike the iPhone 5c, the predecessor product doesn't change. The only similarity to the iPhone 5c launch is that the 64GB and 128GB models drop in price by $100 a piece.

Personally? My money was ready for the iPad Mini 3. But now it's waiting for next year's Mini.

Hardcore with you on this one. Though, if they opt to nix the iPad mini altogether (as Google has done with its former chief competitor, the late Nexus 7), which is now somewhat of a possibility given the potential for Phablets to cannibalize the 7.0" to 8.4" Tablet market that was otherwise vibrant just 1.5-2 years ago, then there may not be an iPad mini to get. I may get a version of this generation JUST IN CASE that scenario looks likely.

Given that there were no technical limitations preventing Apple from dropping in at least the iPhone 6's A8 CPU into the current enclosure of the iPad mini, the obvious question becomes "why didn't they?". I don't buy "greed"; there's got to be a more thought out practical reason for it marketing-wise.
 
I think at first, Apple wanted the Mini to be a "5C"-like iPad for its line up. It was this way in 2012.

In 2012, they debuted the 4th generation iPad with its new A6 chip and Retina display. The Mini, announced alongside it, featured the A5 and an old display.

In 2013, Apple succumbed to the pressure of including a Retina display, and they needed the A7's efficiency to get Retina while maintaining battery life. With the ONLY difference between the full size Air and the Retina mini being the screen size, I think it is safe to assume Apple was taking a hit on margins on selling a $399 new iPad that had all the new features of its $499 sibling.

So in 2014, we return to the 2012 situation. A new large iPad that gets all the new technology like the A8, anti-reflective screen, camera, etc. The mini becomes the 5c of the line up. Last year's specs in a smaller form factor.

If this is how Apple wants it, then expect to need to buy the large iPad if you want the newest guts.
 
This is the price we pay for the Apple ecosystem - no competing device makers. When Apple decides to leave a form factor behind, we are left with no alternative. Or in the case of the Mac Mini, they purposely abandoned an entire (important) category: mid-spec, upgradeable desktop.
 
Given that there were no technical limitations preventing Apple from dropping in at least the iPhone 6's A8 CPU into the current enclosure of the iPad mini, the obvious question becomes "why didn't they?". I don't buy "greed"; there's got to be a more thought out practical reason for it marketing-wise.

Stretched resources, with dev on the iPad Pro, :apple:watch, Retina iMac and iPad Air 2, they needed to delay. Even the iPad Pro was pushed back and that's a priority for them right now. I think the iPad Mini will catch up to the iPad Air 2 sometime Feb/Mar of 2015.
 
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