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Apple Announces iPod Touch Software Update

Webclips and icon moving aren't part of the free 1.1.3 update? Those are updates to apps already on the touch. I don't buy the SOX argument to begin with, but if we accept it as a given that it is true, how does anyone explain charging for webclips and the icon update?
 
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wow that is crazy... Thank god I have an iPhone!
 
This reminds me back when they had that whole $5 802.11n upgrade issue which, once again, punished early adopters. Conveniently, the upgrade was quickly found on various torrent sites. This is one of those situations that I believe Apple deserves to have software pirated from them. Don't punish early adopters and make them pay for what new customers get for free.

Just my two cents. :p
 
SubliminalMac said:
You are a perfect customer for apple, conformant! wasnt apple built on being non-conformant? Apparently being an early adopter is now punishable instead of being the blood that flows to create a new product great!!

you sir are ignorant
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Apple wasn't built on non-conformant (sic). It was built on charging above-market prices for above-average products. The price levels may be different now but the company was built on high prices.

The OP isn't ignorant. He simply disagrees with you.
 
Apple are a business with 1000's of employees, many being paid extremely good money to develop software and products which we can actually get excited about.

How are apple suppose to pay these employees and stay in BUSINESS then, with your good will at having all this stuff given away.

Stop complaining about $20 why should apple give you all this intellectual property for free, sorry but not everything in life is free and $20 is not much. Come on.
 
vikas soni said:
It reminds me of my 2 year old SPOILED kid. He has to have everything. No matter what. If he thinks he should have it then he has to get it there and then. Or else he`ll start crying. Crying and crying until he gets what he wants even if it makes no sense. I cant expect my 2year old to grow up and start thinking logically
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I don't have much hope for him either, to be honest.
 
I wonder what happens if you "restore to default" your iPod touch on the new version of itunes? does it track that the "default" for your iPod had, or didnt have, the new apps?
 
jonathanjong said:
Sure, third-party apps might not be as slick and smooth as Apple's born-and-breds,....
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I'm sorry, but that's my $20 justification there... if I wanted buggy half baked hacked things I wouldn't buy an iPod to start with.


Listen people, I'm sure they expected this backlash, it happens every time there's a paid update. I'm pretty sure they've weighed up the options and found that a lot of people would pay...
 
stockcerts said:
I just bought my Touch today. Will I have to pay the $20- upgrade for the software?
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That's what I would like to know! I held off on buying the Touch in case of updates... can I go buy one in the store and get the upgrade free, or will I have to wait for new ones to get into the system?
 
mrgreen4242 said:
I think that's interesting, but the price is the issue here, and the fact that they are giving it away for new touch purchases. Had it been $5 and they charged new touch owners the same price it would have been at least pretty fair, but this is just screwing the early buyers, again.
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How do you know they're giving it away to new purchasers? As I see it, you can continue to get free downloads for the touch (inc 1.1.3), but if you want to add these apps that were never mentioned before for the touch you can buy them for $20. I really can't understand what people are moaning about: It's $20 for God's sake, not $2000 and it gives you functionality that was never even hinted at through official channels.
 
I don't think a lot of people will pay for this update;

I do not have detailed demographic data, obviously, but a HUGE number of high school age and college age students received the Touch for christmas.

Do you think we are going to see a large number of these people dropping twenty dollars on a month old gift for features that are free to anyone with half a brain and an internet connection?

Never.
 
Gee I'm in a pickle of whether to restore and upgrade and pay for the apps and not have to worry about jailbreaking etc or just leave my ipod jailbroken. I'll wait and see what transpires
 
SubliminalMac said:
It all makes sense now.... Im leasing my iPod Touch from apple for a one time charge.

why do people this retarded even know how to post....JEEZ
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I didn't call anyone names - I may be retarded but I'm not offensive.

Apple has the right to charge whatever they want and you have the right to not buy. You also have the ability to steal it and I assume they take this into account when making their pricing decisions.
 
One more comment on people who think our dissatisfaction is unjustified. When the iPhone and iPod Touch was released, everyone realized that the key word was potential. Jobs admitted as much. No physical buttons = Endless possibilities. It was all software. Naturally, rightly or wrongly, consumers expected the iPhone and iPod Touch to get better and better with each update. That's what Apple has always done, after all, at no extra cost. When we bought Apple products in the past, we bought potential. We learnt by induction - and by Jobs cajoling us - that the same would obtain for the Touch. it didn't. Sure, Apple is not bound to give us anything for free, but that doesn't mean we can't be biffed. We had expectations and Apple failed to meet them. And so we're annoyed.
 
I think the thing to do is live with your jailbroken/non-jailbroken Touches until the release of the SDK and re-evaluate your situation then.

If the SDK offers a bona-fide method of adding other applications (themes, games, etc.) then it might be worth giving up on the jailbreaking route so that your Touch is forward-compatible as much as possible. If the SDK really is nothing more than repackaged Javascript apps (as some people speculate), then stick with the jailbreaking route.

Either way, this sets a bad precedent for future Apple devices that are 100% software based; if you happen to buy a non-profit generating device, be ready to pay for incremental upgrades.
 
dmaxdmax said:
If you want to steal it go right ahead but be honest about your dishonest act. If you think it isn't "stealing" just ask an Apple rep. They own it so they get to decide. It's the same as "I'm not cheating on my wife if all we do is hold hands." All you have to do is ask your wife - if she thinks that equates to cheating than cheating it is.
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Except they don't. The internet rule is that end users get to decide, whatever Apple or any other corporation thinks. If they don't like it, then they can cry more. Welcome to the new jailbroken world.

Whining like this is pointless. Companies have no real power over what we do with their stuff. Get used to it.
 
As I put in the iPhone thread, I do not understand why they chose the iPhone Dock over the Leopard Style iPod Touch Dock...I really wanted it on my iPhone...I really wanted it, but not a big deal.
 
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