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Apple Announces iPod Touch Software Update
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In cyberspace, such claims are pointless. Whine as much as you like. If people want to jailbreak their iPods and download whatever apps they like, neither you nor Apple can stop them. So cry more.
So back to the features of the Touch: do iPod touch users get the ability to do web clips? I keep seeing it as a new feature of the iPhone, but this video would seem to suggest otherwise as there are a ton of icons on the screen...
To be an early adopter...
...or not, that is the question...
I'm an early adopter. Bought rev A of the MacBook Pro back in 2006 and it is serving me quite well today (albeit running Leopard now, not Tiger).
HOWEVER...
Today's keynote does have me a little miffed. Maybe even pissed.
Why?
I preordered an Apple TV after last year's keynote. I remember it was delayed from Feb 07 to Mar 07, but I lived with that. And now, the price has dropped from $299 to $229. If iPhone users can get (some) store credit after the price drop for the SAME hardware, why not early adopters of Apple TV?
And, of course, this iPod touch update... Got mine a couple weeks after it was announced. Lived without the calendar add/edit functionality first, and was glad that was given free in an update. And I can understand why some of the apps that are on the iPhone could be charged for on an iPod touch. But first thing's first: other iPods have the Notes functionality already! Sure, read-only, but that's more than the iPod touch prior to today.
Granted, I love my iPod touch, and how it's keeping me satisfied until I get an iPhone (which will be next month). But moves like this, charging for relatively minor updates that had already been developed and deployed... ARGH!!!
...or not, that is the question...
I'm an early adopter. Bought rev A of the MacBook Pro back in 2006 and it is serving me quite well today (albeit running Leopard now, not Tiger).
HOWEVER...
Today's keynote does have me a little miffed. Maybe even pissed.
Why?
I preordered an Apple TV after last year's keynote. I remember it was delayed from Feb 07 to Mar 07, but I lived with that. And now, the price has dropped from $299 to $229. If iPhone users can get (some) store credit after the price drop for the SAME hardware, why not early adopters of Apple TV?
And, of course, this iPod touch update... Got mine a couple weeks after it was announced. Lived without the calendar add/edit functionality first, and was glad that was given free in an update. And I can understand why some of the apps that are on the iPhone could be charged for on an iPod touch. But first thing's first: other iPods have the Notes functionality already! Sure, read-only, but that's more than the iPod touch prior to today.
Granted, I love my iPod touch, and how it's keeping me satisfied until I get an iPhone (which will be next month). But moves like this, charging for relatively minor updates that had already been developed and deployed... ARGH!!!
your posts are offensive; i don't think you should post in this forum.
Easy solution, take iPod touch back to Apple Store, Apple Repair centre, new iPod Touch with new iPod Touch software fresh from Apple.
It has to be said though for all the iPods that I have in stock at the moment customers will expect the newest and best in the box already, I have enough problems with people who have "issues" with downloading the free updates to their current iPods.
It has to be said though for all the iPods that I have in stock at the moment customers will expect the newest and best in the box already, I have enough problems with people who have "issues" with downloading the free updates to their current iPods.
I don't own an iPod touch, but I'm about to recommend one to a friend. First, as a previous poster noted, Apple doesn't charge for iPhone and Apple TV "updates" because the cost is factored in over time. Second, these "updates" to the iPod touch are actually *new* features. "Updates" to existing functionality (security or otherwise) are free and will continue to be. But you need to pay for "new" functionality. It's like buying new software for your Mac. Your iPod touch will work fine without the new "programs". It's your choice to buy the new software or not. And, finally, as other posters have noted, Apple is required to charge for adding new functionality (S-Ox). Otherwise, the government (and sue-happy shareholders) will start breathing down their neck.
The new iPod touch will include 1.1.3 but probably not the apps - they are being packaged separately from updates as a $20 extra. Want the update and not the apps - not a problem, just download it for free. If you want the apps, drop $20 or break the law: the choice is yours
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Very happy with the new features, disappointed with the price...and the price drop of the model as well.
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I just called the Apple sales number listed on their website and spoke with a sales dude. He said that anyone who purchased a Touch after Dec 27 would be eligible to get the upgrades for free.
I just ordered mine today as soon as I heard about the new apps---thought others might be interested to know. I'll post more when I get my Touch tomorrow and figure out how to get the apps w/o paying 20 bucks. Otherwise, it goes right back to Amazon.
I just called the Apple sales number listed on their website and spoke with a sales dude. He said that anyone who purchased a Touch after Dec 27 would be eligible to get the upgrades for free.
I just ordered mine today as soon as I heard about the new apps---thought others might be interested to know. I'll post more when I get my Touch tomorrow and figure out how to get the apps w/o paying 20 bucks. Otherwise, it goes right back to Amazon.
Tell you what, why don't you just send me $20 to pay for it on my iPod Touch? After all, it's "Just 20 bucks." You'll be happy because you'll have proven yourself right that $20 is insignificant, and I'll (the rest of us in principle) will be happy because I (the MacRumors community, in principle) got the update.
the bigger picture of $20? yeah, I fail to see that too.
a company is asking me to pay for a product? wow. there are lost so instances in the market place in which a feature is free on model and for a price on another. Sure, these apps are free on the iPhone but I'm also not paying $80+ per month to AT&T to use them either. Would i rather pay $20 to get them or a lot more to use them every month? hmmmmmmm?
bad move, as bad as record companies!! people see the ipod software as free with the ipod, and should get free maintenance. this update will (and probably "should") get pirated like crazy. BAD. BUSINESS. MODEL.
App Purchase Didn't Work For Me
Applied the iPod Touch update, then bought the apps. iTunes told me to plug the ipod back in to install the apps, did this, nothing happened even after syncing and then restoring the Touch.
Anyone else had this? My iTunes UK account reports that I have purchased the Apps.
Applied the iPod Touch update, then bought the apps. iTunes told me to plug the ipod back in to install the apps, did this, nothing happened even after syncing and then restoring the Touch.
Anyone else had this? My iTunes UK account reports that I have purchased the Apps.
Again, you fail to see why people are upset.
Also, I am not saying this anger is justified; just giving explanation.
It is the principle of punishment for early adaptation of a product.
Would you happily pay for a firmware update on your desktop computer that unlocked the full potential of your processor even though you already paid full price for the product?
Of course you wouldn't.
That is why incremental software updates, and yes, I do see this as an incremental update, are always free from apple.
Thanks for the link. I did send them feedback. I too am upset that as an early adopter I'm being punished by Apple. I can see if all Touch buyers had to pay an extra premium for these apps. But to give it free to new Touch buyers seems unnecessarily cruel to those who supported Apple before the extra goodies.
Exactly. Apple gives free updates of OSX, iLife, and all their other software to anyone who purchases an Apple computer for the life of the machine. (I just received the my Leopard upgrade for my original Bondi Blue iMac. I can't install it, but they keep sending me all this free software!) Why should the iPod Touch be any different? You pay a one-time hardware fee, and then any and all software is free forever, right?
Although I don't own an iPod touch, I think that $20 for the upgrade is a big kick in the teeth from Apple.
Its already an expensive device, there is no reason on earth they should charge for the upgrade. Sure, its only $20 ... but thats still expensive for what it gives you.
Its already an expensive device, there is no reason on earth they should charge for the upgrade. Sure, its only $20 ... but thats still expensive for what it gives you.
Yes, i'm failing miserably. An incremental update is an update of an app or OS I already paid for. These are apps Apple never intended to put on the Touch. I bought my Touch knowing full well that the apps were not there and hoping they'd come along as freebees. So, I'm out of luck. But the product I bought doe EXACTLY what it was supposed to do when I bought it. No one lied to me. Now I want to add functionality it did not have. Am I disappointed that i have to pay? Sure. Angry? No. Outraged? Of course not.