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Try explaining that to the family who wants to sit down after dinner and watch a movie. THE WHOLE MOVIE. This is lame so far on my system, typical cable connection, Netgear Router and G5 Mac. :confused:

Yep, it's not all that it's cracked out to be. Eventually Internet connections and hard drive storage will make downloads the easiest, most convenient way of owning your movies. Set top boxes like :apple:TV have great potential but are currently limited by Internet connections and storage, especially when you start talking about high def content.
 
I think the ones you get on Apple TV will all be better quality, even the non-HD ones cause Apple TV says the regular ones are "DVD quality," whereas itunes always just says "near DVD."
 
I think the ones you get on Apple TV will all be better quality, even the non-HD ones cause Apple TV says the regular ones are "DVD quality," whereas itunes always just says "near DVD."

That is true. iTunes and iPod needs to be updated to DVD quality. It's past time that they update them. This is just as retarded as letting the ITMS stay at 128 kbps bit rate for so long. They should have been 192 kbps or better from the very beginning. And eventually they should stop charging a premium on HD content. It's not fair. Digital broadcasting is going to be a standard straight from the government starting next February. If the government is mandating it, then Apple should be ahead of the game in this regard; if you market yourself as a quality product, then put out a quality product. They charged extra for a higher bitrate on music, and that was wrong too. Should have never happened. Luckily, Amazon's low prices forced iTunes to lower the prices on iTunes+ tracks to 99 cents.

I have bought two movies from iTunes and both of them have awful quality: Pirates 3 and O Brother Where Art Thou. I'm thinking of ripping Pirates 3 and deleting the iTunes one. I got the DVD for Christmas from family members but I could not wait so I downloaded it from iTunes the day it was released. As for O Brother, I downloaded it as an experiment. Luckily Pirates 3 is much better quality than O Brother, but still crap compared to the rip I have of Pirates 1 and 2 for instance.
 
Sweet.

All I can say is, netflix is so fired. Their streaming service works with windows and not with mac os. This is definitely my last month with them.
 
Sweet.

All I can say is, netflix is so fired. Their streaming service works with windows and not with mac os. This is definitely my last month with them.

Parallels, Boot Camp? That's what's great about Mac buddy! We have a choice. Windows users don't. They're stuck with the crappy OS all the time no matter what!
 
I think the ones you get on Apple TV will all be better quality, even the non-HD ones cause Apple TV says the regular ones are "DVD quality," whereas itunes always just says "near DVD."

I'm confused...I can stream downloaded HD content from my MP or MBP to my Apple TV, but it takes 4 hours to download a SD movie. So someone tell me again how I'm going to buy an HD movie and start watching it within 30 seconds???
 
I'm confused...I can stream downloaded HD content from my MP or MBP to my Apple TV, but it takes 4 hours to download a SD movie. So someone tell me again how I'm going to buy an HD movie and start watching it within 30 seconds???

Apparently Steve has a different type of "standard broadband connection" than the rest of us.
 
4 hours??

4 hours? It only took 30 minutes to download RoboCop... And where are the files saved that we download... the info screen only says not available...
 
This is very interesting, I am a little surprised that Apple has gone ahead and jumped into this market. Why? This market already seems pretty well covered by on demand content, netflix on demand and netflix's continuing work to get their new dvr box on demand service integrated with mainstream tv dvr boxes. But perhaps Apple's "cool factor" will keep this service going smoothly along with their AppleTV product much like it has been keeping mac sales steady despite economic troubles. Keep on keeping on Apple! :)

I suppose it will be the only alternative for people who don't have digital cable, a DVR or a PC.
 
4 hours? It only took 30 minutes to download RoboCop... And where are the files saved that we download... the info screen only says not available...

Wow, what is your broadband speed? Pirates of the Caribbean is taking 4 hours to download on SBC DSL. I can't start watching until I've waited 90 minutes. Maybe the servers are bogged down, but this isn't any slower than my previous experience downloading episodes of "Lost" from Apple.
 
Wow, what is your broadband speed? Pirates of the Caribbean is taking 4 hours to download on SBC DSL. I can't start watching until I've waited 90 minutes. Maybe the servers are bogged down, but this isn't any slower than my previous experience downloading episodes of "Lost" from Apple.

I'm on Road Runner... Nothing special... never been an issue for me... hmmm
 
Wow, what is your broadband speed? Pirates of the Caribbean is taking 4 hours to download on SBC DSL. I can't start watching until I've waited 90 minutes. Maybe the servers are bogged down, but this isn't any slower than my previous experience downloading episodes of "Lost" from Apple.

I'm on a university LAN and it took me 7-8 hours to download Pirates 3 the day it came out in early December. I was only getting speeds in the 100-120 kbps range. I think my college has limited us though compared to what it used to be. For instance, we have a server here with downloads of MS Office, XP, etc. for free under a Campus Agreement with Microsoft (it's how I got Office 2004 for my Macbook), and it used to be REALLY fast on my connection. I used to be able to download at 800 kbps-1000 kbps. But yesterday I was trying to download something from it and was only getting like 50 kbps.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A93 Safari/419.3)

maybe it will be done before my 30 days is up?:rolleyes:

I'm getting about 130kbps download from their servers and my DSL speed is about 1400kbps. Heck! I just realized EDGE is faster! Finally something EDGE is faster than! LOL.
 
Can someone tell me why all the Fox movies are encoded for rental in Fullscreen...I am not paying Apple's already steep price (which I am willing to do for Widescreen) for a Fullscreen, Less-Than Dvd Quality Encode.
 
That is true. iTunes and iPod needs to be updated to DVD quality. It's past time that they update them. This is just as retarded as letting the ITMS stay at 128 kbps bit rate for so long. They should have been 192 kbps or better from the very beginning. And eventually they should stop charging a premium on HD content. It's not fair. Digital broadcasting is going to be a standard straight from the government starting next February. If the government is mandating it, then Apple should be ahead of the game in this regard; if you market yourself as a quality product, then put out a quality product. They charged extra for a higher bitrate on music, and that was wrong too. Should have never happened. Luckily, Amazon's low prices forced iTunes to lower the prices on iTunes+ tracks to 99 cents.

I have bought two movies from iTunes and both of them have awful quality: Pirates 3 and O Brother Where Art Thou. I'm thinking of ripping Pirates 3 and deleting the iTunes one. I got the DVD for Christmas from family members but I could not wait so I downloaded it from iTunes the day it was released. As for O Brother, I downloaded it as an experiment. Luckily Pirates 3 is much better quality than O Brother, but still crap compared to the rip I have of Pirates 1 and 2 for instance.

It is ridiculous considering the new iPods are able to support 720xN resolutions with higher bit rates into the 2,000...together they produce DVD results as that is my setting now in Handbrake for both my iPhone and Apple TV.
 
Can someone explain this to me?

I wake up and see Rentals were added to iTunes. Sweet.

I do a "power search" of all rentals available in iTunes, and I find that there are currently 150 rentals.

150. And none of them, just like the original movie store, are movies I'd care much to see.

Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to be the "netflix killer?"

Yesterday I told my girlfriend to cancel netflex. Today I'm saying, "Better hold off and keep your subscription."
 
Okey, so if a get this right, the new rental service, the resolution is 720x480 (anamorphic)? Is it H.264?

If thats true, then we would be able to make our own movies in that resolution!? Right? Thats great news!
 
Okey, so if a get this right, the new rental service, the resolution is 720x480 (anamorphic)? Is it H.264?

If thats true, then we would be able to make our own movies in that resolution!? Right? Thats great news!

I am pretty sure only the Apple TV uses the Anamorphic Setting for SD, not iTunes...which is terrible.
 
I love Apple, but this is no netflix killer.
Netflix is cheaper if you go over 4 movies a month
Netflix will have new movies 30 days before Apple
Netflix you can watch at your leisure and not "within 24 hours" once you start
Nice try Apple, but I'll wait for 3.0 (with a Blue Ray)......
 
Anyone else notice that it says "full screen" on a lot of movies? That SUCKS.


I agree!!! I NEVER buy a DVD that is FULLSCREEN and I will NEVER rent one from iTunes! They (Apple) compromised with the studios to get this up and running. Don't even get me started with the complexity of the user agreement. This is at best a novelty for people who are really into movies. The average user won't care about the fullscreen, though. They don't even realize a lot of the movie is missing in fullscreen. I'm sticking with Netflicks - MORE MOVIES, BETTER QUALITY, CONVENIENT, CHEAP. Apple doesn't really beat them in any of these areas, and by the looks of it, won't for a very long time... Better luck next time.
 
I agree!!! I NEVER buy a DVD that is FULLSCREEN and I will NEVER rent one from iTunes! They (Apple) compromised with the studios to get this up and running. Don't even get me started with the complexity of the user agreement. This is at best a novelty for people who are really into movies. The average user won't care about the fullscreen, though. They don't even realize a lot of the movie is missing in fullscreen. I'm sticking with Netflicks - MORE MOVIES, BETTER QUALITY, CONVENIENT, CHEAP. Apple doesn't really beat them in any of these areas, and by the looks of it, won't for a very long time... Better luck next time.

It certainly looks like the studios won this round, but Apple needed to start gaining a foothold in the market. You can't negotiate when you have no negotiating power. Netflix and Blockbuster have WAY more influence over the video market than Apple will be allowed to over the next few years.

Video on Demand is fundamentally different then music downloads. The truth is, if the Cable companies would offer reasonable VOD rates, they could pretty much corner the market. They already have the set top boxes and the delivery mechanism, but are too greedy to see the big picture.

I already have an ATV for different reasons, so this is a plus for me. For an impulse rental, the convenience factor is huge! I don't know that this would make me go out an buy one though.
 
I agree!!! I NEVER buy a DVD that is FULLSCREEN and I will NEVER rent one from iTunes! They (Apple) compromised with the studios to get this up and running. Don't even get me started with the complexity of the user agreement. This is at best a novelty for people who are really into movies. The average user won't care about the fullscreen, though. They don't even realize a lot of the movie is missing in fullscreen. I'm sticking with Netflicks - MORE MOVIES, BETTER QUALITY, CONVENIENT, CHEAP. Apple doesn't really beat them in any of these areas, and by the looks of it, won't for a very long time... Better luck next time.
From the various posts here and elsewhere, it appears that it may be that they are simply mislabeled. I haven't tried myself yet (waiting for AppleTV update), so I don't know for sure.
 
Parallels, Boot Camp? That's what's great about Mac buddy! We have a choice. Windows users don't. They're stuck with the crappy OS all the time no matter what!
These days when someone shows me their Windows computer, I just want to say, "Really? You use that all day?" It is just unimaginable.

I can see why once you go Mac, you don't go back. :D
 
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