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Apple Announces Major iTunes Update Coming Next Month [Update: Version 10.7 Released Today]
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That's not true at all. Did you even watch the keynote? Don't tell me you just looked at a couple of screenshots on the website and made all these conclusions about the entirety of U.
That's a relief. I have a huge library and the concept of what 'album' a song is from is so 1970's.
I have a library of music and I hit shuffle and walk away.I do hope playlists are easy to get to and/or you can get your left side back. With 34K songs I rely on playlists to keep the sandbox organized.
So how did you miss when he clearly showed the playlists view? And even if he didn't show it in the keynote, why are you ranting about software that you haven't even used yet or seen a full review of?
There are a TON of things in iTunes that wasn't shown in that very brief presentation. Did you think they were all gone too? They focused on new features added and almost certainly didn't even cover all of the new stuff. Not sure why you came to the conclusions you did so prematurely.
iTunes U?
I am hoping for an update to how iTunes U works (or doesn't). It's great on my iPhone or iPad, but is much less organized on the Mac. Since the video files for the classes are so large it is nice to use the Mac's HD for storage.
I am hoping for an update to how iTunes U works (or doesn't). It's great on my iPhone or iPad, but is much less organized on the Mac. Since the video files for the classes are so large it is nice to use the Mac's HD for storage.
iTunes 10 is fine but sluggish
I agree. For me, everything about iTunes is fine as it is except the sluggishness. I have a new Mac Pro with 12GB of RAM, and it can sometimes take a while before a new song plays after you click on it, as well as it can take a long time before the window appear after pressing CMD+I (it may have to do with the fact that I embed the cover in my Apple Lossless files). But the worst sluggishness happens when you stream to more than once source, i.e. Airport Expresses. Then it can take 2-3 seconds before the song starts playing after you click on it. So clicking forward in time isn't really practical as you have to wait so long for every click. This is really annoying.
I agree. For me, everything about iTunes is fine as it is except the sluggishness. I have a new Mac Pro with 12GB of RAM, and it can sometimes take a while before a new song plays after you click on it, as well as it can take a long time before the window appear after pressing CMD+I (it may have to do with the fact that I embed the cover in my Apple Lossless files). But the worst sluggishness happens when you stream to more than once source, i.e. Airport Expresses. Then it can take 2-3 seconds before the song starts playing after you click on it. So clicking forward in time isn't really practical as you have to wait so long for every click. This is really annoying.
While I agree with the sentiment, I have to admit I'm surprised Apple supported a PPC build as long as they did given they dumped EVERYTHING ELSE for PPC some time ago (which by M$ standards wasn't long at all, but this is Apple we're talking about and they suck at providing long term support for their products and the worst part is that's it's on purpose. They want to force you to buy new hardware whether you 'need' it or not). I have my entire library on an upgraded PowerMac G4. It's fine as a server and until the past year or two, it was fine on the Net as well. Yeah, it doesn't handle HD on its own terminal (no trouble serving it, though), but just about everything else was fine. But ever since the "Browser Wars For Speed", it seems like the Internet has gotten slower and slower and slower. Yeah, they render Javascript faster, but hasn't anyone else noticed how much more CRAP web sites put (mostly hidden in tool-open things along with buttons for every social network thing ever invented in the world) and that they simply take longer to render period. Yeah, maybe you don't notice if you buy a new computer every year, but things are noticeably slower even on my MBP from a few years ago. The Internet has gotten slower and IMO that doesn't equal better.
I really miss simpler layouts with faster load/render times. It used to be you could go back to a previous page and it would all be loaded in the buffer and come up instantly. Now, almost all web pages have to be reloaded because there's just too much CRAP in them. It's sad, really. Yeah, Internet connections have gotten faster, but rendering <> loading and like everything else in this world computer-wise, apparently faster computers = license to make everything BLOATED CRAPWARE.
So frankly, any bloat iTunes have seems MILD by comparison to me. Yeah, it's bloated (especially by 8 and 16-bit computer standards). But it doesn't feel anymore bloated than it did 5 years ago on my same computer, despite having a whole lot more features built into it now. Larger library handling actually got a huge speed boost a few years ago over earlier "less bloated" builds so I don't really buy that it's too big. It handles MEDIA and there are a lot of media types and most play on everything from Apple TV to iPods and iPads so YES, they NEED to be in iTunes. If you just want something to play an MP3, try the spacebar in Finder.
That's funny since iTunes dates clear back to freaking OS9. How much more "Mac App" can you get? You've got the Windows people saying iTunes sucks on Windows because it looks like a Mac App which doesn't fit in Windows and we've got people like you telling us it doesn't look like a Mac App at all. LOL. WTF does a "Mac App" look like anyway? It's got the traffic light buttons. It's got the old Tiger stripes in the list view. It's got Steve Jobs colorless DRAB look to it. Sounds like a Mac App to me.
Honestly, guy, I'm running iTunes on a ONE CORE G4 PPC machine (topped out at 1.5GB memory) and no apps come to mind that interfere with music at all here. Video? Yes, but that's because this machine is too slow for HD and barely fast enough for 480p and has only 1 core so it's expected. But music? I can serve 3 AppleTVs and play a song on the PowerMac and be syncing my iPod and the Gen1 AppleTVs AND be browsing the Web with everything from e-mail to a word processor running in the background and the music still doesn't get interrupted. I'm thinking there's something seriously wrong with your Mac Pro (if it is a Mac Pro you're referring to and not a Hackintosh or something). Maybe OSX simply doesn't like your machine for some reason. That wouldn't be a total shock to me given Apple's piss-poor support for the Mac Pro in recent years.
Could you clarify what you mean by double clicking a video stopped working? I'm confused because it sounds like you're saying you can't double click a movie/tv show/video inside of iTunes from a list and have it start playing. I know that can't be what you mean because that has NEVER stopped working in iTunes here (running 10.6.3 at the moment). I just tried it with an episode of Doctor Who just to be sure I didn't miss something (since I normally watch videos on my Apple TV units on large screens, not in my den on a computer monitor) and sure enough, double clicking it resulted in the video playing. I'm starting to think you're using some other program or your computer has been taken over by a trojan or something (odd for a Mac, but what you're saying just doesn't reflect reality here). My 2008 MBP (running 10.6.8) and my Netbook Hackintosh run iTunes just fine too.
The only problem I've ever had is with iTunes own video tagging for cover image so I use MetaX and Muxo to imbed the data and that lets me add things like the little "HD" icon that you normally can't have. It's true that TV Shows don't go to "TV Shows" without selecting the lot of them the first time and changing their media type, but that's not really iTunes fault. The containers used don't have that meta data type in them. Besides, importing a bunch of tv shows and mass-clicking them to do ONE click in the Get Info thing to tell iTunes they are TV Shows and not movies isn't that hard, guy.
There's nothing common about FLAC, IMO. It's like asking Apple to support a Linux crap that no one cares about except Linux people. In other words, it's a 3rd party open-source thing that someone thought should be a world-wide standard like MP3 or JPG and like PNG, it just didn't catch on. I'm sure in your circles, you think it's as common as MP3, but I can assure you it's not. Short of pirates putting stuff up for free on social networks, it's pretty much limited to stuff you import/encode yourself and you can just as easily select Apple Lossless or use WAV as FLAC. Besides, XLD will easily convert back and forth for you all day long and there's no loss since it's lossless. It doesn't even take long on my PPC machine so I know it'd be fast on a newer machine. I'm not trying to make total excuses for Apple because they should definitely have a plugin or something to support things they don't want to support (like AVI, which IS a massively common format for many cameras/camcorders and I shouldn't have to convert a compressed format to something else as you lose quality. Apple's own FINDER and Quicktime work with it, so why shouldn't iTunes be able to use it? Oh yeah, it's because iTunes was really designed to sell you crap from the iTunes store which is why the mini-browser is there as well. It's to sell you crap. One the one hand, it's annoying, but on the other hand, it IS convenient sometimes.
I mean, sorry, but you just sound like you're whining about mostly unimportant things and apparently have a defective 8-core Mac or something since nothing you describe happens here.
On iTunes it says "Ping will no longer be available as of September 30" I used to like Ping
While I never used it, it does seem a shame in some respects since it was a way for independent music artists to get more attention through social networking built right into iTunes (since the record companies have a lock more or less on traditional channels like radio). I'm about to release my own independent album and figured Ping could help get recommendations out. Really, though, something like Pandora that could link music styles to established music would be far more useful, though.
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No surprise there. The more machines that support the latest iTunes, the more people can buy iPhones and iPods and iPads.
Is Grid view all there is?
What happened to Cover Flow and list views? I have more than 50,000 music tracks and don't want to get carpal tunnel problems from scrolling through grid view.
What happened to Cover Flow and list views? I have more than 50,000 music tracks and don't want to get carpal tunnel problems from scrolling through grid view.
iPhoto and mail got bloated along with iTunes. We're seeing increased focus for apps now since iOS, which is a good thing. ITunes was the worst of the bunch, but not the only offender.
As for syncing, no I don't want 8+ apps for sync. I want 4.
- Music for when I want to load music on to my iPod/phone
- Movies
- Books
- AppStore
That's it. Backups and shared files could be taken care of via the Finder. Also, there's nothing to say there couldn't be shared media sync panels to sync data from other library apps. For example, I can access my iPhoto or Aperture library from the finder's open boxes.
Anything you buy from Apple would be automatically synced anyway via iCloud.
I think it would actually make things a lot simpler. Typically when you go to sync there's just one type of content you want to push over, IMO.
And, yet, those were your examples to demonstrate Apple's "typical app design".
As I said, I think that is a convoluted solution that ignores the complexity of creating a sync solution as well as the fact that most iOS users are on Windows. It also ignores all the fringe cases that I described earlier.
Separating out applications sounds great in theory. It might work when iCloud grows to support the huge amount of data involved in media sync sometime in the future. But it's just not practical with today's reality.
iTunes is hardly a "piece of crap."
If they drop that then I won't upgrade.
Actually plenty of people do have 4GB or 8GB RAM buddy. And no it doesn't take up RAM.
You quoted a comment of mine in which I clearly mentioned not one, but TWO 3rd party mp3 players.
Forgive my laziness of not reading the entire thread, but has anybody else had issue after updating? My iTunes just locks up when I connect my iPhone or iPad. Seems this happened in the past as well.
Edit: NVM...working after another reboot. Should've known.
Edit: NVM...working after another reboot. Should've known.
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Great. Use one of them, then.
Thanks for the tip, I never though to actually try out one of them.
I hope there's List View and sorting by "Date Added"
+1. And I sure hope that List View will still able to sort songs by "Date Added" so that the list can sort itself with the newest albums at the top of the list.
+1. And I sure hope that List View will still able to sort songs by "Date Added" so that the list can sort itself with the newest albums at the top of the list.
It is from a performance standpoint. You honestly have no objection to many actions in iTunes causing a beach ball? You honestly think it's fine that many functions aren't multithreaded and don't use more than one cpu core?
And plenty don't, and have machines that don't allow that much. Really, an mp3 player shouldn't require a machine with 4 gigs of ram. And it most certainly does take way more ram than it should.
I didn't check out all this thread, but I downloaded iTunes from here on my Mac and it looks exactly the same.
Do I miss something here?
The new version of iTunes (11) isn't being released till late October. The version you downloaded is just the incremental update 10.7
Upgraded to 10.7 64-bit on Windows 8 Release Preview and 1080P video is choppy now. Last time this happened I had to wipe it off completely and reinstall. Just going to wait for iTunes 11 and/or Windows 8 retail now rather than bother with reloading it.
They still haven't fixed the false 1080P "too large" error either.
Just going to wait for iTunes 11 and/or Windows 8 retail now rather than bother with reloading it.They still haven't fixed the false 1080P "too large" error either.
Sadly, and it is needed, see below.
As above.
Same.
No, there is a situation where it is needed, upgrading from iOS 5.1.1 to iOS 6 on PPC.
I bought a new iPhone 3GS just two months ago, it will support iOS 6 but iTunes 10.7 is needed
yet it does not run on PPC.
Huge oversight by Apple.
How can I sync an iPhone 3GS(even later ones-4-4s) on a PPC if the minimum iTunes version needed is
10.7 and won't run on PPC????