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Apple Announces Multitasking in iPhone OS 4.0
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That is a very valid point.
That's good to hear.I'm not concerned at all.
I honestly don't want to see a system in place to be honest. You already appear to have enough fun with the ignore list and announcing for all to see who you're ignoring.
What's to prevent me from voting this article negative? Why does it matter?
Honestly, this is more like OS 3.5 then 4.0. And....um....sorry, but what is being considered multitasking on the iPhone is not really multitasking.
But it's definitely a good compromise and a step forward. I have an iPod Touch 2gen so I couldn't install it anyway.
So I guess my next question is: when do the 4th gen ipod Touches come out?
But it's definitely a good compromise and a step forward. I have an iPod Touch 2gen so I couldn't install it anyway.
So I guess my next question is: when do the 4th gen ipod Touches come out?
Apparently you didn't read my comment at all. It only matters because it's indicative of what is going on in the discussion threads themselves.
And running an Ignore list isn't fun, it's a pain in the butt. But for some of the more egregious trolls, a worthwhile pain to avoid their endless tirades. And only worth pointing out because some users aren't aware that you can, in fact, add these blowhards to an Ignore list.
Because they need to justify, in their minds, why they purchased the product that isn't nearly as popular. The more money they spent and the bigger the popularity difference, the harder they have to justify.
It only seems to matter when someone gets worked up over it.
Well it's your choice.
I'm interested in new hardware as well. Waiting this long for the software was worth it. The tasks that can be "backgrounded" are the ones that most interested me.Honestly, this is more like OS 3.5 then 4.0. And....um....sorry, but what is being considered multitasking on the iPhone is not really multitasking.
But it's definitely a good compromise and a step forward. I have an iPod Touch 2gen so I couldn't install it anyway.
So I guess my next question is: when do the 4th gen ipod Touches come out?
I have a 3G, not 3GS, that is, no "multitasking"... that is, when (by mistake) I'll tap on that add, the app will actually close and will start downloading more data than is doing it now. I actually don't need any kind of adds. If I wanna find out about something, I can search for it, I don't need some funny video showing me stuff (mortage and bleaching adds) as Y! mail used to show me everytime when opening it to check my emails. (that was the main reason for me to stop using Y! mail.) Text info is enough! (as gmail shows me now)
My phone is ~1 year old and I'm getting no multitasking? That sux and makes me unhappy. That has made me to use ProSwitcher. I don't need tens of apps running in the background, but ~3 will be enough for me and for the average Joe like me.
At the end of the day, it's a d@mn multimedia (smart?)phone, not a full blown computer or a game box... so I'm not really searching for productivity, butgotta be kidding me saying that I cannot run an IM and browse the web in the same time on a ~1 year old product.
Just because you bought your phone ~1 year ago doesn't mean the technology is only a year old. FYI.
I thought Apple was all about cutting edge technology but 4.0 doesn't look cutting edge at all...
It at least seems pretty cutting edge in giving an energy effecient multitasking solution. Like it or not it's important on a small mobile device. Not cutting edge is giving the a full blown multitasking option with no thought to the consequences which makes for a less than satisfactory user experience.
I don't think that is the issue at all. Well it might be for some people, but not all. I have nothing against Apple. I own several products and am typing this reply on an iPad so I don't think you can say that I don't like Apple.
With that said I think there are still advantages to the Android OS over the iPhone OS 4 when it comes to notifications and multitasking. The iPhone OS has strengths in many areas, but i don't see how anyhow could keep a straight face and say that the iPhone OS has a better notification system or is better at multitasking.
I have both and like both for different reasons. If you could mix the iPhone OS, Palm Web OS and Android all together and take each one's strength you would end up with a pretty amazing operating system.
I just can't believe the crap that people are putting out.
"Android or Nexus One or other phones have true multitasking"
Okay. Go. Buy. Them. Why are you wasting your time talking about what iPhone have and don't have? People know. People buy iPhones for what it has at the time they bought it, not what it can bring in the future or what it "could" do.
"More forced Ads"
Seriously? You don't like it, don't use the application. WTF, it is really that simple. You can either buy the app for the lack of advertising or don't buy it. Don't be cheap and greedy. Developers have to earn money someway and Apple is giving them an easy way to do so. Developers won't have to think twice about how much they should charge. They can easily create two versions with almost no extra time spent getting ads into their free version.
Also, the free applications already have the ads in there, all this does is replace the ads with much higher quality ads that won't force you to close the app and go to Safari. This actually will make people use the ads more often as they won't lose anything from watching it.
Also developers aren't stupid, forcing Ads down people's throat will only make them revolt and buy another application instead. They'll lose sales and customers, simple as that. Developers will be able to control how the ads work.
"WTF, my 2g Phone won't get iPhoneOS 4.0 or WTF my 3G won't get 4.0"
WTF seriously? You did not buy the iPhone for THE FUTURE, you bought it for what it can do at that time. Be happy Apple gave you 2.0 and 3.0 at all. Apple isn't obligated to keep giving you free software upgrades forever.
It makes absolutely no sense for somebody to go into a store, buy a computer today just to expect MS/Apple to give them Windows 8/9/10 or OS X 10.7/8/9 or even OS XI for free and for all the features it contains.
"Android or Nexus One or other phones have true multitasking"
Okay. Go. Buy. Them. Why are you wasting your time talking about what iPhone have and don't have? People know. People buy iPhones for what it has at the time they bought it, not what it can bring in the future or what it "could" do.
"More forced Ads"
Seriously? You don't like it, don't use the application. WTF, it is really that simple. You can either buy the app for the lack of advertising or don't buy it. Don't be cheap and greedy. Developers have to earn money someway and Apple is giving them an easy way to do so. Developers won't have to think twice about how much they should charge. They can easily create two versions with almost no extra time spent getting ads into their free version.
Also, the free applications already have the ads in there, all this does is replace the ads with much higher quality ads that won't force you to close the app and go to Safari. This actually will make people use the ads more often as they won't lose anything from watching it.
Also developers aren't stupid, forcing Ads down people's throat will only make them revolt and buy another application instead. They'll lose sales and customers, simple as that. Developers will be able to control how the ads work.
"WTF, my 2g Phone won't get iPhoneOS 4.0 or WTF my 3G won't get 4.0"
WTF seriously? You did not buy the iPhone for THE FUTURE, you bought it for what it can do at that time. Be happy Apple gave you 2.0 and 3.0 at all. Apple isn't obligated to keep giving you free software upgrades forever.
It makes absolutely no sense for somebody to go into a store, buy a computer today just to expect MS/Apple to give them Windows 8/9/10 or OS X 10.7/8/9 or even OS XI for free and for all the features it contains.
Just because it is there doesn't mean you have to gratuitously use it. Most iPhone OS apps only have one screen. So expose making all of different screens visible isn't any more informative that one icon per application. They scrolling dock track can order the apps in most recently used order which is far more effective than trying to project micro versions of the screen context.
It is cmd-tab ( or alt-tab for the windows folks ) that really are implementing/mimicking. Expose is useful when have 12 buried windows and trying to find the one you want. Nothing is buried in iPhone OS apps. ( the only app that springs to mind that remotely has tabs is safari. If get to safari it is short hop to seeing a subset of its screens. )
With the larger screen of the iPad the "active app" dock is going to present more icons. How many apps really want to keep running currently in normal usage?
iPhone 3.2 already has a bunch of iPhone 4.0 features. They only thing need to do for fall is QA all of the iPad apps against the the newer APIs when have been updated to use them. Those app updates are why Fall. Plus look heck of goofy releasing hardware and then 3 months later nuking the OS with an update. Six months is a bit weird but the shorter the timeframe the more strange the effect. This also allows a rolling window for the 3rd party devs to first get apps ready for phone/touch deployment and then have a window to catch a breath before rolling out revised iPad versions that just spent a frenzy effort to get out. Think about the rapid succession of SDKs are here. More drama for developers isn't going to get better apps out the door.
Honestly, this is more like OS 3.5 then 4.0. And....um....sorry, but what is being considered multitasking on the iPhone is not really multitasking.
But it's definitely a good compromise and a step forward. I have an iPod Touch 2gen so I couldn't install it anyway.
So I guess my next question is: when do the 4th gen ipod Touches come out?
It is really multitasking.
It just has constraints.
Which is what is necessary to make the most of a limited resource.
(screen real estate and more important - battery life)
At first I thought the solution was kind of castrated as well.
However after thinking about it it makes sense, and it shows that Apple is also thinking about the user experience. I'm sure thier implementation took more thought and work than just opening the floodgates to fullblown multitasking which, while offering full freedom, would also offer too many negatives to the majority of iPhone users. ( in the form of a rapidly depleted battery complemented by sluggish response and lockups - sounds truly special to me
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However after thinking about it it makes sense, and it shows that Apple is also thinking about the user experience. I'm sure thier implementation took more thought and work than just opening the floodgates to fullblown multitasking which, while offering full freedom, would also offer too many negatives to the majority of iPhone users. ( in the form of a rapidly depleted battery complemented by sluggish response and lockups - sounds truly special to me
Apple is vilified for this approach, but one must respect their not taking the easy way out (and the way chosen by many of its competitors), which is to just "open the floodgates" and let the users deal with the mess.
Maybe Apple will just try to pick up the palmOS since they can't seem to ever make a good operating system of their own. Add an Apple face and a number of iPhone OS features, along with an updated iPhone with a little more muscle, and we should be good to go against the coming gauntlet of Android phones.
iPhone 3G users need to stop bitching already!
It's time for a NEW PHONE, yo!
be excited! we get new phones, all cheap and stuff!
bring on the smooth-ass ipad user experience!
I agree.
And I own a 3G myself.
However I bought mine when they were first released,
and my contract is up soon.
I was planning on getting this years new model anyway.
And I kinda figured the 3G would be left out of multitasking.
That all being said, it doesn't help if you just bought a 3G six months ago.
I'd be pretty bummed as well.
What you FAIL to realize is all the whining from MOST of us that have used real smartphones in the past and currently have contributed proper feedback and positive criticism (not blatant whining) to what you NOW are going to GET in iPhone OS 4.0. This so called pointless and time wasting posts having broadened YOUR horizons about what is possible and enjoyable & that improves your productivity (I sincerely doubt 80% of Fortune 500 companies use iPhone vs users in 80% of Fortune 500 companies own & use iPhones). This should properly rebuttal against what you feel are happy with OS X (Desktop vs mobile is NOT fully the same) and why your "time wasting" at looking what is possible is anything but.
Desktop Points:
remote desktop
vpn
fast user switching
(all debuted on Windows first, if horribly implemented. Apple implemented in a sweet way that I'm SURE you're enjoying)
Mobile Points:
VPN
Multitasking
security
mobile device management & OTA app delivery & IT Policy's
etc etc
(All featured on various other platforms!)
Soon data management WILL impact your network hogging iPhones that do NOT care for data bandwidth consumption on a network that you SHARE with other users ... THIS my friends is the true KEY to batter consumption that thus far ONLY the iPhone is plagued with and concerns so much development time/concern by Apple iPhone OS development team. This is horrible with a smartphone that today has more than 1000mAh battery: Standby, Continuous talk-time, and browsing over WiFi (regardless of joy of what is displayed) pales in comparison to the competition). This NEEDS to be fixed but I think Apple will ONLY do so with continued hardware roll out. This is the DIFFERENCE between a Mobile OS built for Mobile from the ground up vs tweaked and stripped about to suit a mobile platform from a desktop/laptop platform. Laptops/Tablets, even the iPad, are NOT the same as a phone/smartphone when power management is concerned.
The grass is either always greener or present on the other side but its how you enjoy the sun that gives you flowers.
Agree, but at that time it was the "latest" piece of
technology... but hey, seems iPad is obsolete already, and it was out only days ago. PS: "one more thing": if nobody complains/whine/inquire for new features, Apple will be not "that" fast bringing out new features, as the existing ones are making everybody perfectly happy, so, there is no requirement or market (to use or to create a new one) for improving, or "inventing" new features (even if seems many of them, lately, are coming from the jailbreaken comunity, and Apple is simply "improving" them).
Btw, I own several Apple products, but that cannot stop me complaining/whining about their products as I want them better than they are now ALREADY!
OMG, why do you speak about things you clearly don't understand ? It's a matter of memory (RAM) not of Mhz
multitasking with 128 Mb of RAM is a joke ...
Thanks Apple for looking to the future and not the past!
All you people upset that Apple isn't supporting multitask on your outdated hardware are amazing me. Your 2 year old phone works just fine the way it is now. It's not going to just stop working because the new os came out.
You don't have to upgrade the software if you can't afford to upgrade the hardware.
What other cell phone maker is still providing feature updates that weren't with the device on it's ship date 2 years later?
Should I be upset Nokia because they didn't update my now 6 year old 3650 to work with facebook? I like that apple isn't afraid to move people and it's products to the future. I'm not using floppy disk anymore either.
All you people upset that Apple isn't supporting multitask on your outdated hardware are amazing me. Your 2 year old phone works just fine the way it is now. It's not going to just stop working because the new os came out.
You don't have to upgrade the software if you can't afford to upgrade the hardware.
What other cell phone maker is still providing feature updates that weren't with the device on it's ship date 2 years later?
Should I be upset Nokia because they didn't update my now 6 year old 3650 to work with facebook? I like that apple isn't afraid to move people and it's products to the future. I'm not using floppy disk anymore either.
First off, mail is already being downloaded in the background - that was in iPhone OS from the start. Twitter on the bottom third plus dock - what size screen are you talking about to make this even remotely usable.
Important thing to understand - mobile phone cannot be compared to full fledged computer - no matter what the update to hardware is, it is still years behind. Think about when your PC or Mac last had 512 MB of RAM? On top of this there is a battery issue. I think Apple did not FAIL, it WON - realizing the limitations of hardware Apple is bringing a solution where the battery life can be preserved (that is actually to be tested) and you can enjoy switching between apps.
If so, then maybe Apple shall do the same with our outdated Mac(Book)(/Pro)s: you wanna "upgrade" to SL? Get a new hardware! You want to "update" to 10.6.3? Get a new hardware! If you cannot afford it... well, get a new hardware!