Dude you haven't even tried their mutli-tasking implementations. Haven't you ever heard of the saying: "Don't knock it until you try it?"
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Apple Announces Multitasking in iPhone OS 4.0
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Dude you haven't even tried their mutli-tasking implementations. Haven't you ever heard of the saying: "Don't knock it until you try it?"
Apple is taking 40%, not 60%. That's a better split then most agencies would give you.
Why should I bother trying inferior solution when there are Android phones that offer real multitasking? Those phones can do everything iPhone can and then some. With "Apple multitasking" you will still not be be able to run instant messenger and Safari simultaneously. And this is just one obvious example.
It can do all that, except for the last. Only one app on the screen at once.
The "services" they are talking about are specific "helpers" for specific common background tasks. Multi-tasking is NOT limited to these specific kinds of tasks, however.
Wrong.
Local Notifications are the "jailbreak", so to speak, for more general tasks that aren't covered by the specific services.
Sorry, but I like the control Apple exerts on their products, I prefer long battery life, no porn and for the most part, no objectionable material, I prefer parental controls, quality control of what apps enter the app store for security and privacy reasons, good quality control on their hardware, and a customer service that can communicate and comprehend the english I speak in the country I live in. Thats why I pay a premium for Apple products. If you don't like how Apple manages their products, then go get an ANDROID or PC and enjoy anarchy disguised as freedom. I don't mind constructive criticism when one has all the facts, but whining or making baseless accusations is pointless with no supporting evidence is plain stupid and will reflect on the persons credibility and integrity by making such statements.
So the new OS will bring to your old iPhone dozens, perhaps 100, cool new features--for free!--but not a handful of functions that will work only on the newest phones. That has you so upset you're blathering, and eager to end your contract? For your own sake, invoke an attitude adjustment.
Even Trolls can have a point
This whole iAds thing has me a bit concerned. While we already have some of this on the iPhone (think the adds that pop up on free apps like AIM and the NYTimes reader) how obtrusive will this get? Free apps? Ok, nothing is free, expect some sort of ads. $.99 and $1.99 apps with built in ads? What is this, Sirus/XM? If I'm paying for something, I dont want to be bothered by ads. I'm glad Apple has found another revenue stream, but if this starts looking like some Windows BS I think it will do long term harm to the platform.
This whole iAds thing has me a bit concerned. While we already have some of this on the iPhone (think the adds that pop up on free apps like AIM and the NYTimes reader) how obtrusive will this get? Free apps? Ok, nothing is free, expect some sort of ads. $.99 and $1.99 apps with built in ads? What is this, Sirus/XM? If I'm paying for something, I dont want to be bothered by ads. I'm glad Apple has found another revenue stream, but if this starts looking like some Windows BS I think it will do long term harm to the platform.
You mean real multitasking? Because in OS 4.0 there is no real multitasking. Application may "ask" system service to perform certain common background tasks but the application itself gets suspended.
Ya ok...
Have you ever heard the term "User Experience"? The screen isn't big enough to make an experience like that worth having. And you will be able to get email and social and twitter just fine, there is still push and that is all bundled into the multi-tasking APIs now. It will be instant, and all of that WITHOUT performance or battery loss, is that not good enough for you? Honestly! I'm shocked that the iPhone/Touch is getting iBooks. I figured they would want to keep that an iPad exclusive. This will only add fuel to the "it's a large iPod Touch!" arguments...
Well, I'm loving my large iPod Touch haha
Anyway I can't wait for 4.0! I'm most excited for Game Center!
I wasn't too sure they would do this either, but think about it... Apple just expanded its eBook presence to nearly 100 MILLION devices! Your move Amazon!
There are already many eReader apps on the iPhone. Most people won't want to read on that small of a device and will opt for the iPad still. But it will be nice to have it there for a glance and all synced together!
That is probably my only remaining gripe. Not a huge gripe, but its a bit annoying. It won't be till 5.0 now, that is too big for a point update! Better luck next summer.
How can you run two things at once on a device where the application occupies the entire screen?
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You are acting like we HAVE NO CHOICE AGAINST ADS. And people, are ads THAT BAD in iPhone OS 4.0? Is switching from Flash ads with people dancing at 20 FPS to rich, HTML5 ads really as big as a difference as Apple thinks it is?
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You are acting like we HAVE NO CHOICE AGAINST ADS. And people, are ads THAT BAD in iPhone OS 4.0? Is switching from Flash ads with people dancing at 20 FPS to rich, HTML5 ads really as big as a difference as Apple thinks it is?
It is interesting to me that with the new features in 4.0, the iPad becomes even more compelling as a "real computer." If they do ad some sort of on-board file management/saving, along with the multitasking and background processes, the iPad comes closer to a real computer. I suspect apple won't go much further with the iPad, because it will begin to eat into macbook sales. Also, since the iPad is a much better media viewer and internet browser than the iphone, i wonder if people will ditch their iphones and get less feature filled phones, while using the ipad 3g with it's much cheaper data plan? Just thinkin'
4.0 and multitasking
I am happily running Backgrounder and ProSwitcher on my jailbroken 3GS, daily tapping the power of "true" multitasking and the way Apple should've done it IMHO..
It must be the user's choice what should and should not be running in parallel - not the developers or Apple.. At least it should be configurable from Settings, i.e. the Apple way of doing it or the _expected_.
Still, my right brain arguing for this-is-a-step-in-the-right-direction can't stand the fight with my left one screaming FAIL...
Unified inbox for Mail is great though.. The work for app folders is something Apple will probably do better than any "free" alternative there already is.
I am happily running Backgrounder and ProSwitcher on my jailbroken 3GS, daily tapping the power of "true" multitasking and the way Apple should've done it IMHO..
It must be the user's choice what should and should not be running in parallel - not the developers or Apple.. At least it should be configurable from Settings, i.e. the Apple way of doing it or the _expected_.
Still, my right brain arguing for this-is-a-step-in-the-right-direction can't stand the fight with my left one screaming FAIL...
Unified inbox for Mail is great though.. The work for app folders is something Apple will probably do better than any "free" alternative there already is.
I am really glad I returned my n1 a couple of days ago. This update is going to blow all other phone software out of the water. I also can't wait for the new iPhone hardware. Fingers are crossed for this summer where I will be first in line.
Yeah, just like that enter/return key on your computer keyboard keeps suffering hardware death! Damn Apple, when are they going to come out with a keyboard that detects when I'm done with a paragraph without me having to hit the enter/return key? grrr.... I just know my enter/return key is going to fail any year now!
Mark
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My iPhone 3G continually chugs, sometimes even while scrolling through the apps on the home screen. It only has 128Mb of RAM, and with apps like iStat you can see how little that really is. My iPhone currently has 1Mb free and 13Mb inactive. You telling me I can run multitasking with 14Mb of RAM free (plus all the other new stuff in OS 4.0)? Apple's work around would have to be a miracle.
great. no multi tasking for first gen. phone. i don't want the new phone, but i want to multi-task, demmit. i reeeealy like the metal case. it doesn't seem to affect my reception. it's rare that i drop it but if the case were plastic, it would have cracked/broke by now (a case would hide it and i don't want that, it looks too good). i don't really care about 3g (not available where i live anyways) or gps. video would be nice but i don't want to jailbreak what i've got to get it. wish it had more memory but i can work with that i've got.
i see it happening, though. having to upgrade. gonna cost me more for data plan, too (i'm paying $20 mo).
crap. wonder how long i can hold out.
i see it happening, though. having to upgrade. gonna cost me more for data plan, too (i'm paying $20 mo).
crap. wonder how long i can hold out.
Well, there are many possible solutions: pop ups, splitting the screen etc. It's even more ridiculous for iPad where there is plenty of screen real estate.
Even if only one app is shown on the screen, if other applications were allowed to run, then if you switched from one to another you'd be able to see up-to-date information.
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YOU READ MY THOUGHTS!!!!
ppdix said:BS update... These things and more have been available on Jailbroken iphones for months now... Multitasking, Folders, Search...
This is nothing radical. And, to me, not worth of a full version update label... 3.5 is more like it.
YOU READ MY THOUGHTS!!!!
Are you sure you returned you n1? because your signature says that you have iPhone
Also, keep in mind that at today's presentation nothing was said about ability of new SDK to support higher/different resolution which indicates that the chances of iPhone getting better screen are slim.
What you think of as "nice and simple", and what say my wife would call "nice and simple" are not the same thing. What Apple has done here achieves a lot of good things: Any application can stay running without _any_ battery drain if it doesn't need to do any work in the background. That's good. For apps that need to do work in the background, there are APIs for them to use, and Apple can and will check whether their power use is acceptable. So you will get multi-tasking at very little cost.
What the heck splitting the screen, it's a freak phone. Do the task and move on to the next one. I have an original EDGE iPhone and their multi-tasking implementation if it works the way they presented will solve all my gripes with the phone. I will gladly upgrade to a new phone this summer.