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Anyone have any guesses as to how hot these new MacBook Airs will run? My 13" MacBook Pro absolutely burns my legs in hot weather.

thats why they are not called "laptops" because they get very hot, and are not supposed to be sat in your lap...they are all aluminum, so heat is always going to be there, hence again they are not called laptops...
 
Jobs looked and sounded bad, hope it will not end soon.:(

...but I like the new airs. Problem for me: still no 3G option! Well, tethering is only kludging...
 
11" must have reduced size track pad

This class could become interesting with forthcoming chips.
 
What a joke Apple Australia. I understand to a degree with the actual laptops.. import duties and the like.. but for RAM upgrades? Really? 33% price hike?
Scott
Scott, you need to fly over to the States and pick up a Macbook. With the Aussie dollar 1:1, there's no excuse! I know Aussies who fly over just to go shopping.

But I feel your pain. I never bought anything while I was down under because of the ridiculous prices.
 
My dilemma: Order the 11" MBA with 2GB or 4GB RAM?

Are the RAM chips in those new MBA user upgradeable or are they soldered onto the logic board?
Tech Specs on the MBA indicate that the RAM is "Onboard," so you should spend the extra $100 on the 4GB of RAM upgrade.

The real fun begins when iFixit gets their hands on these - I'll be darn curious to know if the SSD is also soldered, or with some crafty case cracking and the right part, could be upgraded in size.
 
Why are people complaining about Core 2 Duo? It's faster and lower power than Core i3.

Better yet, means we can still have nvidia graphics.

With Core i3 you'd be taking a step backwards in power consumption, speed, and you'd fall backwards down a cliff in terms of graphics performance.

How many times does it have to be said that Core 2 Duo + nvidia graphics is an infinitely better combination than Core i3 and Intel graphics?

The only real complaint about the MacBook Air is the lack of 4GB of RAM standard. That means the REAL starting price point is plus $100.
 
I'll be buying one.

But, unfortunately, I think the real news from this event is something not discussed at all.

My mother died of pancreatic cancer; I know what terminal cancer looks like, and it looks like Steve Jobs does now.

I was shocked at how physically weak he looks and sounds, how diminished his personal energy was, and how he fumbled portions of his presentation, which is very unlike him. The parade of Apple employees presenting was obviously intended to take some of the burden off of him and to get the audience used to seeing other people as the face of Apple.

Steve clearly wants to keep Apple moving forward personally as long as he possibly can. I desperately wish him all the best, but I think the prognosis is not at all good.

This makes me very, very sad.



Nice try. Give that crap intended to impact stock price a rest. Jobs looked great.
 
Not bad. Pretty much the closest Apple will get to a netbook, as well as thinnest.

Agreed. This - not the iPad - is their response to the netbook. The iPad is another animal altogether.

Also, as Jobs kept saying, this is the future of laptops. Because they now have to compete with things like iPhones and iPads, they have to be 'more portable'. Hand in hand with that, they have to be 'more convenient' ('instant on'). That means, for one thing, flash drives are mandatory. The App Store for OSX also helps satisfy the strong desire for convenience.

I have a 17" unibody MBP. It has become, as I knew it would, my 'desktop' computer. In the context of current portable devices - iPhones, iPads, netbooks, etc. - it's a bit absurd to think of a laptop as 'portable' for anything beyond room to room.

I think this trend will kind of cannibalize the market for iMacs, though. if your Air, iPhone or iPod is your portable and your 'laptop' is your desktop, what will happen to iMacs? I suspect that, in order to remain viable, they will (as some here have speculated) run a transparently multiple-OS (OSX/iOS) system with a touchscreen (that folds down to horizontal mode for use as such) and a wireless mouse with a gyroscope (for iOS apps requiring such, but also for OSX apps).

I don't know about you, but I think such a device would be a huge hit.
 
Grading on a Curve

Looks: A+
$$$ Value: F

They really needed to price these things below the MacBook.
For the same cost of the 11" MBA, you can get a 13" MB with almost a double the speed processor, DVD burner, full set of hook ups and better full use battery.

Since your Value grade appears to be based on the relative pricing of the Air and the MacBook, would you give a higher grade, let's say a B, if they raised the price of the MacBook?
 
GST, and taking into account future currency fluctuations. Apple has always pegged most products at 30% more than the outright price listed on the US store. But with this it's actually 20%, which is a step in the right direction.

EDIT: the import duty is 5% as well. Brings it to roughly 15%. Which is just below the 20% mark. If the currency moves south again, then Apple will be losing out.

There's also US state sales taxes that aren't shown on the US Apple Store that you need to factor in. So the AU pricing really isn't that bad, all things considered.
 
When I upgrade in 2012 late I really hope then the 11.6" Model will have a 2.6GHz NEW Processor and 512GB SSD + Storage. I'm happy after that!
 
I was going to buy the 11" but no SD-card reader and only 5 hours of battery time = no sale.
 
2GB of RAM is still plenty for most users. Open your activity monitor sometime. Unless you're doing video or have a huge Photoshop file open you're not going to need more RAM than that. Most people who buy the base Air are going to use it as a internet portal/email/photo/music machine. If that changes you can upgrade. Simple.

It's amazing how many people still think having more RAM magically makes your computer "go faster." It's all relative to how you use the machine. If all you are doing is retouching an iPhoto or surfing in Safari having 4GB of RAM won't make a lick of difference.
 
I wonder how many people will go for the 13" MacBook Pro now... Cheaper and better
That's possibly what apple wants. It's a great PC for people on the go with fairly low processing needs, witch isn't quite represented by people in the MR forum and is probably a very large amount of apple's market share.

I think the 13" MBP was the best selling computer for apple simply because people wanted a mac laptop and thought they might as well get it in aluminium for a small premium over the MB, not because it's faster. I think apple hopes to drive the people towards the MBA hence "the next generation of macbooks"
 
form/function

Very cool laptops, but I'm thinking they valued a little bit too much form over function. I'd be perfectly happy to have the Air taper to .22 inches instead of .11 to accommodate larger batteries and a faster CPU.
 
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