but then they couldn't market it as first CPU with 3nm process
3nm has been a disappointment for both iPhone and Macs so far
no idea why
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Apple Announces New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With M3 Series Chips
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3nm has been a disappointment for both iPhone and Macs so far
no idea why
yep
M3 Pro is basically designed as an upsell for M3 Max chips
disappointing but oh well
So the they’ve changed the screen as well? 1000nit sdr brightness or are they just removing some limit on the same panel? I’ve wondered if doing the brightness software mod would damage my M1 Pro 14” it or not.
”Scary Fast” and “Scary Expensive” should have been the by line. Basically the same machines with faster silicon and a black option. Am I really understanding this correctly? My wife and I nearly fell off our chairs laughing when we watched Apple enthuse over the new color option. It was comical the amount of screen time and enthusiasm given to a new color. I am sorry, but although these are very powerful machines they are not something I can get excited about and my wife and I are not running into serious performance issues with our M1 Pro and M1 Max 16” machines. If you are on a 2019 Intel machine these are a no brainer to consider, maybe, although I would look at the previous generation M1 and M2 based machines for much much better value.
This event seemed rushed and ill considered. The new 3 nm technology in the M3 series of chips is groundbreaking but we need more than this for a new machine. Plus they fluffed the much needed peripheral upgrades (mouse design is ludicrous and they need to replace the lightening cables) and iMac spec bump. Overall an odd announcement and lacking anything really exciting unfortunately. I know the engineers working on the M3 must be annoyed by such comments but new laptops and desktops need more than 'just be faster than before', for the customer to be enthused to upgrade and go through the pain of moving into a new machine while realizing their old 2 or 3 year old machine is worth virtually nothing in part exchange.
This event seemed rushed and ill considered. The new 3 nm technology in the M3 series of chips is groundbreaking but we need more than this for a new machine. Plus they fluffed the much needed peripheral upgrades (mouse design is ludicrous and they need to replace the lightening cables) and iMac spec bump. Overall an odd announcement and lacking anything really exciting unfortunately. I know the engineers working on the M3 must be annoyed by such comments but new laptops and desktops need more than 'just be faster than before', for the customer to be enthused to upgrade and go through the pain of moving into a new machine while realizing their old 2 or 3 year old machine is worth virtually nothing in part exchange.
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This thread is made up of some of the biggest whiners I have ever read. I wish we go back to the days when Apple was more niche and we had less of these complainers.
Your own posts sound a lot like whining/complaining to me. 😂
I honestly rather get the base M chips for the power efficiency, but the low maximum memory and the number of ports (and how they're all on one side) made them undesirable.
I'm disappointed no ones's used the line "Blackbook's back, alright"
M2 Pro Macbook Pro and M2 Pro Mac mini owner. Zero concern about the release of the M3. I buy computers based on my workflow, not on benchmarks.
Depends on how long you keep your devices. M3 means at least one more year of macOS support.
I am really tired of hearing about these mythical 12GB RAM increments people thought was coming - as if they knew what Apple was cooking up. Many of you were all wrong.
Quit whining about 8GB RAM - IT IS the Apple way, and YOU WILL help solidify their $3 Trillion worth by purchasing RAM upgrades - just as I did with my 16GB M2 MBA.
And, 18GB is just weird Apple - no one saw that one coming.
TRUTH.
[EDIT: Truth hurts - and obviously you know it, as evidenced by every dislike you give me.]
Quit whining about 8GB RAM - IT IS the Apple way, and YOU WILL help solidify their $3 Trillion worth by purchasing RAM upgrades - just as I did with my 16GB M2 MBA.
And, 18GB is just weird Apple - no one saw that one coming.
TRUTH.
[EDIT: Truth hurts - and obviously you know it, as evidenced by every dislike you give me.]
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not even for those ... the only thing that would make me think about upgrading is the said native multiple external display support
SSD speed cut in half isn't really appealing to me either
... I will happily use the M1 air until it dies or some employer handles me a MB Pro ...
Is SSD speed going to be reduced as well on all M3 models?
I would love to know if anyone has an actual speed number.
It's a testament to how much I love the M series chips, because these M3's are out, they are clearly faster than my M1 Max, but the chip is so powerful I suffer no lack in my workflows, and don't really feel the need to update. In days of old, I'd break out into a fever and do all types of mental gymnastics to be able to upgrade. I just don't feel the need for a while yet. For all you M3 buyers, I hope you enjoy them! The MBP lineup is Apple's best Mac yet IMO.
last thing I'd expect from Apple is to go back to "full speed" SSD config for base models...
the machines are getting worse...
as someone wrote before ... 8GB RAM was the base for 2011 MPB ... and it supported more than one external display natively ... same with the Air actually for the displaything
... having a 2000€ "Pro" laptop with 8GB RAM and one external display support in 2023 is just an abomination
It was extremely telling how many times they emphasized how much faster these new chips were compared to the OLD INTEL chips - definitely a subtle nudge that soon the Intel Macs will no longer be supported in macOS.
Finally an upgrade to my 2020 Intel MBA - it's struggling under daily workloads at this point, and forget about doing any meaningful video editing (which has returned to my world for the first time in a decade). Grateful to the forums here regarding some of the finer details on the M3 Max chips: I configured a "blackbook" MBP model with the high-end M3 Max CPU and cut back on RAM (don't really need 96GB or 128GB). Should be "enough" for the foreseeable future - If I got almost 4 years out of the MBA, this one will hopefully take me to 2030 before it times out.
Honestly, Apple has lost me with regards to their specs at this point, though this isn't specifically M3 related.
I'm pretty geeky but not super tech spec-y. I no longer know too much about what the differences between how many cores for GPU and cores for CPU really mean in practical terms. GB for RAM and GB for SSD I get. But cores?
I don't think I'm the typical everyday person, but certainly not as techy as most of you on Macrumors would be. I see 8 cores vs. 16 cores and I'm like, "So? What does that mean?"
I'm looking at comparing the M3 vs. M3 Pro and looking at cores and am not making sense of this. The only thing I know is if I were to upgrade (which I won't) definitely don't want 8gb RAM and I know 512GB SSD is too small. Will want something above 8GB RAM and at least 1TB SSD.
I'm pretty geeky but not super tech spec-y. I no longer know too much about what the differences between how many cores for GPU and cores for CPU really mean in practical terms. GB for RAM and GB for SSD I get. But cores?
I don't think I'm the typical everyday person, but certainly not as techy as most of you on Macrumors would be. I see 8 cores vs. 16 cores and I'm like, "So? What does that mean?"
I'm looking at comparing the M3 vs. M3 Pro and looking at cores and am not making sense of this. The only thing I know is if I were to upgrade (which I won't) definitely don't want 8gb RAM and I know 512GB SSD is too small. Will want something above 8GB RAM and at least 1TB SSD.
Well, if you give a 2000 euro "Pro" machine 8GB of ram (which was already standard in the base MBP from 2014!), support for only 1 external screen, and upgrades cost at least 4 times as much as you would pay as a consumer for the part (SSD or Ram) itself, people will be complaining. But yes, let's just cheer Apple on. With the limited external screen support and 8GB starting ram, for which "pro" is this MBP?
I have an M1 and no real reason to upgrade but am considering it. Too bad they dropped Space Grey as I prefer it to Black or Silver.
One who doesn't need 2 external screens, wants HDMI/SD Card built in and an M3 chip with a better display?
I'm guessing the M2 13 MBP just didn't sell enough so they decided to dump it and use the base M3 in a 14 inch to replace it. My guess is many potential 13" MBP buyers will just buy the new M3 MBP; which now is a better deal than in the old 13" MBA/MBP since it now has the M3 instead of M2.