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£359 and £439 in comparison to $399 and $499 how is that fair???

How about €489 and €589 while the Euro is still 10% more worth than the dollar? This annoys me so much! When the Euro was strong they never lowered their prices, but now the Euro fell a bit in worth and they increased the prices right away. There is no reason why we should pay 20% more than the Americans for a phone with an old design that has no flagship model specs as well. Thanks Tim. I guess I am going for a way too large 4.7 inch iPhone 7 this fall... :(
 
Totally agree!

The only thing I think they should have done is squeezed 32gb into the $399 for future considerations.

I'll bet the SE is around "as is" for 2-3 years now and that 16, which is already a problem for some, becomes even more problematic down the road as so many people buy "the cheapest one they can get" and then end up with so many frustrating storage issues.
Changing the storage offered is something they can do at any moment. I think there is a chance that the iPhone 7 starts at 32 GB. Then in a year from now they could increase the minimum to 32 GB in the SE. Note that they added 8 GB versions to the 3Gs, 4, 4s and 5c (which were all originally released with 16 GB minimum) when these models had moved to the bottom of the lineup. They only stopped this practice with the 5s.
 
No 128GB.

I find the death of Apple painful to watch. All good things come to an end, I guess. I'm grateful to Steve Jobs and all who worked with him for his amazing products.

I find Apple's imminent death greatly overstated ;)
Surprised the stock price hasn't dropped more.

Hey Siri, what about "one more thing" ? - Answer: "Interesting question..."

I'm hanging on to all my ATV3, iPad Mini2+cell, Air 2, MacMini'14, MBA13 2013 with a decent keyboard. Probably my last Apple products.
 
Did you expect it in the SE at all? I thought it would at the very least. It's not like first gen Touch ID was crap. It's still very usable today.

Yes I absolutely expected the new iPhone SE would have the 2nd gen Touch ID. I am very surprised and disappointed it doesn't. The 1st gen Touch ID is still useable and works just fine but Touch ID 2.0 is better.
 
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No 128GB.

I find the death of Apple painful to watch. All good things come to an end, I guess. I'm grateful to Steve Jobs and all who worked with him for his amazing products.

I find Apple's imminent death greatly overstated ;)
Surprised the stock price hasn't dropped more.

Hey Siri, what about "one more thing" ? - Answer: "Interesting question..."

I'm hanging on to all my ATV3, iPad Mini2+cell, Air 2, MacMini'14, MBA13 2013 with a decent keyboard. Probably my last Apple products.
 
Totally agree!

The only thing I think they should have done is squeezed 32gb into the $399 for future considerations.

I'll bet the SE is around "as is" for 2-3 years now and that 16, which is already a problem for some, becomes even more problematic down the road as so many people buy "the cheapest one they can get" and then end up with so many frustrating storage issues.
Changing the storage offered is something they can do at any moment. I think there is a chance that the iPhone 7 starts at 32 GB. Then in a year from now they could increase the minimum to 32 GB in the SE. Note that they added 8 GB versions to the 3Gs, 4, 4s and 5c (which were all originally released with 16 GB minimum) when these models had moved to the bottom of the lineup. They only stopped this practice with the 5s.
 
Yeah they did have a top tier phone at this price, it was the original iphone. Started at $599 and bombed big time, then a price cut to $399 a few months later. I picked up 2 of them at that price. Then they got wise and started selling them on contract for $199. Until Apple got greedy then the prices quietly went up to $650
I seem to recall the original phone price drop being $450. It's been ten years so my memory may be off.

I looked it up and you're right. Anyway, the point I was making is that there's actually great value at $400 for this device, and that's even comparing to the competition and not just to Apple themselves. Even the $500 64gb device is cheaper than any other phone they sell (unless other phones get price drops).
 
Of course. That's how life works. Not everyone will be satisfied. There are some "legitimate concerns" out there, but a lot of people complain because they're demanding too much. Out of 10, I will give Apple a 7.5/10 for this 5S to SE upgrade.
Although really, if you were about to buy a 5S, and suddenly this is available - only 7.5/10?
 
Looks really great, so long as it's 2GB of RAM (which it *should* be with an A9, unless they pulled a tricky one on us... i.e.: special version of the A9 or something). Starting at 16GB storage is plain silly, but I guess they'd really have pissed 6s folks off if they'd started at 32GB.



In other words... NO BIG DEAL. :) But, I'm not sure why you're comparing it to the Plus in the first place.



At least for me, it's about what Apple does to their UX reputation, not about what *I WANT*. I'll just buy the 64GB version. The problem is the newbies who go to the phone store and buy the base model (that's pushed and advertised constantly, as that's the price they have in their head), assuming that with a premium phone like an iPhone, even the base model should be OK. Then, after a few months, they find they are struggling with storage.

The point being, the amount Apple gains in up-sells (short term) isn't worth the potential bad user experience (long term).
I think the 32 Gb will be the new base starting from the next generation. iPad are opening the way.
 
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Yes I absolutely expected the new iPhone SE would have the 2nd gen Touch ID. I am very surprised and disappointed it doesn't.

It's a bummer, but shouldn't be a make or break in reality, so an upgraded 5S is all what the 4" form factor fans wanted. They got the best mobile processor, best Apple camera, best Apple smartphone design, and some cool software features.
 
day 1 preorder, the 6s is going on sale. The battery life! I honestly am just hoping to break even selling my 64gb 6s.
 
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Although really, if you were about to buy a 5S, and suddenly this is available - only 7.5/10?

I am not into the 5S/SE market, so doesn't matter to me. When I say 7.5/10, I compare it to what the 6S has and the SE has. Slight and important differences. Not to mention, a 640p display is way too low resolution.
 
wish they would have fixed those bezels - they would drive me nuts. hopefully this starts a trend back to smaller phones. Still alarming that Apple just re-hashed an old design.
 
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If it has 2GB RAM i will change my iPhone 6S to this one.

I think it will be but yes, waiting on confirmation. I'm on the Apple Upgrade plan w/ my 6S so figuring out if I should just wait or if I should sell the 6S and get the SE on release. the 128gb 6S should still be able to get a really good price around $600/$650, right?
 
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