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That's the sort of thing I mean. Sounds good on paper. In reality a lot of faffing is involved.

I'm sitting here in the real world on a Hackintosh writing this reply. And at the same time via the magic of FireWire: Pandora is selecting songs for me to listen to and Logic Express is running so I can play along, using {whatever} software instrument, whenever I feel inclined to do so. All of it playing back via a PreSonus Firebox using Firewire connectivity along with MIDI connectivity.

Again: Yes. Firewire works fine.
 
I'm sitting here in the real world on a Hackintosh writing this reply. And at the same time via the magic of FireWire: ...
....Again: Yes. Firewire works fine.
It not whether Firewire works on your machine, it's whether everything works without a lot of faffing about.
I want to buy a laptop that fits my needs, add OSX and start working. I do not want to spend ages researching what components are supported, what components are in laptop and load OSX only to discover wireless doesn't work as the machine specs have changed slightly.
 
It not whether Firewire works on your machine, it's whether everything works without a lot of faffing about.
I want to buy a laptop that fits my needs, add OSX and start working. I do not want to spend ages researching what components are supported, what components are in laptop and load OSX only to discover wireless doesn't work as the machine specs have changed slightly.

Google "hackintosh compatible laptops" or something like that. Research these days aint exactly hard.
 
Firstly i dont understand why you say PC's are cheaper!
Comparing a Vaio or even Dell the price is same or even more for Vaio (atleast in Sweden)

A dell 1330 cost about 12000sek which is the same as a Macbook .

Secondly you can not compare a brand like Apple with a PC!
I have said this before and i say it again, this is like comparing a Ferrari with a BMW. Why is Ferrari more expensive? Why do people pay for it?

Personally i would love it if Apple cut the price of the MB/MBP but if i was Steve i would not do it neither! Apple has a certain class like Ferrari in the computer scene and they make people more for their product.

I actually really love the aluminum case and have put a order for a MB (was choosing between MB and Dell 1330) and cant wait until its here :)

And lastly to all US residents, you are do damn lucky, price in Sweden is like twice what you pay so please please dont complain :) Make me wanna cry every time comparing your price to what i have to pay,
 
Im sold!

well I finally got to see one :)
I love it. nice piece of work, great job Apple!
we ordered one a week ago so itll be awhile before I can really test it with AvidMC, Adobe and FCS apps.
 
Due to the fact that this USB capture device does some processing/compressing (read: munting) of the video signal.
 
Saw the new machines tonight in the Apple Store.

I was dead set on buying a MB 2.4GHz/4GB but now I've seen them I'm not going to and I'm sticking with my two year old Blackbook.

The machines are ok but the screen is poor (dim unlss straight on - vertically), the gloss is very gloss (but ok, I could live with it), no realworld perfromance increase, but the nail in the coffin is no FireWire for my audio interface.

I had planned on working around that with a usb2 interface but it's just not worth it.

I wonder if Apple will shift many of these. I know they won't to audio/video people but how much of a niche market is that?
 
I was set on a MB 2.4 as well but it seemed the viewing angle and overall screen/image quality was noticeably nicer on the MBP's, so went w/ the base MBP instead.

Saw the new machines tonight in the Apple Store.

I was dead set on buying a MB 2.4GHz/4GB but now I've seen them I'm not going to and I'm sticking with my two year old Blackbook.

The machines are ok but the screen is poor (dim unlss straight on - vertically), the gloss is very gloss (but ok, I could live with it), no realworld perfromance increase, but the nail in the coffin is no FireWire for my audio interface.

I had planned on working around that with a usb2 interface but it's just not worth it.

I wonder if Apple will shift many of these. I know they won't to audio/video people but how much of a niche market is that?
 
Saw the new machines tonight in the Apple Store.

I was dead set on buying a MB 2.4GHz/4GB but now I've seen them I'm not going to and I'm sticking with my two year old Blackbook.

The machines are ok but the screen is poor (dim unlss straight on - vertically), the gloss is very gloss (but ok, I could live with it), no realworld perfromance increase, but the nail in the coffin is no FireWire for my audio interface.

I had planned on working around that with a usb2 interface but it's just not worth it.

I wonder if Apple will shift many of these. I know they won't to audio/video people but how much of a niche market is that?
Judging by how confident they sounded yesterday I guess they will and they said interest in the new machines is already high, I don't believe all these complaints will have much affect on how many machines they sell, most people aren't really worried about that.
 
I don't believe all these complaints will have much affect on how many machines they sell, most people aren't really worried about that.

I know what you're saying but that also assumes no recession and people being careful with money. (There's a reason these £250 EEE style machines are stupidly popular at the moment).

We'll see. I think we might see Apple react to this...

Maybe that's just wishful thinking. The MB is certainly not worth £1150 when most PCs of similar specs are literally half the cost.
 
I know what you're saying but that also assumes no recession and people being careful with money. (There's a reason these £250 EEE style machines are stupidly popular at the moment).

We'll see. I think we might see Apple react to this...

Maybe that's just wishful thinking. The MB is certainly not worth £1150 when most PCs of similar specs are literally half the cost.
Recession, we've been hearing about recessions for more than a year now, but still Apple's growth is still growing and they are selling more Macs now than ever, Apple feels confident in their current lineup and about the overall company and I feel they are right.
 
Recession, we've been hearing about recessions for more than a year now, but still Apple's growth is still growing and they are selling more Macs now than ever, Apple feels confident in their current lineup and about the overall company and I feel they are right.

Good luck to them. However analysts have been warning about their approach in the current financial circumstances. This recession will bite eventually.

They're doing well because they have a nice monopoly in the market for OSs that work. I'm locked in to Apple for that reason but there's only so far you can push that loyalty.

We'll see, I'm not convinced either way but it makes for interesting watching.

Meanwhile that £1150 stays in my bank account waiting for the value to catch up with the hardware. Fingers crossed eh?
 
Where did you find the Geekbench scores? I guess that would surprise me. The CPU is the same speed, but I would think the faster bus and memory speeds would make a noticeable difference.

Some users of the new laptops had posted their Geekbench scores here at MacRumors a few days back.

Edit: Found something from Geekbench (Primate Labs Blog): MacBook and MacBook Pro Performance (October 2008)
 
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