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Apple Announces New Mac Pros With Up to 12 Cores, SSD Options

ArcaneDevice said:
I bet you wouldn't be saying that if the iPhone, iPod or iMac still looked like their first-gen design.

The cheese-grater has got to go. And those handles can go to. They don't need to be the size of serving platters to enable someone to move it.
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I think those handles are important for air flow. I used to have an HP dual Xeon workstation and it was crazy-loud from the fans keeping it cool. The MacPro is the only pro workstation I've seen that doesn't sound like its got a hurricane going on inside.
 
"with over a billion possible configurations, our customers can create exactly the system they want."

I'll take a slice of Blu-Ray and a Quadro FX 3800 thanks!
 
Full of Win said:
No case redesign, no eSATA, no case redesign and no case redesign. Geez, the case is 7 YEARS OLD. When it first shipped, the monitor options were the white/color plastic and Steve Jobs was slightly obese.

:mad:
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1. What case design are you expecting? It does the job which it is required to do (provide the best cooling possible). You don't buy a Mac Pro for how it looks, you buy it because it has a job to do. The fact it looks fantastic after 7 years is a testament to the guy who designed it in the first place!

2. eSATA, after having the displeasure of using this I really hope it never rears it's ugly head. The connector is awful and keeps falling out (I've had three devices with it now, all hopeless) Fw800/USB 3 is the way forward.

Jees, some people are never happy. :rolleyes:
 
I haven't seen anyone mention that the quad core can be BTO with a six core chip, I wonder what the pricing is for that??
 
EmbraceNext said:
Done.

With SATA 6gb and USB 3.0 out, why couldn't they have included that? So we are going to have to wait another 450 days for USB 3? I know there isn't a lot out that supports USB 3 now but in a few months there will be.
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USB 3 support has been a few months away for a couple of years.
 
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KnightWRX said:
It's not just a computer thing. Look at the total noobs that can barely run a mile at 3 mph without getting worn out, yet they're wearing top of the line running apparel with 300$ shoes. All the while, the lone runner with 10$ jogging pants and a Wal-mart t-shirt and 20$ shoes on the other side of the road is on his 10th mile that morning and he's keeping a 6.5 mph pace.
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I'll remember this the next time someone here tells me they need new shoes.
 
Man, my video processing plugins barely even use two full cores of my 2.8 Ghz 8-core from 2 years ago...so what would 12 do...nothing! Until all the video plugin filter providers get off their butts and update their code to support multiple cores more efficiently...buying these high end machines is pi$$ing in the wind. Only compressor and bitvice really use all the power of your machine for very specific uses.

It kills me when I use a plugin like ultimatte advantedge for green screen and 74 minutes of video takes a few days to render, I check Activity Monitor and its barely 200%...that pisses me off!
 
Anuba said:
Right, so... creative professionals in the graphics and video business don't (or at least shouldn't) care about aesthetics. That's a new one.
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They shouldn't care about aesthetics for items that sit under the desk unseen.

And they shouldn't care about aesthetics over functionality, especially for a desktop unit.

ArcaneDevice said:
If you want the design of the Pro to stay exactly the same because it's so perfect, then why not dial it back to the first iteration which had one USB port on the front and two on the back, one optical drive, two drive racks and heatsink the size of a toaster.
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I think you're misunderstanding. Nobody wants things like ports to stay the same, the point is that it's fine for the basic external case design to stay the same. Which makes perfect sense, money spent changing the aesthetics of something you never look at is money wasted.

Plus, the "New case design!" whinges would probably be taken more seriously if they were less vague and instead made a specific complaint about what is wrong with the current case and what would improve it. So far the only specific I've heard is "smaller handles", otherwise it just sounds like change for its own sake.

KnightWRX said:
Actually, I've seen quite the contrary. The real pros don't need the latest and greatest, it's usually the amateurs that fork over wads of cash in order to make themselves look better.
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Probably depends on what apps are being run. I know plenty of pros who work fast enough that they are often waiting on the machine - having faster hardware means they get more work done in less time, which I'd say justifies buying the faster machine.

Obviously if you're working on something where the machine isn't slowing you down, stick with the slower/older/cheaper machine.
 
I really don't understand people complaining about the case. I'd still take the Mac Pro over any case design I see out in the PC world. It still looks good. It still provides excellent cooling for the components inside it. Why change it? Just because?

Trying to decide where in the new Mac Pro lineup I fall for a new HD editing machine. Not sure if the 12-core machines are worth it or not, except for when I'm doing a lot of heavy compression duties.

Hmmm...
 
PeterQVenkman said:
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Making the switch to Windows 7 is going to be easy.
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fugly.......... truly no design sense........

and windoze? you enjoy son!

yuk! :eek:
 
KnightWRX said:
Actually, I've seen quite the contrary. The real pros don't need the latest and greatest, it's usually the amateurs that fork over wads of cash in order to make themselves look better.

It's not just a computer thing. Look at the total noobs that can barely run a mile at 3 mph without getting worn out, yet they're wearing top of the line running apparel with 300$ shoes. All the while, the lone runner with 10$ jogging pants and a Wal-mart t-shirt and 20$ shoes on the other side of the road is on his 10th mile that morning and he's keeping a 6.5 mph pace.
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Yeah, that is what i was getting at. the system that they use does not determine if they are a Pro or a amateur, The final product does.
 
mousy mousy.

I see the magic mouse now shipped with the mac pro.
Does this mean the bluetooth actually works now?;)
 
bill001 said:
Man, my video processing plugins barely even use two full cores of my 2.8 Ghz 8-core from 2 years ago...so what would 12 do...nothing! Until all the video plugin filter providers get off their butts and update their code to support multiple cores more efficiently...buying these high end machines is pi$$ing in the wind. Only compressor and bitvice really use all the power of your machine for very specific uses.

It kills me when I use a plugin like ultimatte advantedge for green screen and 74 minutes of video takes a few days to render, I check Activity Monitor and its barely 200%...that pisses me off!
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Well, individual applications may not hog all 12 cores but the system balances the load between applications. I don't know about you but I was never a fan of unresponsive computers using all available power for a single task... that's what made the arrival of multicore machines such a relief in the first place. No more "mmmuuuuuugggggghhhh sorry can't be bothered with your mouse clicks right now, come back in 15 minutes, aaarrrrrrghhhh..."
 
franswa za said:
fugly.......... truly no design sense........

and windoze? you enjoy son!

yuk! :eek:
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I'm sure the hidden under the desk aesthetics of the Mac Pro will be appreciated over 6 cores, 12 threads and a GTX 470.

xBerserker said:
My guess ... $2799? Wonder if it will be worth the jump from 4 to 6 ..
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It's a big leap from $284/296 to the ~$999 asked for a single socket Gulftown.
 
CrAkD said:
You would think that us as apple fans would learn by now. Everytime there is an update to any of their products tons of people whine because apple didn't include brand new tech in them. But yet we still buy them. We should know by now apple won't add a new tech until it is fully matured and is standard in every pc, phone, etc. And even then they won't bend (bluray anyone?) so I dunno why it's so surprising that they didn't include USB3.0 and fw1600. It's rare to even find a hard drive or something that supports it. If it does it's much more expensive then the avg usb2.0 HD.
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You would think an "Apple fan" would realize how almost everything you just wrote is wrong.

Sure, if you have only been using a Mac since the iPhone you might think that but there was a time when Apple were adding new hardware that had just dropped out of R&D into almost every release.

USB, FireWire, Altivec, SCSI, Zip, DVD-RAM, ADC, Gigabit ethernet and a lot more. Apple desktops used to be always ahead of the curve and manufacturers had no problem providing peripherals for them.
 
milo said:
I think you're misunderstanding. Nobody wants things like ports to stay the same, the point is that it's fine for the basic external case design to stay the same. Which makes perfect sense, money spent changing the aesthetics of something you never look at is money wasted.
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So where's the SD slot?

Every other Mac now has it. What's the excuse here?
 
Anuba said:
Well, individual applications may not hog all 12 cores but the system balances the load between applications. I don't know about you but I was never a fan of unresponsive computers using all available power for a single task... that's what made the arrival of multicore machines such a relief in the first place. No more "mmmuuuuuugggggghhhh sorry can't be bothered with your mouse clicks right now, come back in 15 minutes, aaarrrrrrghhhh..."
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Yes, perhaps...but while its rendering slowly I can't edit anything else in the meantime. So make it take up all but one, or have settings to tell it how much system resources to allocate just like compressor asks for how many instances (though that has never seemed to work right for me). My real point is just that most software is still way behind on this multi-core thing, so benefits aren't necessarily there yet until other neglected aspects catch up...
 
the.omnibus said:
I'm a little disappointed the low end Mac Pro didn't really get that great of a refresh. I guess I wanted the low end to have six cores @ $2499 and the high end to have 8 @3499 with a BTO option of 12 cores. That would have been a much better value.
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the six core is retail about $1400 ... was never gonna happen
 
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