My MacBook Pro does everything I need it to. It just doesn't do it fast enough. All the skills in the world (beyond basic render optimizations which you should do anyway) won't make Mental Ray render faster on your laptop.
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Apple Announces New Mac Pros With Up to 12 Cores, SSD Options
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My MacBook Pro does everything I need it to. It just doesn't do it fast enough. All the skills in the world (beyond basic render optimizations which you should do anyway) won't make Mental Ray render faster on your laptop.
Please give it up!!! Does the Xeon say i7 on it? Well does it? NO. Can you add ECC support to an i7? NO. So you PAY for that. Do you pay the same money for a Xeon in a PC as you do a Mac? Yes.
Apple isn't pricing anyone out, you just think that. We all know the iMac is better value then the base core Mac Pro, you buy a base Pro for the expansion or ECC, that's it. Your argument is totally flawed.
While I think these need more ram slots, it's hard to fault Apple for not having 40 to 80 of them. Like you'd really spend the cost of a house on ram anyway if it were a possibility.
People will stop doing it when the CPU's stop running the same apps (and sometimes faster in the case of the i7). People couldn't care less which "class" a cpu is, they have an app to run and want the best performance for the price.
I really have to wonder if Apple isn't intentionally trying to make these unappealing to try and push people to switch to iMac. Personally, I went osx86 after apple drove me away with the last MP "upgrade".
Way overpriced for the specs ....
and this comes from a man who has bought (and loved) Macs his entire life
I like certain aspects of the Macs (build quality, looks, stability of OS, etc.) but this in no way justifies the price premium on these machines.
and this comes from a man who has bought (and loved) Macs his entire life
I like certain aspects of the Macs (build quality, looks, stability of OS, etc.) but this in no way justifies the price premium on these machines.
I own a PowerMac G5 Dual Core 2.0 at home and use a PowerMac G5 Dual Processor 1.8 at work. Don't tell me about "people who use them"....
And are you guys saying that if you had a 1993 Chevrolet Corvette that you would be completely happy if GM never changed the exterior???
Are you guys saying that if you bought a house that was built in 1969 and had all the original cabinets and fixtures from that time period in the kitchen that you would update your kitchen to look like... 1969???
Changing the exterior gets the blood pumping again, gets people excited about a product. Does any other manufacturer of products keep the exact same design of something forever? NO! Hell, Apple used to bring out a redesigned G4 almost every year back in the day.
The current case is a mammoth beast. It doesn't have to be in today's age of technical advances.
Buy better batteries.My Magic Mouse makes it a month before needing battery replacement.
But you pay 4x the money for 'em, so...?
We will stop comparing Apple's "PRO" computers with PC desktops when Apple decides to add some PRO class components to go with that server grade processor.
For all intensive purposes, this is a consumer grade computer that is completely overpriced.
Do you guys think that ATi 5870 will fit and work on a 08 Mac Pro because I want to use the 27" LED without adapters, but I heard rumours that Nvidia might be coming out with a 480 GTX Mac Edition, which is better?
Any particular reason why you chose the enormous full-tower model 7500 with 7 card slots and up to 7 drive bays and 12 RAM slots? That's a bit like comparing an SUV (the Mac Pro) with a Petebilt truck (the T7500).
Try the T3500 instead. I did that last year and I can't imagine that prices have changed to the Mac's advantage.
It came out to 33,016 SEK for the Mac Pro and 22,836 SEK for the T3500.
Or, in dollars:
Mac Pro = $3997
T3500 = $2764
See my post above... I think that and use them in both aspects of my life.
7 years IS too long.
this is seriously awesome.
in more that cool piece of hardware.
it is a huge shout out to the high end market that Apple still cares about them and that they are not stuck on iGadgets
in more that cool piece of hardware.
it is a huge shout out to the high end market that Apple still cares about them and that they are not stuck on iGadgets
It was a rhetorical question. But, considering that a) there are virtually no peripherals out that support USB3 and even more so the new FireWire, and B) USB3, FW, and SATA3 are not supported natively by the 5520 chipset, seriously expecting them to be a part of this gen would be very wishful thinking at best.
Not here it doesn't. Getting the work out on time and the invoices paid calms the blood pressure, no matter what the case looks like. If it's a practical case then even better.
I realize its not a "professional" machine. I'd classify it in the "prosumer" category. And I'm also not referring to internal storage. I'm talking computing power. I'm a 2D/3D graphic designer and only need maybe up to 2GB of internal storage. 16GB max RAM seems sufficient enough to run CS5 apps and Cinema4D.
In terms of expandability, I'm not in need of adding additional drives or cards. I utilize external drives for backup purposes. Therefore, the iMac seems like an affordable option.
You keep banning on like it's some exclusive thing to Apple, yet fail to see a Xeon is in a PC workstation the same as a Mac. Yet when it comes to PC's apparently you can only buy the i7? You totally fail to understand the Mac Pro's market. You all think the CPU price difference between Core i series and Xeons is some how Apples fault.
I need to stop commenting know otherwise your all going to drag me down to your levels and beat with experience.............
Just want to say I'm a little disappointed. I'm sure this Mac Pro will be rock solid, but I would have liked it to be more future proof with USB 3.0 and FireWire 1600 or 3200. I've waited about a year for this moment and all that they give us are speed bumps (which is a given) and built in 802.11n and Bluetooth. I would have been better off buying one of the previous models (which are still the current ones I guess) and continuing on with my life rather than putting myself through the agony of having a 2005 Power Mac G5 and not being able to upgrade to Snow Leopard or use Intel-only apps...
Oh I forgot about the Magic Trackpad. I guess that makes it all worth it in the end then...
Oh I forgot about the Magic Trackpad. I guess that makes it all worth it in the end then...
to all the people whining about the case design:
if you really need a mac pro, if you're that kind of a user, the last thing you'd be complaining about is the case design. who the hell cares, anyway?
for the heavy video lifting I do and the photo work I do and the audio work I do, I can think of other things to complain about, but I could care less about the case. it's functional, easy-to-access and proven.
WHAT YOU CREATE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
complain about the video card, the I/O configuration, the price, whatever, but the case design really is a non-issue for pros. actually, I like that it matches my older machines, but that's minor.
apple finally delivered a new pro machine after what seemed like forever. it seems like a decent-enough machine. I'm still good with my 2.93 Xeon rigs, but I'll get a new Pro when I need one.
shut up and make something.
if you really need a mac pro, if you're that kind of a user, the last thing you'd be complaining about is the case design. who the hell cares, anyway?
for the heavy video lifting I do and the photo work I do and the audio work I do, I can think of other things to complain about, but I could care less about the case. it's functional, easy-to-access and proven.
WHAT YOU CREATE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
complain about the video card, the I/O configuration, the price, whatever, but the case design really is a non-issue for pros. actually, I like that it matches my older machines, but that's minor.
apple finally delivered a new pro machine after what seemed like forever. it seems like a decent-enough machine. I'm still good with my 2.93 Xeon rigs, but I'll get a new Pro when I need one.
shut up and make something.
Well, then there is probably no reason for you to get a Mac Pro. But for me it is the only option.
The 12-core has only been announced, it hasn't been released.
The updated iMac is available, and so is the Magic Trackpad, but the rest of the stuff they announced today (new Mac Pro configs + 27" LED display) isn't available yet.
My mistake. In that case, you just need to get your priorities straight.
I just think its funny the sheer amount of people who assume that the people complaining aren't doing it for valid reasons that have nothing to do with unrealistic expectations.
I forget...does my car sit under my desk where I never see it?
I forget...does my house sit under my desk where I never see it?
All the most talented people I know use the best system they can manage to get because it increases their productivity. When people are waiting for your work, you want to work as efficiently as possible.
Only amateurs don't worry about productivity.