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Not everything is about max ram. There are people that need the performance of a powerful chip but don’t need 192GB of RAM.
The opposite is also true.
No chance of M5 Max doubling GPU cores either to at least match M3 Ultra gpu core count.
Yes, M5 Max guaranteed to have fastest single CPU speed, but that will be probably the only edge against M3U
 
Fully specced (32/80/32 M3 Ultra; 512GB; 16TBSSD) is now $14,099. I don’t know if that’s competitive in the high-spec space, but pksv’s comment, above, suggests that it is.

Not only competitive, but crushingly so. NVIDIA faces some real headwinds now; they seem unable to eke out any performance improvements, and have also reached the limit of what fire marshals and insurers will allow.
 
M4 adds support for hardware 8K H264/HEVC encode, while M3 can only do 8K decode. How relevant that is to you, I don't know.
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You didn't even bother to read the specs before you started complaining here.
Same media engines as M4 Max but double the amount.
 
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Im in the market for a new computer. I want to replace my M1 Max MacBook Pro 16 and move to a computer setup.

I was ready to pull the trigger and waiting for a M4 Max Studio. The only thing holding me back now is the Studio Display - a TB5 Studio connecting to a TB3 display? I want TB5, or even USB4 ports on the rear of the display for daisy chaining too.......
 
Going back? That was never a thing. Never, Apple has never updated all of their Macintosh computers at the same time.
They have always been on completely different upgrade paths, and the desktops have always been the computers to get updated the least.
For example, the first generation MacPro was announced in August 2006. The second generation was announced in January 2008.
Other than a specification bump in April 2007, that computer wasn’t touched for a year and a half.
Meanwhile, the MacBook Pro and iMac weren’t just updated in that space of time, but we’re updated… twice.
Judging by this and previous comments you clearly have no knowledge of Apple’s history. I have no desire to debate with you anymore. Please go away.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the M3 Ultra is priced almost as if it were an M4 Ultra?

The M3 Ultra is based on 2023 tech offered at 2025 prices, and these RAM and SSD storage prices are out of this world. Even with 10% discounts in the Apple refurbished store, these are still way too high prices for what they are offering.

I find Apple's prices on memory for the Studio/Pro far more reasonable than the Mini, etc. The new Studio's RAM pricing is <$10/GB (previously $12.50/GB). Not great by consumer standards but not unusual for vendor pricing (where a 100% markup over retail is not unusual) especially considering this is for a workstation/server. And as compared to VRAM pricing it is more than competitive (of course some people just need RAM not VRAM and appreciate this is small consolation for them).

It would be less frustrating if we had the option of 3rd-party memory. I guess we'll have to see if on-package memory is the future or just an Apple thing.
 
Judging by this and previous comments you clearly have no knowledge of Apple’s history. I have no desire to debate with you anymore. Please go away.
You literally just said you wish Apple would update every Mac on the same day, something they have never done before.
Who doesn’t know about Apple’s history again?
 
Just because the most basic version of M3 came out in 2023 does absolutely not mean that the M3 ultra is 2023 tech.
To start with it has thunderbolt 5.
As far as I can tell, thunderbolt 5 was not a shipping protocol in 2023.
So already your thought process that “ it has the number three in it so it must be from 2023” is wrong.
But…but…specs, M3 less than M4, M3 bad, M4 good is going to be the refrain for this entire thread. The Mac Stufdio prices have remained the same, the upgrade prices have not changed, there are new upgrades to 16TB SSD and 512GB of DRAM and the usual suspects act shocked at the prices that Apple charges and make the same silly complaints and statements like the pricing is suddenly something they’ve never seen before when it’s been this was since the the M1 Studio was released, sans the new top end SSD and DRAM BTO options.

People here are getting all up in their feelings over a chip in a niche computer that most don’t need and will never buy. Rinse lather repeat every time Apple updates their computers.
 
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They show going from 36G to 48G as a $200 upgrade. Unfortunately this requires a CPU upgrade which makes 12G cost $500 instead. Not fair!

Yeah, this is complete garbage on their part. 12GB more RAM and two more cores for 25% more price.
 
I've been waiting too long for this... and what a letdown!
The spec I want/amount to spend on is just over £6000.
That's just too much money for a an M3 chip, and a pathetic (upgraded) 2Gb SSD drive and will again have the nightmare of trying to sell it on within a couple of years and lose a ton of money in the process.
Going to stay with my PC's now and hope my 5090 place in the pre-order queue comes soon - and I should be able to sell my 4090 for more than I paid for them over 2 years ago.
Sorry Apple, you just can't keep up for the power/business user and your storage price sucks.
I just bought x2 very fast 8TB M.2 drives to go into my PC motherboard and each one cost less than an upgrade from 2TB to 4TB upgrade on the Studio.
 
But…but…specs, M3 less than M4, M3 bad, M4 good is going to be the refrain for this entire thread. The Mac Stufdio prices have remained the same, the upgrade prices have not changed, there are new upgrades to 16TB SSD and 512GB of DRAM and the usual suspects act shocked at the prices that Apple charges and make the same silly complaints and statements like the pricing is suddenly something they’ve never seen before when it’s been this was since the the M1 Studio was released, sans the new top end SSD and DRAM BTO options.

People here are getting all up in their feelings over a chip in a niche computer that most don’t need and will never buy. Rinse lather repeat every time Apple updates their computers.
People get all up in their feelings about everything Apple.
I’ve already seen someone complained that Apple dropped both the M2 and M3 MacBook Airs… Despite the new M4 replacing both and at the lower price point.
They were literally complaining because… You get more value for your money? I guess?
But if Apple kept the M3 around, they would be mad for the exact opposite reason.
 
Heaven forbid they include a few useful ports to make things nicer for the user.... on a desktop computer where space for ports is really not a big issue.
So as a user who has all USB-C devices, how is that nice for me? Do you also still want ADB and SCSI on your Mac?

This nonsense needs to stop. There is not a single reason to keep USB-A around. USB-C was made mandatory in the EU on mobile devices and as much as I hate their mandates, maybe it’s time to enforce this on all devices because it’s getting ridiculous.
 
nice machine - I'll get the M5 version next year (still fine with my M3 Max MBookPro)
 
How can Apple screw up a desktop so much. Ever since the 2013 trash can Apple is just messing up. It’s not that complicated.

Very disappointed this is an M3 Ultra. It’s a bit too late for an update to M3. Just goes Apple cares nothing about any high end product.
as long as you do not need single core performance the M3 should actually be fine - the price jump to the M3-Ultra versions seems justified
 
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So as a user who has all USB-C devices, how is that nice for me? Do you also still want ADB and SCSI on your Mac?

This nonsense needs to stop. There is not a single reason to keep USB-A around. USB-C was made mandatory in the EU on mobile devices and as much as I hate their mandates, maybe it’s time to enforce this on all devices because it’s getting ridiculous.
Keyboards and mice are still coming with USB-A. That is why I want these ports around and why I preferred the Mac mini (no longer the case) and Mac Studio.
 
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