And let's put that in perspective too -- the M3 is no slouch when it comes to single core performance. The M4 is of course 20% faster than the M3 but the M3 is >10% faster than an M2, all of which are faster than the fastest computers from a few a years prior. Even on single core applications, M3 Ultra buyers will not be suffering. If someone only needs to run single core applications, the M3 Ultra will not be cost efficient but it's not like the system is going to lag.
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Apple Announces New Mac Studio With M4 Max and M3 Ultra Chips, Thunderbolt 5, and More
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And let's put that in perspective too -- the M3 is no slouch when it comes to single core performance. The M4 is of course 20% faster than the M3 but the M3 is >10% faster than an M2, all of which are faster than the fastest computers from a few a years prior. Even on single core applications, M3 Ultra buyers will not be suffering. If someone only needs to run single core applications, the M3 Ultra will not be cost efficient but it's not like the system is going to lag.
He could follow his own advice and buy an adapter.
This.
AMD is trying a similar trick with the Strix Halo though, Apple won't be alone for long in this game.
only situation where I would love faster single-core is X86/64 emulation via UTM/QEMU - otherwise all Ms from 1 to 4 are more than fast enough
Correct. If you're into powerful local AI this thing is a game changer.
What? Oh geez 🙄. So instead of putting current technology into a flagship product, they rather pocket the few bucks for the upgrade for themselves.
I’m also still on the M1 Max and have been looking forward to this upgrade but the more I learn about it, the more it doesn’t sound like I’m getting my money’s worth.
Damn it why do I underestimate Mark Gurman so much???
Still what a confusing line up with the pro desktop Macs now? Mac Pro stuck with M2, Mac Studio with M4 Max and M3 Ultra.. and you know the M5 Max will challenge that chips performance in a laptop…
Gurman was right, but it makes NO sense to me?
Still what a confusing line up with the pro desktop Macs now? Mac Pro stuck with M2, Mac Studio with M4 Max and M3 Ultra.. and you know the M5 Max will challenge that chips performance in a laptop…
Gurman was right, but it makes NO sense to me?
Lmao. Yeah, I’m the only one.
Again, you had a decade to upgrade your devices and you still want old garbage ports. Takes a bit self-reflection.
Haha Nvidia will be taking note no doubt, for sure a single high spec computer built for AI is an insane cost these days, and usually water cooled too adding to maintenance. Apple has certainly shaken the market up here.
I just recently upgraded my M4 mini from 256gb to 2TB for the reasonable price of $200 thanks to Aliexpress. Hopefully someone does this to the Studio soon! The base M4 Max Studio should come with 1TB standard and the M3 Ultra model 2TB minimum.
I agree, I wanted a new Mac and for it to last me, I wanted the Studio but did not want to buy the M2, so instead of waiting until who knew when for an upgraded Studio I got an M3 Max MacBook Pro last year.
Springing for the higher end model that costs double gets you a 1 generation older chip. Weird.
I know this is an Apple website, but out of curiosity, how much would it cost to build a PC with 16TB of storage, 512GB of RAM and the best processors and GPUs on the market? How much would you save compared to a $20K Mac Studio and how much better would it be?
Why use new chips when you can charge top dollar for your old chips. Apples know people will still buy it, might as well clear out the warehouse of old chips.
So is this M3 Ultra essentially an M3 Max X2 enhanced with M4 decoders and Thunderbolt 5 compatibility?
Those are significant improvements. While I don't think that the M3 Ultra will be twice as fast as an M4 Max, what are we looking at? 1.5x? 1.7x, with the capacity of up to 512 GB RAM?
While not the best marketing look (hence the press release, no video), it is still a compelling chip with a use case.
Those are significant improvements. While I don't think that the M3 Ultra will be twice as fast as an M4 Max, what are we looking at? 1.5x? 1.7x, with the capacity of up to 512 GB RAM?
While not the best marketing look (hence the press release, no video), it is still a compelling chip with a use case.
I cant speak on the RAM as per my knowledge MSI's latest Motherboard peaks at 256GB of RAM.
If you have multiple SSD PCI slots, Sabrent's 8TB SSD is $1,000. 2x8TBs would be $2,000.
Add $2,500 for the RTX 5090.
For reference my
- i9-13900KF
- Gigabyte Nvidia RTX 4090
- MSI Z790 Carbon Wi-Fi
- 192 GB RAM
- 2TB SSD
was around $7,400
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Springing for the higher end model that costs double gets you a 1 generation older chip with double the cores and the option for 4x the RAM. If you don't need the cores or the RAM, the M4 Max is the better choice.
There was a while there where the choices were a Mac Mini M4/Pro or paying more for a Studio with a 2 generation older chip, and I am sure some people still went with the Studio. Their needs were niche but needs generally become more and more niche as you go higher-end.
As astutely pointed out by another user above
You've solved the issue for yourself already!
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There's always someone waiting to upgrade. Why people complain about something they have no intention of buying baffles me.